Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-25 Thread Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) 
Nope.  Needs a new radio.

marlon


-Original Message- 
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 5:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

Does the signal come back if you just reboot the radio?

On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:06, "Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)" 
 wrote:

> Interesting.  I wonder what we're doing differently.
>
> Replacing the card will get that 10 to 20dB of lost signal back 100% of 
> the
> time.
>
> We spot the bad ones when there is a 10 to 20 dB difference between tx and
> rx signal levels showing in the registration (or other) window.
>
> marlon
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Scott Reed
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:17 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?
>
> Grounding or water ingress.
> We have 100s of XR cards, both 900Mhxz, 2ghz and 5ghz in the air.  I
> can't remember the last time we replaced a failed XR card that was
> actually bad that was not for water in the cable.
>
> On 10/17/2013 11:48 AM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) wrote:
>> I see that a lot on the XR cards after storms in my area.  Might be bad 
>> TX
>> output or bad RX input numbers.  I've changed a lot of cards this year
>> because of a similar issue to yours.
>> marlon
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Paolo Di Francesco
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:54 AM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?
>>
>> dear all
>>
>> lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:
>>
>> 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
>> 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not
>> working)
>>
>> Is that happening to you too?
>>
>> Regards
>
> -- 
> Scott Reed
> Owner
> NewWays Networking, LLC
> Wireless Networking
> Network Design, Installation and Administration
> Mikrotik Advanced Certified
> www.nwwnet.net
> (765) 855-1060  (765) 439-4253  Toll-free (855) 231-6239
>
>
> ___
> Wireless mailing list
> Wireless@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>
> ___
> Wireless mailing list
> Wireless@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless 

___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-18 Thread Matt Hoppes 
Does the signal come back if you just reboot the radio?

On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:06, "Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)" 
 wrote:

> Interesting.  I wonder what we're doing differently.
> 
> Replacing the card will get that 10 to 20dB of lost signal back 100% of the 
> time.
> 
> We spot the bad ones when there is a 10 to 20 dB difference between tx and 
> rx signal levels showing in the registration (or other) window.
> 
> marlon
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Scott Reed
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:17 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?
> 
> Grounding or water ingress.
> We have 100s of XR cards, both 900Mhxz, 2ghz and 5ghz in the air.  I
> can't remember the last time we replaced a failed XR card that was
> actually bad that was not for water in the cable.
> 
> On 10/17/2013 11:48 AM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) wrote:
>> I see that a lot on the XR cards after storms in my area.  Might be bad TX
>> output or bad RX input numbers.  I've changed a lot of cards this year
>> because of a similar issue to yours.
>> marlon
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paolo Di Francesco
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:54 AM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?
>> 
>> dear all
>> 
>> lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:
>> 
>> 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
>> 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not
>> working)
>> 
>> Is that happening to you too?
>> 
>> Regards
> 
> -- 
> Scott Reed
> Owner
> NewWays Networking, LLC
> Wireless Networking
> Network Design, Installation and Administration
> Mikrotik Advanced Certified
> www.nwwnet.net
> (765) 855-1060  (765) 439-4253  Toll-free (855) 231-6239
> 
> 
> ___
> Wireless mailing list
> Wireless@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless 
> 
> ___
> Wireless mailing list
> Wireless@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-18 Thread Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) 
Interesting.  I wonder what we're doing differently.

Replacing the card will get that 10 to 20dB of lost signal back 100% of the 
time.

We spot the bad ones when there is a 10 to 20 dB difference between tx and 
rx signal levels showing in the registration (or other) window.

marlon


-Original Message- 
From: Scott Reed
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

Grounding or water ingress.
We have 100s of XR cards, both 900Mhxz, 2ghz and 5ghz in the air.  I
can't remember the last time we replaced a failed XR card that was
actually bad that was not for water in the cable.

On 10/17/2013 11:48 AM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) wrote:
> I see that a lot on the XR cards after storms in my area.  Might be bad TX
> output or bad RX input numbers.  I've changed a lot of cards this year
> because of a similar issue to yours.
> marlon
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paolo Di Francesco
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:54 AM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?
>
> dear all
>
> lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:
>
> 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
> 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not
> working)
>
> Is that happening to you too?
>
> Regards
>

-- 
Scott Reed
Owner
NewWays Networking, LLC
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
Mikrotik Advanced Certified
www.nwwnet.net
(765) 855-1060  (765) 439-4253  Toll-free (855) 231-6239


___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless 

___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-18 Thread Scott Reed 
Grounding or water ingress.
We have 100s of XR cards, both 900Mhxz, 2ghz and 5ghz in the air.  I 
can't remember the last time we replaced a failed XR card that was 
actually bad that was not for water in the cable.

On 10/17/2013 11:48 AM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) wrote:
> I see that a lot on the XR cards after storms in my area.  Might be bad TX
> output or bad RX input numbers.  I've changed a lot of cards this year
> because of a similar issue to yours.
> marlon
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paolo Di Francesco
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:54 AM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?
>
> dear all
>
> lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:
>
> 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
> 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not
> working)
>
> Is that happening to you too?
>
> Regards
>

-- 
Scott Reed
Owner
NewWays Networking, LLC
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
Mikrotik Advanced Certified
www.nwwnet.net
(765) 855-1060  (765) 439-4253  Toll-free (855) 231-6239


___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-17 Thread Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) 
I see that a lot on the XR cards after storms in my area.  Might be bad TX 
output or bad RX input numbers.  I've changed a lot of cards this year 
because of a similar issue to yours.
marlon


-Original Message- 
From: Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:54 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

dear all

lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:

1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not
working)

Is that happening to you too?

