RE: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments
Well, let me put it simply. The guy running this company is arrogant and not at all interested in helping his customers. I have plenty of correspondence to back that up with their company. Hardware that we used is nothing more than a standard rack server that is overpriced. We used to just buy the software licenses as well, but then they stopped selling that for anything over 10Mbps which pretty much rules out us using that. We finally decided after enough degrading comments from the owner to develop a solution in house using open source and custom code. It took about 2 weeks and we have a solution very similar that is tailored for our needs. No matter how may pro's anybody cares to stack up for their products the CON outweighs them all! Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments Wanted to get people's opinion of ETINC It's been some time since Dennis has publically flogged anyone ducking but curious about product performance / comparisons / pros / cons / etc -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments
Charles Wu wrote: Wanted to get people's opinion of ETINC It's been some time since Dennis has publically flogged anyone ducking but curious about product performance / comparisons / pros / cons / etc -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com I was wondering what happened to him. He was the one and only person to rise above Brett G in causing list discomfort. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments
Charles, We replaced our ETINC box with Mikrotik about 6 months ago. We are now able to do the bandwidth management closer to the customer (at each Mikrotik around the network) and were able to eliminate a point of failure on the network. Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: Wanted to get people's opinion of ETINC It's been some time since Dennis has publically flogged anyone ducking but curious about product performance / comparisons / pros / cons / etc -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments
Travis... Customer service issues aside, performance -- do you prefer the single ETINC or the multiple Mikrotiks? -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments Charles, We replaced our ETINC box with Mikrotik about 6 months ago. We are now able to do the bandwidth management closer to the customer (at each Mikrotik around the network) and were able to eliminate a point of failure on the network. Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: Wanted to get people's opinion of ETINC It's been some time since Dennis has publically flogged anyone ducking but curious about product performance / comparisons / pros / cons / etc -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments
Charles, Having a single point for management is easier... but having it spread out over multiple boxes means you don't have to have as much horsepower for the single box... The ETInc box worked great for us for almost 4 years... however, I would never go back (mainly due to customer service issues, overpriced hardware, etc). Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: Travis... Customer service issues aside, performance -- do you prefer the single ETINC or the multiple Mikrotiks? -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments Charles, We replaced our ETINC box with Mikrotik about 6 months ago. We are now able to do the bandwidth management closer to the customer (at each Mikrotik around the network) and were able to eliminate a point of failure on the network. Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: Wanted to get people's opinion of ETINC It's been some time since Dennis has publically flogged anyone ducking but curious about product performance / comparisons / pros / cons / etc -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments
ETINC works great but so do several other lower-cost options which do not include dealing with an abusive vendor. Are you going to buy him out Charles? :-) Scriv Charles Wu wrote: Wanted to get people's opinion of ETINC It's been some time since Dennis has publically flogged anyone ducking but curious about product performance / comparisons / pros / cons / etc -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments
What is ETINC? John Scrivner wrote: ETINC works great but so do several other lower-cost options which do not include dealing with an abusive vendor. Are you going to buy him out Charles? :-) Scriv Charles Wu wrote: Wanted to get people's opinion of ETINC It's been some time since Dennis has publically flogged anyone ducking but curious about product performance / comparisons / pros / cons / etc -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments
ETINC is the bandwdith manager that was made by the equivellent of the Soup Nazi (Seinfeld) of Bandwdith management appliances. I believe it runs on FREEBSD, and 5 years ago, it was considered the Best of Breed, preventing the need to buy expensive Packeteer devices ($10,000), and costing closer to $600. It was designed to so bandwdith management at a fixed location at the end of the line. However, today its a changing world, and lots more available, and not sure that it is still so special. But I'm not familiar enough with it to give a fair comparison. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments What is ETINC? John Scrivner wrote: ETINC works great but so do several other lower-cost options which do not include dealing with an abusive vendor. Are you going to buy him out Charles? :-) Scriv Charles Wu wrote: Wanted to get people's opinion of ETINC It's been some time since Dennis has publically flogged anyone ducking but curious about product performance / comparisons / pros / cons / etc -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
