Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-06 Thread Vyacheslav Vasilyev
s...@unidata.com.ua *Sent*: Sunday, September 05, 2010 3:50 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti 2010/9/5 Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev s...@unidata.com.ua wrote: What

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Vyacheslav Vasilyev
2010/9/5 Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev s...@unidata.com.ua wrote: Airmax was on or off? What were the single direction speeds for each? In all Rocket ptp link tests Airmax is off. Rocket -max simplex ( one direction) throughput

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Vyacheslav Vasilyev
We tested TDMA freebsd Sam Lefler MAC 802.11a implementation .at the simular platform ( Alix, CM9) . It also has poor throughput at small packet size ( but much better then standard 802,11a) and it is may be improved by using more powerfull h/w. Sorry freebsd8 tdma Sam 802.11a

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Jeromie Reeves
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev s...@unidata.com.ua wrote: 2010/9/5 Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev s...@unidata.com.ua wrote: Airmax was on or off? What were the single direction speeds for each? In all   Rocket

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 14:15 -0700, Forbes Mercy wrote: I keep adding filters as traffic presents itself but help and training is very expensive and extraordinarily technical While I would disagree that training is very expensive, I would have to agree that it is very technical in nature. My

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Vyacheslav Vasilyev
2010/9/5 Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev s...@unidata.com.ua wrote: What is a Rockets PPS with airmax on? Ubnt does not recomend to use Airmax On in ptp due to lower performance. We did not test it. Ubnt , MT and any other

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Scott Carullo
] mikrotik vs ubiquiti 2010/9/5 Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev s...@unidata.com.ua wrote: What is a Rockets PPS with airmax on? Ubnt does not recomend to use Airmax On in ptp due to lower performance. We did not test it. Ubnt , MT

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Greg Ihnen
...@unidata.com.ua Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 3:50 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti 2010/9/5 Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev s...@unidata.com.ua wrote: What is a Rockets PPS

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Robert West
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 6:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti I'm not sure your assessment of UBNT not recommending to use airmax on PTP as a general statement hold true. It is unlikely that they would have built

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Robert West
: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 14:15 -0700, Forbes Mercy wrote: I keep adding filters as traffic presents itself but help and training is very expensive and extraordinarily technical While I would disagree that training is very expensive, I would have to agree that it is very

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I did not mean to sound like i was saying anything bad about MT. Their NStream simply did not work for me and I did not have time to speed weeks working it out. I love my MT firewalls. I have two issues with the setup, once a month or two, DNS 'goes loopy' and I ahve to reboot the router. This

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Jeromie Reeves
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti We are already there. I am firmly locked into Ubnt airmax. I tried MT's NStream, it did not work well for me. I am

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Ralph
Yes we are using Ubiquiti instead of Mikrotik. We always have, because we will not build our own uncertified gear. If it comes down to an interference issue we do not want the FCC fine or the stigma of being nailed for violating FCC rules. That said, we like the routerboards pretty well for use

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Travis Johnson
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti We are already there. I am firmly locked into Ubnt airmax. I tried MT's NStream

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Gino Villarini
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti We are already there. I am firmly locked into Ubnt airmax. I tried MT's NStream, it did not work well for me. I am seeing enough 5ghz noise that I need airmax (or something like it). I was this close to going back to canopy only

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti We are already there. I am firmly locked into Ubnt airmax. I tried MT's NStream, it did not work well for me. I am seeing enough 5ghz noise that I need airmax (or something like it). I was this close to going back to canopy only

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Travis Johnson
To each their own... we use 100% MT on our backbone (over 70 production links, some up to 73 miles). We are fully routed (even on each wireless hop), so using MT works great because I don't have to have a separate router like if I used UBNT. I have full telnet, speed test, packet sniffing,

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Got to love this, a simple question about a comparison of 802.11n performance on the two platforms turns into a tirade of primary school 'pissing contest' ! No ONE is trying to dis any platform... and hopefully we all are mature enough to understand that ... Mikrotik is a great routing

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Josh Luthman
I like MT for APs but Ubnt for CPEs and ptp. On Sep 4, 2010 11:52 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Got to love this, a simple question about a comparison of 802.11n performance on the two platforms turns into a tirade of primary school 'pissing contest' ! No ONE is trying to dis

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Robert West
can tell! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti I think that several of you are using Ubiquiti AirMax

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Robert West
Be lucky you didn't throw Motorola in the mix.. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 11:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti Got

