Re: [WISPA] metal building install
Jim, (jeffco) you might think about a fabric cover, stretched over a frame. EG,the frabric 'radomes' on large paraboloids, 6-10'. Not so much inuse today. They are almost bullet-proof, can be made to look likealmost anything - synthetic, and light weight. Wind loading willbe an issue. Not to mention installation. We employed this tech. in a similar situation, albeit many yearsago. to extend a penthouse vertically 15'. From the groundyou couldn't tell the difference. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)270-2410 e-mail: rwall...@newgenet.net rwall...@tigernet.bz -Original Message- From: Jim Patient [mailto:sa...@jeffcosoho.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 04:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/--- - WISPA Wireless List: wirel...@wispa.orgsubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
It being stainless steel wall, makes me think of all kinds of nice freq. reflections? I know I have trouble with all freq. shooting across or tops of steel roofing. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:04:57 -0700 I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] metal building install
We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
Assuming you can find paint that doesn't have metal in it that will distort signal. Maybe a gray non-metallic paint would work. Or find a vendor with gray radomes. 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.4/1880 - Release Date: 1/7/2009 8:49 AM -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
It's a brand new building not even completed. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
I've been testing some paint with the ol business card microwave test as a last ditch effort but I don't know if they will go for that. Jim Scott Reed wrote: Assuming you can find paint that doesn't have metal in it that will distort signal. Maybe a gray non-metallic paint would work. Or find a vendor with gray radomes. 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.4/1880 - Release Date: 1/7/2009 8:49 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
Be real careful the paint is not metallic. You might want to spray something microwave safe and put it in the microwave oven to see if it gets hot or sparks for a test. You could end up losing a lot of db in the paint. Greg On Jan 7, 2009, at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
Sherwin Williams DTM (Direct to Metal) will not attenuate your signal Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:26:08 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I've been testing some paint with the ol business card microwave test as a last ditch effort but I don't know if they will go for that. Jim Scott Reed wrote: Assuming you can find paint that doesn't have metal in it that will distort signal. Maybe a gray non-metallic paint would work. Or find a vendor with gray radomes. 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.4/1880 - Release Date: 1/7/2009 8:49 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
I don't think I can get away with painted antennas on this one. I might have to get some custom covers made or something. I'm checking with couple sign makers to see if they can come up with something. This is a fancy new building with $$$ just in art around it and they want it to look good. I can't get on the roof. There are beacon lights mounted directly on top of the parrapit wall and nothing can be higher than the beacons. I've seen all kinds of palmtennas, rocktennas, bushtennas, etc. and just thought maybe someone had done something like this before. I was kind of hoping that someone would come back with Oh call Tom down at customdecorativeantennacovers.com ;-) Jim os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Be real careful the paint is not metallic. You might want to spray something microwave safe and put it in the microwave oven to see if it gets hot or sparks for a test. You could end up losing a lot of db in the paint. Greg On Jan 7, 2009, at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
What if you were to make some sort of box to fit over them out of plastic then cover it with Mylar mirroized film like on those chrome looking balloons or window tint? If that will be too reflective you might still consider painting a plastic box. I would not use a solid color however. You could wait until the building is finished then look at your mounting points from the ground and see the subtle differences in colors on the metal near those points and paint to match. Kind of like how they can paint something in a picture but it looks like chrome. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't think I can get away with painted antennas on this one. I might have to get some custom covers made or something. I'm checking with couple sign makers to see if they can come up with something. This is a fancy new building with $$$ just in art around it and they want it to look good. I can't get on the roof. There are beacon lights mounted directly on top of the parrapit wall and nothing can be higher than the beacons. I've seen all kinds of palmtennas, rocktennas, bushtennas, etc. and just thought maybe someone had done something like this before. I was kind of hoping that someone would come back with Oh call Tom down at customdecorativeantennacovers.com ;-) Jim os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Be real careful the paint is not metallic. You might want to spray something microwave safe and put it in the microwave oven to see if it gets hot or sparks for a test. You could end up losing a lot of db in the paint. Greg On Jan 7, 2009, at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
I saw a rooftop cell site install where they had cut rectangles out of the parapit sheetmetal and installed perforated plastic screens painted the same color as the wall. You could not see where the antennas were unless you were on the roof. Looked really good. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't think I can get away with painted antennas on this one. I might have to get some custom covers made or something. I'm checking with couple sign makers to see if they can come up with something. This is a fancy new building with $$$ just in art around it and they want it to look good. I can't get on the roof. There are beacon lights mounted directly on top of the parrapit wall and nothing can be higher than the beacons. I've seen all kinds of palmtennas, rocktennas, bushtennas, etc. and just thought maybe someone had done something like this before. I was kind of hoping that someone would come back with Oh call Tom down at customdecorativeantennacovers.com ;-) Jim os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Be real careful the paint is not metallic. You might want to spray something microwave safe and put it in the microwave oven to see if it gets hot or sparks for a test. You could end up losing a lot of db in the paint. Greg On Jan 7, 2009, at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
What kind of radios/antennas? I can make a slot antenna out of the same metal they use for the building. It would be invisible. But spendy... - Original Message - From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't think I can get away with painted antennas on this one. I might have to get some custom covers made or something. I'm checking with couple sign makers to see if they can come up with something. This is a fancy new building with $$$ just in art around it and they want it to look good. I can't get on the roof. There are beacon lights mounted directly on top of the parrapit wall and nothing can be higher than the beacons. I've seen all kinds of palmtennas, rocktennas, bushtennas, etc. and just thought maybe someone had done something like this before. I was kind of hoping that someone would come back with Oh call Tom down at customdecorativeantennacovers.com ;-) Jim os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Be real careful the paint is not metallic. You might want to spray something microwave safe and put it in the microwave oven to see if it gets hot or sparks for a test. You could end up losing a lot of db in the paint. Greg On Jan 7, 2009, at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
Mikrotik 5GHz Give me a call when you get time. I would like to talk to you about this. Jim cell: 314-565-6863 Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: What kind of radios/antennas? I can make a slot antenna out of the same metal they use for the building. It would be invisible. But spendy... - Original Message - From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't think I can get away with painted antennas on this one. I might have to get some custom covers made or something. I'm checking with couple sign makers to see if they can come up with something. This is a fancy new building with $$$ just in art around it and they want it to look good. I can't get on the roof. There are beacon lights mounted directly on top of the parrapit wall and nothing can be higher than the beacons. I've seen all kinds of palmtennas, rocktennas, bushtennas, etc. and just thought maybe someone had done something like this before. I was kind of hoping that someone would come back with Oh call Tom down at customdecorativeantennacovers.com ;-) Jim os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Be real careful the paint is not metallic. You might want to spray something microwave safe and put it in the microwave oven to see if it gets hot or sparks for a test. You could end up losing a lot of db in the paint. Greg On Jan 7, 2009, at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
Jim Seeing it's a brand new expensive building, you should talk to the architect and let him spec out what he wants to do on that building. George Jim Patient wrote: I don't think I can get away with painted antennas on this one. I might have to get some custom covers made or something. I'm checking with couple sign makers to see if they can come up with something. This is a fancy new building with $$$ just in art around it and they want it to look good. I can't get on the roof. There are beacon lights mounted directly on top of the parrapit wall and nothing can be higher than the beacons. I've seen all kinds of palmtennas, rocktennas, bushtennas, etc. and just thought maybe someone had done something like this before. I was kind of hoping that someone would come back with Oh call Tom down at customdecorativeantennacovers.com ;-) Jim os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Be real careful the paint is not metallic. You might want to spray something microwave safe and put it in the microwave oven to see if it gets hot or sparks for a test. You could end up losing a lot of db in the paint. Greg On Jan 7, 2009, at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
Just call the antennas art. George Rogato wrote: Jim Seeing it's a brand new expensive building, you should talk to the architect and let him spec out what he wants to do on that building. George Jim Patient wrote: I don't think I can get away with painted antennas on this one. I might have to get some custom covers made or something. I'm checking with couple sign makers to see if they can come up with something. This is a fancy new building with $$$ just in art around it and they want it to look good. I can't get on the roof. There are beacon lights mounted directly on top of the parrapit wall and nothing can be higher than the beacons. I've seen all kinds of palmtennas, rocktennas, bushtennas, etc. and just thought maybe someone had done something like this before. I was kind of hoping that someone would come back with "Oh call Tom down at customdecorativeantennacovers.com" ;-) Jim os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Be real careful the paint is not metallic. You might want to spray something microwave safe and put it in the microwave oven to see if it gets hot or sparks for a test. You could end up losing a lot of db in the paint. Greg On Jan 7, 2009, at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --
Re: [WISPA] metal building install
Hey Jim, I'd suggest seeing if you can stand those antennas off the metal a couple of wavelengths (maybe 4-6 wavelengths). You don't need any nasty reflections. Regarding the covers - maybe go with the art theme and suggest that the covers be painted to actually become art - maybe a contrasting metal like a brushed copper or a green copper patina... jack (the artist) Jim Patient wrote: I don't think I can get away with painted antennas on this one. I might have to get some custom covers made or something. I'm checking with couple sign makers to see if they can come up with something. This is a fancy new building with $$$ just in art around it and they want it to look good. I can't get on the roof. There are beacon lights mounted directly on top of the parrapit wall and nothing can be higher than the beacons. I've seen all kinds of palmtennas, rocktennas, bushtennas, etc. and just thought maybe someone had done something like this before. I was kind of hoping that someone would come back with "Oh call Tom down at customdecorativeantennacovers.com" ;-) Jim os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Be real careful the paint is not metallic. You might want to spray something microwave safe and put it in the microwave oven to see if it gets hot or sparks for a test. You could end up losing a lot of db in the paint. Greg On Jan 7, 2009, at 5:34 PM, 3-dB Networks wrote: I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super modern). The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after that I can't think of anything good. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] metal building install I don't have a picture handy. There isn't much to see though. It is just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. Jim 3-dB Networks wrote: Can you provide a picture of the building? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] metal building install We have a project to install 5GHz sectors on a large beautiful building that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides. The antennas must be installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides. They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible. Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage the antennas? There will be 3 sectors on each side. If anyone has done something like this and would care to share pictures, that would be great. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup
