RE: [WISPA] Lightning hits

2006-08-09 Thread Chad Halsted
I'm not 100% sure, but my first inclination would be no.  If lightning
hits your tower and the equipment/tower is not properly grounded with
surge suppression in place, it will get blown, whether it is powered up
or not.  Current is still going to flow through the radio; it just won't
make it out the Ethernet because you unplugged the line.

Chad

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I have a Canopy 900 that is getting taken out from static.  Until I can 
get the right solution in place to prevent this, I have a question.  If 
I unplug the power from the radio when a storm is coming will the radio 
survive?  It is still in the air, but there is no power to it.  I am 
trying to save the RF side.  Will it work.

Brian
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Re: [WISPA] Lightning hits

2006-08-09 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I am not worried about lightning strikes because I cannot stop that.  
Mostly the part where stuff catches on fire.


The problem seems to lie in the fact that I have an 11ft tall omni that 
is the second tallest thing on the tower and it sucks in static like a 
vaccum and takes out the RF side.  So would powering off save the RF 
until I figure out what can be done with the tower (grain leg)


Brian

Chad Halsted wrote:


I'm not 100% sure, but my first inclination would be no.  If lightning
hits your tower and the equipment/tower is not properly grounded with
surge suppression in place, it will get blown, whether it is powered up
or not.  Current is still going to flow through the radio; it just won't
make it out the Ethernet because you unplugged the line.

Chad

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Subject: [WISPA] Lightning hits

I have a Canopy 900 that is getting taken out from static.  Until I can 
get the right solution in place to prevent this, I have a question.  If 
I unplug the power from the radio when a storm is coming will the radio 
survive?  It is still in the air, but there is no power to it.  I am 
trying to save the RF side.  Will it work.


Brian
 


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RE: [WISPA] Lightning hits

2006-08-09 Thread Chad Halsted
I really don't think it's going to make a difference.  If it's pulling
in that much energy through the antenna, it's got to go somewhere, and
the only place it can go is through your pigtail strait to the radio.
If the radio isn't properly grounded to the tower, and the tower
properly grounded to well, the ground, something is going to get smoked.
I don't THINK it's going to matter much if the power is on or not.  

But hey, it's worth a shot.  It sure won't hurt to try.  

One of our 50' towers has a big ham yagi antenna on the top of it.  The
home owner said that his yagi was pulling in so much static he could
hear it arcing from across the room. It was arcing from the connector on
the end of the cable to a nail that was driven into a 2X4 stud.  There
wasn't a cloud in the sky at that time either.

That's some crazy stuff.

Good Luck!

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I am not worried about lightning strikes because I cannot stop that.  
Mostly the part where stuff catches on fire.

The problem seems to lie in the fact that I have an 11ft tall omni that 
is the second tallest thing on the tower and it sucks in static like a 
vaccum and takes out the RF side.  So would powering off save the RF 
until I figure out what can be done with the tower (grain leg)

Brian

Chad Halsted wrote:

I'm not 100% sure, but my first inclination would be no.  If lightning
hits your tower and the equipment/tower is not properly grounded with
surge suppression in place, it will get blown, whether it is powered up
or not.  Current is still going to flow through the radio; it just
won't
make it out the Ethernet because you unplugged the line.

Chad

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:32 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Lightning hits

I have a Canopy 900 that is getting taken out from static.  Until I can

get the right solution in place to prevent this, I have a question.  If

I unplug the power from the radio when a storm is coming will the radio

survive?  It is still in the air, but there is no power to it.  I am 
trying to save the RF side.  Will it work.

Brian
  

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Re: [WISPA] Lightning hits

2006-08-09 Thread Ron Wallace
Hey Brian,
You should have a lightning arrestor between the antenna and radio, well grounded to the tower, also an arrestor between the radio and your red barn, well grounded. That should protect the radio as well as can be. 

7/1/05, my tower was hit, I had all the arrestors in place, and well grounded. Of the 4 AP's on the tower one survived, but I have had good luck since.Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original Message-From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2006 11:32 AMTo: 'Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization'Subject: [WISPA] Lightning hitsI have a Canopy 900 that is getting taken out from static. Until I can get the right solution in place to prevent this, I have a question. If I unplug the power from the radio when a storm is coming will the radio survive? It is still in the air, but there is no power to it. I am trying to save the RF side. Will it work.Brian-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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