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From: Mark Nash
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
As much as I can feel for you Sam, put yourself
: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Mark, you seem to think that what I'm advocating is a 'dream' or some kind of
old fashioned fantasy. To correct your mistake here, I must point out that the
system you seem to want to continue has brought this nation to the brink of
bankrtuptcy
, July 21, 2011 6:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
In support of your points
On the news the other day, they pointed out a dituation where the city of
Wash DC is having the cops harrass the Bicycle Taxis, and got Politions on
the record
, 2011 8:01 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once
can I say
I have been
*To:* fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA
General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that
allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing
internet access and other communication
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 14:32, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:
**
I think people are saying the government needs to stop helping everyone.
Some people are saying that, others are saying that the help needs to be
spread around a bit more fairly (for some value of fair).
David
on that as their only method of broadband access?
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
But the issue is not that we can't compete
+1
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:04 PM
To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that
allowed us (ISP's
] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is
falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I
perceive as the most serious threat to our industry to date.
Some of
you may
*To:* fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that
allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing
internet access and other communication services
*With all due respect, it's exactly
Mark, you seem to think that what I'm advocating is a 'dream' or some kind of
old fashioned fantasy. To correct your mistake here, I must point out that the
system you seem to want to continue has brought this nation to the brink of
bankrtuptcy, destroyed our industrial and scientific base,
...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *RickG
*Sent:* Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:04 PM
*To:* fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
** **
it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that
allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing
...@wispa.org; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I
perceive as the most serious threat to our industry
Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I
perceive as the most serious threat to our industry to date. Some of
you
, July 15, 2011 6:03 AM
To:memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I
forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 3:19 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
I'm sorry I guess I missed you at the Legislative Committee list when I
was putting this together sending out drafts and asking
General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that
allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing
internet access and other communication services
With all due respect, it's exactly the mindset that government allows
Well, yeah, necessarily. Where I lived the service got worse.
On 7/16/2011 10:08 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 7/16/2011 09:41 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
I also noticed that the breakup of Ma Bell degraded service in many
areas. A monopoly by market demand is not necessarily bad. A
monopoly by
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From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net
mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point
Listwireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once
can I say
I have been able to pick out a proposed specific
At 7/17/2011 07:22 AM, Scott Reed wrote:
Well, yeah, necessarily. Where I lived the service got worse.
I presume you mean that ironically, as a sample of one does not
indicate a general case.
Service got considerably better for my employer at the time, where I
worked in
@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once
can I say
I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action or a
plan of
action from you
] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not
once can I say
I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action or
a plan of
action from you
My friend you and I can
At 7/17/2011 08:30 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
No policy that I'm aware of prevented anyone from being an ISP. It
was a cost issue.
Before 1996, there was open entry into the ISP market under Computer
II/III, but that was largely limited to dial-up, leased lines, and
telco transport services
Thanks for the history lesson, Fred! I'm glad I pointed you this way
from the replacement ISP-CLEC.
These regulations certainly spurred the ecosystems that enable us to
deploy cost effectively today.
I've never been a fan of using someone else's network without a
long-term agreement (IRU,
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once can I say
I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action or a plan of
action from
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not
once can I say
I have been able to pick out a proposed
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not
once can I say
I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action
or a plan
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From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net
mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
At 7/17/2011 01:44 PM, RickG wrote:
So it wasnt the 1996 Telecom Act that allowed us (ISP's) to be able
to go into the business of providing
internet access and other communication services
It didn't allow entry into the internet business per se.
It allowed entry into the DSL business.
It
Bingo! It had nothing to do with the wireless business.
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote:
At 7/17/2011 01:44 PM, RickG wrote:
So it wasnt the 1996 Telecom Act that allowed us (ISP's) to be able
to go into the business of providing
internet access and
Well, it allows for VoIP, which we should all be doing to help our
bottom lines.
it also helps many WISPs obtain their connection to the net, but they
should be doing something Bell-less anyway.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 7/17/2011 2:50 PM,
Yes may be true .. but I think it would be naive this think so..
The evolution of the telecom and internet, I believe are inter-related,
think of it this way.. if there was no internet, then why would folks
need your wireless connection ?
Least we forget before the internet, there were the BBS
no body was scrambling to build private networks to connect to them
But those were early days. If left alone, we may have had something more
advanced and even better. At the very least, we wouldn't be in the mess
we're in now. ;)
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net
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From: Forbes Mercyforbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:03 AM
To:memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I
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From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen
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From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation
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From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once can I
@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I
perceive as the most serious threat to our industry to date. Some of
you may
, July 15, 2011 6:03 AM
To:memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I
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From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody
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From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr
: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once
can I say
I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action or a
plan of
action from you
My friend
At 7/16/2011 09:41 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
I also noticed that the breakup of Ma Bell degraded service in many
areas. A monopoly by market demand is not necessarily bad. A
monopoly by regulation is bad.
Well, not necessarily. Ma Bell's service was never consistent before
the breakup, but
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once can I say
I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action or a plan of
action from
On 7/15/2011 9:03 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
Forbes Mercy
WISPA VP/Legislative Chair
Just to give you an idea of what you're up against, the #1 provider of
lobbying money and political donations to congress is the healthcare
industry. They are followed by the telecom industry.
--Curtis Maurand
And that's not regulation, that's bribery and corruption! Maybe we need to
regulate the regualtors?!?!
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Curtis Maurand cmaur...@xyonet.comwrote:
On 7/15/2011 9:03 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
Forbes Mercy
WISPA VP/Legislative Chair
Just to give you an idea of
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I
perceive as the most serious threat to our industry to date. Some of
you may complain that the FCC is an overreaching intruder into our
] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 9:04 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I
List
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I
perceive as the most serious threat to our industry to date. Some of
you may complain
...@wabroadband.com
To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 9:03 AM
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
It should be noted that the today that we face is not neceesarilly an
indication of a bad thing. It was just a fork in the road, and the big
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From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:03 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never
Subject: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
TO WISP's
I'm not much of an alarmist and I would never claim the sky is falling
unless I had positive proof. Right now WISPA is faced with what I
perceive as the most serious threat to our industry to date. Some of
you may complain
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From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Errr... and your point is ?
Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails
...@muddyfrogwater.us
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 12:59 AM
A plan of action? If I said this is what WISPA should do and laid it
out in detail, all you'd do is say who are you? Why should we hacve
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