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Francois D. Menard
: Saturday, September 04, 2010 11:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti Got to love this, a simple question about a comparison of 802.11n performance on the two platforms turns into a tirade of primary school 'pissing contest' ! No ONE is trying to dis any

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Vyacheslav Vasilyev
We have tested RB 411AH, (AR7161 680MHz, RAM 64 MB), miniPCI R52Hn (AR9220 802.11n, OS Mikrotik v.4.6 and UNBT Rocket M5 (Atheros MIPS 24KC, 400MHz) 1) LAB tests (connection via coax cable with attenuators) -max duplex throughput (iperf udp, 1470 bytes payload ) in 20 MHz channel

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Jeromie Reeves
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev s...@unidata.com.ua wrote: We have tested   RB 411AH, (AR7161 680MHz, RAM 64 MB), miniPCI R52Hn (AR9220 802.11n, OS Mikrotik v.4.6 and  UNBT Rocket M5 (Atheros MIPS 24KC, 400MHz) 1) LAB tests (connection via coax cable with attenuators)

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-04 Thread Scott Carullo
Subject: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti We have tested RB 411AH, (AR7161 680MHz, RAM 64 MB), miniPCI R52Hn (AR9220 802.11n, OS Mikrotik v.4.6 and UNBT Rocket M5 (Atheros MIPS 24KC, 400MHz) 1) LAB tests (connection via coax cable with attenuators) -max duplex throughput (iperf udp, 1470

[WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Data Technology
I think that several of you are using Ubiquiti AirMax Rocket now instead of Mikrotik. I would like to know how they compare: 1. As a point to point link. 2. As an access point. Right now I only use Mikrotik for links and AP's and I use Ubiquiti for cpe. I am ready to install

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
We have not used Mikrotik for wireless, but are using UBNT for Radios Mikrotik for routing ... While your concerns are valid, we have not seen anything that would cause us to rethink our setup. Use good quality shielded outdoor rated cable, and Grounded Power supplies, with or without surge

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Randy Cosby
LaRoy, I'm waiting to see how Nstreme (TDMA) v2 compares on the Mikrotik. So far it looks very promising, and could give UBNT a run for the money. UBNT has the price advantage, but not as much configuration-ability nor can you choose to use cheap or high quality enclosures. Randy On

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Justin Mann
We have recently begun deploying the Rockets as backhauls to replace our older and less reliable StarOS links. Without exception, they have impressed us. It has only been a few months, and they have yet to experience winter, so the real test won't be for a while. From a pure reliability and

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 15:50 -0500, Data Technology wrote: I would like to know how they compare: 1. As a point to point link. 2. As an access point. This is one of the topics we will cover in my Training Before the MUM at the end of this month. What are you guys seeing in the real

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 15:08 -0600, Randy Cosby wrote: I'm waiting to see how Nstreme (TDMA) v2 compares on the Mikrotik. Another training topic. :-) In fact, if anyone who attends the MUM wants to do a direct comparison test, I'm game. --

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Forbes Mercy
I'll weigh in here, I have almost an equal mix of Ubiquiti and Mikrotik I'll detail each plus put a summary analogy for these and Motorola at the end of my email. One of the things that jumps out on me is how raw Mikrotik is, if you want to be able to write every filter, detail every part of

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Randy Cosby
We're running a few hundred customers on Mikrotik PTMP and use it for most of our backhauls. I really like the programability of the tiks, and we use the API's extensively. I just don't have problems and they outperform my expectations, but it does take a bit of a learning curve. Really

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Steve Barnes
What I wish is a standardized Linux TDMA mechanisim. Not airmax nor nstreame 2, a TDMA that you can use with a cross-vendor mix. Mikrotik is a (to me the only) router OS. Ubiquity is my major Wireless vendor, from CPE's to the XR2 that go in each Mikrotik AP. I really like Tranzeos as well

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Jeromie Reeves
We are already there. I am firmly locked into Ubnt airmax. I tried MT's NStream, it did not work well for me. I am seeing enough 5ghz noise that I need airmax (or something like it). I was this close to going back to canopy only because I knew that while slow, it would work. If moto had wised up

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Robert West
, September 03, 2010 10:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti We are already there. I am firmly locked into Ubnt airmax. I tried MT's NStream, it did not work well for me. I am seeing enough 5ghz noise that I need airmax (or something like it). I was this close to going

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread RickG
I have nothing bad to say about Mikrotik as my RB1000 firewall runs without complaint. I also have a tower in the forest running an RB433AH with an XR9 radio that I never hear from. LOL, that reminds me of an old saying, only I'll amend it some: If a radio in the forest fails, does anyone hear it?