Regards

-- 


Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072
assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
web: http://www.level7.it



___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless 

___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-16 Thread Blair Davis 
I've seen this issue with xr-2 mPCI cards,  f.20 mPCI cards and others.  
Don't really think it is a UBNT only issue.

I think it is just one of the failure modes of the Atheros chipset.

--


On 10/16/2013 3:00 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:
> Hi Jason
>
> well it looks like Ubiquiti is failing again. Our first surprise was the
> cable around 1-2 year ago (we had to replace something like 20 reels of
> cable) and now we have to replace units.
>
> As far as I know there is no mailing list to read something like "yes we
> have a problem on these units do not install them" but if you are aware
> please send me the right pointer. It would save us a lot of money just
> checking the serial numbers instaed of doing the installation twice (or
> 3-4-5-6 times).
>
> Now we have to monitor which unit is failing which is not, then
> reorganize the logistics with the customer, stay at the phone with the
> customer to explain that have to fix a failing unit (the custoer will
> think we are taking excuse for some reason) and then finally go there
> and HOPE that the new unit is not broken
>
> Now, I hope mikrotik will release new products and we will see if it's
> time to switch to mikrotik.
>
> Regards
> Paolo
>
>> Do a little searching on the UBNT forums. There were a few batches of
>> the AirGrid HP's that had this issue. I installed about ten of them. I
>> then replaced 10 of them with grid/bullets and scrapped them.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:55 PM, Paolo Di Francesco
>>  wrote:
>> dear all
>>
>> lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:
>>
>> 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
>> 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not
>> working)
>>
>> Is that happening to you too?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
>>
>> Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
>>
>> Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
>>
>> C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
>> Fax : +39-091-8772072
>> assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
>> web: http://www.level7.it 
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Wireless mailing list
>> Wireless@wispa.org 
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>
>>
>

-- 
West Michigan Wireless ISP
Allegan, Michigan  49010
269-686-8648

A Division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC

___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-16 Thread Paolo Di Francesco 
Hi Jason

well it looks like Ubiquiti is failing again. Our first surprise was the 
cable around 1-2 year ago (we had to replace something like 20 reels of 
cable) and now we have to replace units.

As far as I know there is no mailing list to read something like "yes we 
have a problem on these units do not install them" but if you are aware 
please send me the right pointer. It would save us a lot of money just 
checking the serial numbers instaed of doing the installation twice (or 
3-4-5-6 times).

Now we have to monitor which unit is failing which is not, then 
reorganize the logistics with the customer, stay at the phone with the 
customer to explain that have to fix a failing unit (the custoer will 
think we are taking excuse for some reason) and then finally go there 
and HOPE that the new unit is not broken

Now, I hope mikrotik will release new products and we will see if it's 
time to switch to mikrotik.

Regards
Paolo

> Do a little searching on the UBNT forums. There were a few batches of
> the AirGrid HP's that had this issue. I installed about ten of them. I
> then replaced 10 of them with grid/bullets and scrapped them.
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:55 PM, Paolo Di Francesco
>  wrote:
> dear all
>
> lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:
>
> 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
> 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not
> working)
>
> Is that happening to you too?
>
> Regards
>
> --
>
>
> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
>
> Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
>
> Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
>
> C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
> Fax : +39-091-8772072
> assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
> web: http://www.level7.it 
>
>
>
> ___
> Wireless mailing list
> Wireless@wispa.org 
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>
>


-- 


Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072
assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
web: http://www.level7.it



___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-15 Thread Paolo Di Francesco 
on both sides we have ubiquiti

we have various scenarios: ptp or ptmp

example1: airgridm5 connected to rocketM5 access point, we saw that it 
went down 10db

example2: airgridm5 not even connecting to the rocket (smoked radio? but 
it was new out of the box), on the same customers we put a mikrotik and 
it's working nicely

example3: airgridm5 (smoked radio? but it was new out of the box) not 
even connecting to the rocket  on the same customers we put a mikrotik 
and it's working nicely. Or we have only TX or RX on the airgrid


example 4: point-to-point grid on one side and nanobridge on the other 
side. Still not RX or TX

Does it sound familiar?


> Are these PTP, or connected to one particular AP?  What type of AP?
>
>
> On 10/15/2013 11:54 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:
>> dear all
>>
>> lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:
>>
>> 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
>> 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not
>> working)
>>
>> Is that happening to you too?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>


-- 


Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072
assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
web: http://www.level7.it



___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-15 Thread Jason Bailey 
Do a little searching on the UBNT forums. There were a few batches of the 
AirGrid HP's that had this issue. I installed about ten of them. I then 
replaced 10 of them with grid/bullets and scrapped them.



On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:55 PM, Paolo Di Francesco 
 wrote:
 
dear all

lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:

1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not 
working)

Is that happening to you too?

Regards

-- 


Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072
assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
web: http://www.level7.it



___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-15 Thread Randy Cosby 
Are these PTP, or connected to one particular AP?  What type of AP?


On 10/15/2013 11:54 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:
> dear all
>
> lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:
>
> 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
> 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not
> working)
>
> Is that happening to you too?
>
> Regards
>

-- 
Randy Cosby
InfoWest, Inc
435-674-0165 x 2010

___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

[WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-15 Thread Paolo Di Francesco 
dear all

lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:

1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not 
working)

Is that happening to you too?

Regards

-- 


Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072
assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
web: http://www.level7.it



___
Wireless mailing list
Wireless@wispa.org
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless