Re: [WISPA] Routing woes.....

2006-09-17 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

What is the Ethernet assignment on the edge router?  What is the
connection to the BR AP units?  Is it Ethernet or wireless?  I am
thinking it is Ethernet since the BR AP units seem to have their
radios in AP mode, but the BH designation on the one unit has me not
so sure of it.

My first comment is actually a question.  Why use bridging at all?
You have subnets assigned to all devices so routing would be a snap to
implement and you are more than half way there.  Bridging uses the IP
strictly for configuration.  It will figure out the connections based
on the ARP table, so in my mind you never really have routes in a
bridge design.  The two conflict.

For routing design just make sure to use subnets that are common for
each connected device.  That means that if you connect the edge unit
to the other units by Ethernet, they all share a unique subnet and
when you can ping the connected units you have the basis for a routed
backbone.

Once that is done and all backbone units are pingable on Ethernet I
would simply enable RIP and remove the bridge tags and you would be
solid for the rest of the LAN.

Just keep assigning new, unique subnets to all new devices and let RIP
take care of it.  All you will need is a default route on each new
device that points to the machine and IP it connects with.

By moving to routed and RIP you will find your current system is
simpler and easier and I'll bet it will have higher performance and it
will offer you more control and troubleshooting ability.

Lonnie

On 9/17/06, Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





I am trying to add a route to my existing network and I just can't get it to
work…

The network I can't get to work is to network 172.22.20.0/24, all others
work fine.



Edge router StarOS



0.0.0.0/0   216.229.xxx.xxxether1
   Wan

172.22.255.0/29 172.22.1.3 ether2
   Route to BR LAN

172.22.11.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
Route to BR AP1

172.22.12.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
Route to BR AP2

172.22.13.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
Route to BR AP3

172.22.22.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
Route to Atheros test

172.22.23.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
Route to Prism test

172.22.20.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
Route to Lenox BH ( does not work )



BR AP1 – StarOS, 2 wireless cards

Wpci1  172.22.11.1AP

Wpci2   172.22.1.3 BH

Ether1   172.22.255.1



0.0.0.0/0   172.22.1.1 wpci2

172.22.12.0/24   172.22.255.2 ether1
  Route to AP2

172.22.13.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
  Route to AP3

172.22.20.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
  Route to BH Lenox



BR AP2 – Mikrotik, 1 wireless card

Wpci1   172.22.12.1   AP

Ether1   172.22.355.2



0.0.0.0/0   172.22.255.1 ether1



BR AP3 – StarOS,  2 wireless cards

Wpci1   172.22.13.1

Wpci2   172.22.20.1

Ether1   172.22.255.3



0.0.0.0/24  172.22.255.1 ether1





Trace from machine on 172.22.1.0/24

C:\Documents and Settings\Administratortracert 172.22.20.1



Tracing route to 172.22.20.1 over a maximum of 30 hops



  11 ms1 ms1 ms  172.22.1.1

  2 1 ms 1 ms1 ms  172.22.1.3

  3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms  172.22.1.3

  4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms  172.22.1.1

  5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms  ^C



Even though I have a route pointing it to 1.3, it starts with 1.1 unlike all
the routes in the list.



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RE: [WISPA] Routing woes.....

2006-09-17 Thread Mark McElvy
The edge router is in my office connected to WAN and 172.22.1.0/24
There is a radio on the roof (bridge) feeding BR AP1 wireless (1.3)
The second wpci is an AP (1.12)
Ethernet connects BRAP1, BRAP2 and BRAP3 on 172.22.255.0/29
BRAP2 is an AP (12.1)
BRAP3 is an AP (13.1) and a BH to a new tower. 
The back haul link is 172.22.20.0/24

Everything is statically routed except for the bridge radio feeding the
tower.

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
Nationwide Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data! 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing woes.

What is the Ethernet assignment on the edge router?  What is the
connection to the BR AP units?  Is it Ethernet or wireless?  I am
thinking it is Ethernet since the BR AP units seem to have their
radios in AP mode, but the BH designation on the one unit has me not
so sure of it.

My first comment is actually a question.  Why use bridging at all?
You have subnets assigned to all devices so routing would be a snap to
implement and you are more than half way there.  Bridging uses the IP
strictly for configuration.  It will figure out the connections based
on the ARP table, so in my mind you never really have routes in a
bridge design.  The two conflict.

For routing design just make sure to use subnets that are common for
each connected device.  That means that if you connect the edge unit
to the other units by Ethernet, they all share a unique subnet and
when you can ping the connected units you have the basis for a routed
backbone.

Once that is done and all backbone units are pingable on Ethernet I
would simply enable RIP and remove the bridge tags and you would be
solid for the rest of the LAN.

Just keep assigning new, unique subnets to all new devices and let RIP
take care of it.  All you will need is a default route on each new
device that points to the machine and IP it connects with.

By moving to routed and RIP you will find your current system is
simpler and easier and I'll bet it will have higher performance and it
will offer you more control and troubleshooting ability.

Lonnie

On 9/17/06, Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I am trying to add a route to my existing network and I just can't get
it to
 work...

 The network I can't get to work is to network 172.22.20.0/24, all
others
 work fine.



 Edge router StarOS



 0.0.0.0/0   216.229.xxx.xxxether1
Wan

 172.22.255.0/29 172.22.1.3 ether2
Route to BR LAN

 172.22.11.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP1

 172.22.12.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP2

 172.22.13.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP3

 172.22.22.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
 Route to Atheros test

 172.22.23.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
 Route to Prism test

 172.22.20.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to Lenox BH ( does not work )



 BR AP1 - StarOS, 2 wireless cards

 Wpci1  172.22.11.1AP

 Wpci2   172.22.1.3 BH

 Ether1   172.22.255.1



 0.0.0.0/0   172.22.1.1 wpci2

 172.22.12.0/24   172.22.255.2 ether1
   Route to AP2

 172.22.13.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
   Route to AP3

 172.22.20.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
   Route to BH Lenox



 BR AP2 - Mikrotik, 1 wireless card

 Wpci1   172.22.12.1   AP

 Ether1   172.22.355.2



 0.0.0.0/0   172.22.255.1 ether1



 BR AP3 - StarOS,  2 wireless cards

 Wpci1   172.22.13.1

 Wpci2   172.22.20.1

 Ether1   172.22.255.3



 0.0.0.0/24  172.22.255.1 ether1





 Trace from machine on 172.22.1.0/24

 C:\Documents and Settings\Administratortracert 172.22.20.1



 Tracing route to 172.22.20.1 over a maximum of 30 hops



   11 ms1 ms1 ms  172.22.1.1

   2 1 ms 1 ms1 ms  172.22.1.3

   3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms  172.22.1.3

   4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms  172.22.1.1

   5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms  ^C



 Even though I have a route pointing it to 1.3, it starts with 1.1
unlike all
 the routes in the list.



 Mark


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RE: [WISPA] Routing woes.....

2006-09-17 Thread Mark McElvy








BR designates one of my towers which is
fed wirelessly via BRAP1, Ethernet interconnects the 3 devices at the tower.



Yes I meant 255.2, 355.2 was a typo in the
email only







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AccuBak Data
Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
Nationwide
Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data! 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006
9:11 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routing
woes.





As your Edge router has 172.22.1.1 on its
Ethernet port then shouldnt BR AP1 also have its 172.22.1.3 address on its
Ethernet port not wireless? If I was BR AP1 then I would be confused too ;)



And Im pretty sure that the Ethernet
address of BR AP2 isnt valid too. Did you mean 172.22.255.2 not 172.22.355.2?











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
 McElvy
Sent: 17 September 2006 14:28
To: WISPA
 General List
Subject: [WISPA] Routing woes.





I am trying to add a route to my existing network and I just
cant get it to work

The network I cant get to work is to network
172.22.20.0/24, all others work fine.



Edge router StarOS



0.0.0.0/0

216.229.xxx.xxx
ether1
Wan

172.22.255.0/29

172.22.1.3
ether2
Route to BR LAN

172.22.11.0/24
172.22.1.3
ether2
Route to BR AP1

172.22.12.0/24
172.22.1.3
ether2
Route to BR AP2

172.22.13.0/24
172.22.1.3
ether2
Route to BR AP3

172.22.22.0/24
172.22.1.9
ether2
Route to Atheros test

172.22.23.0/24
172.22.1.9
ether2
Route to Prism test

172.22.20.0/24
172.22.1.3
ether2
Route to Lenox BH ( does not work )



BR AP1  StarOS, 2 wireless cards

Wpci1
172.22.11.1 AP

Wpci2
172.22.1.3 BH

Ether1 172.22.255.1



0.0.0.0/0

172.22.1.1
wpci2

172.22.12.0/24
172.22.255.2
ether1
Route to AP2

172.22.13.0/24
172.22.255.3
ether1
Route to AP3

172.22.20.0/24
172.22.255.3
ether1
Route to BH Lenox



BR AP2  Mikrotik, 1 wireless card

Wpci1
172.22.12.1 AP

Ether1 172.22.355.2 



0.0.0.0/0
172.22.255.1
ether1



BR AP3  StarOS, 2 wireless cards

Wpci1 172.22.13.1

Wpci2 172.22.20.1

Ether1 172.22.255.3



0.0.0.0/24
172.22.255.1
ether1





Trace from machine on 172.22.1.0/24

C:\Documents and Settings\Administratortracert
172.22.20.1



Tracing route to 172.22.20.1 over a maximum of 30 hops



 1 1 ms 1 ms
1 ms 172.22.1.1

 2 1
ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.22.1.3

 3 1
ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.22.1.3

 4 2
ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.22.1.1

 5 2
ms 2 ms 2 ms ^C



Even though I have a route pointing it to 1.3, it starts
with 1.1 unlike all the routes in the list.



Mark




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Re: [WISPA] Routing woes.....

2006-09-17 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

The bridge feeding the BRAPx units can be a problem unless it is a
true bridge, meaning it cannot be a pseudo bridge doing proxy arp or
mac cloning.   What type of unit is that bridge?

Lonnie

On 9/17/06, Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The edge router is in my office connected to WAN and 172.22.1.0/24
There is a radio on the roof (bridge) feeding BR AP1 wireless (1.3)
The second wpci is an AP (1.12)
Ethernet connects BRAP1, BRAP2 and BRAP3 on 172.22.255.0/29
BRAP2 is an AP (12.1)
BRAP3 is an AP (13.1) and a BH to a new tower.
The back haul link is 172.22.20.0/24

Everything is statically routed except for the bridge radio feeding the
tower.

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
Nationwide Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing woes.

What is the Ethernet assignment on the edge router?  What is the
connection to the BR AP units?  Is it Ethernet or wireless?  I am
thinking it is Ethernet since the BR AP units seem to have their
radios in AP mode, but the BH designation on the one unit has me not
so sure of it.

My first comment is actually a question.  Why use bridging at all?
You have subnets assigned to all devices so routing would be a snap to
implement and you are more than half way there.  Bridging uses the IP
strictly for configuration.  It will figure out the connections based
on the ARP table, so in my mind you never really have routes in a
bridge design.  The two conflict.

For routing design just make sure to use subnets that are common for
each connected device.  That means that if you connect the edge unit
to the other units by Ethernet, they all share a unique subnet and
when you can ping the connected units you have the basis for a routed
backbone.

Once that is done and all backbone units are pingable on Ethernet I
would simply enable RIP and remove the bridge tags and you would be
solid for the rest of the LAN.

Just keep assigning new, unique subnets to all new devices and let RIP
take care of it.  All you will need is a default route on each new
device that points to the machine and IP it connects with.

By moving to routed and RIP you will find your current system is
simpler and easier and I'll bet it will have higher performance and it
will offer you more control and troubleshooting ability.

Lonnie

On 9/17/06, Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I am trying to add a route to my existing network and I just can't get
it to
 work...

 The network I can't get to work is to network 172.22.20.0/24, all
others
 work fine.



 Edge router StarOS



 0.0.0.0/0   216.229.xxx.xxxether1
Wan

 172.22.255.0/29 172.22.1.3 ether2
Route to BR LAN

 172.22.11.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP1

 172.22.12.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP2

 172.22.13.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP3

 172.22.22.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
 Route to Atheros test

 172.22.23.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
 Route to Prism test

 172.22.20.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to Lenox BH ( does not work )



 BR AP1 - StarOS, 2 wireless cards

 Wpci1  172.22.11.1AP

 Wpci2   172.22.1.3 BH

 Ether1   172.22.255.1



 0.0.0.0/0   172.22.1.1 wpci2

 172.22.12.0/24   172.22.255.2 ether1
   Route to AP2

 172.22.13.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
   Route to AP3

 172.22.20.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
   Route to BH Lenox



 BR AP2 - Mikrotik, 1 wireless card

 Wpci1   172.22.12.1   AP

 Ether1   172.22.355.2



 0.0.0.0/0   172.22.255.1 ether1



 BR AP3 - StarOS,  2 wireless cards

 Wpci1   172.22.13.1

 Wpci2   172.22.20.1

 Ether1   172.22.255.3



 0.0.0.0/24  172.22.255.1 ether1





 Trace from machine on 172.22.1.0/24

 C:\Documents and Settings\Administratortracert 172.22.20.1



 Tracing route to 172.22.20.1 over a maximum of 30 hops



   11 ms1 ms1 ms  172.22.1.1

   2 1 ms 1 ms1 ms  172.22.1.3

   3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms  172.22.1.3

   4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms  172.22.1.1

   5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms  ^C



 Even though I have a route pointing it to 1.3, it starts with 1.1
unlike all
 the routes in the list.



 Mark


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RE: [WISPA] Routing woes.....

2006-09-17 Thread Mark McElvy
It is a Tranzeo TR5-21
Every thing has been and is working fine except for the latest entry for
the 172.22.20.0/24 network

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
http://www.accubak.net/
Nationwide Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data! 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 1:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing woes.

The bridge feeding the BRAPx units can be a problem unless it is a
true bridge, meaning it cannot be a pseudo bridge doing proxy arp or
mac cloning.   What type of unit is that bridge?

Lonnie

On 9/17/06, Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The edge router is in my office connected to WAN and 172.22.1.0/24
 There is a radio on the roof (bridge) feeding BR AP1 wireless (1.3)
 The second wpci is an AP (1.12)
 Ethernet connects BRAP1, BRAP2 and BRAP3 on 172.22.255.0/29
 BRAP2 is an AP (12.1)
 BRAP3 is an AP (13.1) and a BH to a new tower.
 The back haul link is 172.22.20.0/24

 Everything is statically routed except for the bridge radio feeding
the
 tower.

 Mark McElvy
 AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
 573.729.9200 - Office
 573.729.9203 - Fax
 573.247.9980 - Mobile
 http://www.accubak.com/
 http://www.accubak.net/
 Nationwide Internet Access
 Accurate backups for your critical data!

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
 Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:22 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing woes.

 What is the Ethernet assignment on the edge router?  What is the
 connection to the BR AP units?  Is it Ethernet or wireless?  I am
 thinking it is Ethernet since the BR AP units seem to have their
 radios in AP mode, but the BH designation on the one unit has me not
 so sure of it.

 My first comment is actually a question.  Why use bridging at all?
 You have subnets assigned to all devices so routing would be a snap to
 implement and you are more than half way there.  Bridging uses the IP
 strictly for configuration.  It will figure out the connections based
 on the ARP table, so in my mind you never really have routes in a
 bridge design.  The two conflict.

 For routing design just make sure to use subnets that are common for
 each connected device.  That means that if you connect the edge unit
 to the other units by Ethernet, they all share a unique subnet and
 when you can ping the connected units you have the basis for a routed
 backbone.

 Once that is done and all backbone units are pingable on Ethernet I
 would simply enable RIP and remove the bridge tags and you would be
 solid for the rest of the LAN.

 Just keep assigning new, unique subnets to all new devices and let RIP
 take care of it.  All you will need is a default route on each new
 device that points to the machine and IP it connects with.

 By moving to routed and RIP you will find your current system is
 simpler and easier and I'll bet it will have higher performance and it
 will offer you more control and troubleshooting ability.

 Lonnie

 On 9/17/06, Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  I am trying to add a route to my existing network and I just can't
get
 it to
  work...
 
  The network I can't get to work is to network 172.22.20.0/24, all
 others
  work fine.
 
 
 
  Edge router StarOS
 
 
 
  0.0.0.0/0   216.229.xxx.xxxether1
 Wan
 
  172.22.255.0/29 172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR LAN
 
  172.22.11.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
  Route to BR AP1
 
  172.22.12.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
  Route to BR AP2
 
  172.22.13.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
  Route to BR AP3
 
  172.22.22.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
  Route to Atheros test
 
  172.22.23.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
  Route to Prism test
 
  172.22.20.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
  Route to Lenox BH ( does not work )
 
 
 
  BR AP1 - StarOS, 2 wireless cards
 
  Wpci1  172.22.11.1AP
 
  Wpci2   172.22.1.3 BH
 
  Ether1   172.22.255.1
 
 
 
  0.0.0.0/0   172.22.1.1 wpci2
 
  172.22.12.0/24   172.22.255.2 ether1
Route to AP2
 
  172.22.13.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
Route to AP3
 
  172.22.20.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
Route to BH Lenox
 
 
 
  BR AP2 - Mikrotik, 1 wireless card
 
  Wpci1   172.22.12.1   AP
 
  Ether1   172.22.355.2
 
 
 
  0.0.0.0/0   172.22.255.1 ether1
 
 
 
  BR AP3 - StarOS,  2 wireless cards
 
  Wpci1   172.22.13.1
 
  Wpci2   172.22.20.1
 
  Ether1

RE: [WISPA] Routing woes.....

2006-09-17 Thread Mark McElvy
I also like the idea of moving to RIP or OSPF but have yet taken the
time to wrap my head around it to understand how to implement.

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
http://www.accubak.com/
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing woes.

What is the Ethernet assignment on the edge router?  What is the
connection to the BR AP units?  Is it Ethernet or wireless?  I am
thinking it is Ethernet since the BR AP units seem to have their
radios in AP mode, but the BH designation on the one unit has me not
so sure of it.

My first comment is actually a question.  Why use bridging at all?
You have subnets assigned to all devices so routing would be a snap to
implement and you are more than half way there.  Bridging uses the IP
strictly for configuration.  It will figure out the connections based
on the ARP table, so in my mind you never really have routes in a
bridge design.  The two conflict.

For routing design just make sure to use subnets that are common for
each connected device.  That means that if you connect the edge unit
to the other units by Ethernet, they all share a unique subnet and
when you can ping the connected units you have the basis for a routed
backbone.

Once that is done and all backbone units are pingable on Ethernet I
would simply enable RIP and remove the bridge tags and you would be
solid for the rest of the LAN.

Just keep assigning new, unique subnets to all new devices and let RIP
take care of it.  All you will need is a default route on each new
device that points to the machine and IP it connects with.

By moving to routed and RIP you will find your current system is
simpler and easier and I'll bet it will have higher performance and it
will offer you more control and troubleshooting ability.

Lonnie

On 9/17/06, Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I am trying to add a route to my existing network and I just can't get
it to
 work...

 The network I can't get to work is to network 172.22.20.0/24, all
others
 work fine.



 Edge router StarOS



 0.0.0.0/0   216.229.xxx.xxxether1
Wan

 172.22.255.0/29 172.22.1.3 ether2
Route to BR LAN

 172.22.11.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP1

 172.22.12.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP2

 172.22.13.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP3

 172.22.22.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
 Route to Atheros test

 172.22.23.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
 Route to Prism test

 172.22.20.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to Lenox BH ( does not work )



 BR AP1 - StarOS, 2 wireless cards

 Wpci1  172.22.11.1AP

 Wpci2   172.22.1.3 BH

 Ether1   172.22.255.1



 0.0.0.0/0   172.22.1.1 wpci2

 172.22.12.0/24   172.22.255.2 ether1
   Route to AP2

 172.22.13.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
   Route to AP3

 172.22.20.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
   Route to BH Lenox



 BR AP2 - Mikrotik, 1 wireless card

 Wpci1   172.22.12.1   AP

 Ether1   172.22.355.2



 0.0.0.0/0   172.22.255.1 ether1



 BR AP3 - StarOS,  2 wireless cards

 Wpci1   172.22.13.1

 Wpci2   172.22.20.1

 Ether1   172.22.255.3



 0.0.0.0/24  172.22.255.1 ether1





 Trace from machine on 172.22.1.0/24

 C:\Documents and Settings\Administratortracert 172.22.20.1



 Tracing route to 172.22.20.1 over a maximum of 30 hops



   11 ms1 ms1 ms  172.22.1.1

   2 1 ms 1 ms1 ms  172.22.1.3

   3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms  172.22.1.3

   4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms  172.22.1.1

   5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms  ^C



 Even though I have a route pointing it to 1.3, it starts with 1.1
unlike all
 the routes in the list.



 Mark


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RE: [WISPA] Routing woes.....

2006-09-17 Thread Paul Hendry
In a routed network I would expect all interfaces that directly connect on
the same lan segment to have addresses from the same network range. As yours
do not then it suggests you are bridging and, as Lonnie said, chances are
this is the route cause of your problems. Perhaps now is the time to switch
to a properly routed network? You don’t need to run a routing protocol like
RIP or OSPF if you are no ready for it yet and tbh there are some dodgy
implementations out there. Getting rid of any bridged interfaces and putting
in static routes and correct ip assignment should do the job.

Cheers,

P.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: 17 September 2006 19:55
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routing woes.

I also like the idea of moving to RIP or OSPF but have yet taken the
time to wrap my head around it to understand how to implement.

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
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Accurate backups for your critical data! 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing woes.

What is the Ethernet assignment on the edge router?  What is the
connection to the BR AP units?  Is it Ethernet or wireless?  I am
thinking it is Ethernet since the BR AP units seem to have their
radios in AP mode, but the BH designation on the one unit has me not
so sure of it.

My first comment is actually a question.  Why use bridging at all?
You have subnets assigned to all devices so routing would be a snap to
implement and you are more than half way there.  Bridging uses the IP
strictly for configuration.  It will figure out the connections based
on the ARP table, so in my mind you never really have routes in a
bridge design.  The two conflict.

For routing design just make sure to use subnets that are common for
each connected device.  That means that if you connect the edge unit
to the other units by Ethernet, they all share a unique subnet and
when you can ping the connected units you have the basis for a routed
backbone.

Once that is done and all backbone units are pingable on Ethernet I
would simply enable RIP and remove the bridge tags and you would be
solid for the rest of the LAN.

Just keep assigning new, unique subnets to all new devices and let RIP
take care of it.  All you will need is a default route on each new
device that points to the machine and IP it connects with.

By moving to routed and RIP you will find your current system is
simpler and easier and I'll bet it will have higher performance and it
will offer you more control and troubleshooting ability.

Lonnie

On 9/17/06, Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I am trying to add a route to my existing network and I just can't get
it to
 work...

 The network I can't get to work is to network 172.22.20.0/24, all
others
 work fine.



 Edge router StarOS



 0.0.0.0/0   216.229.xxx.xxxether1
Wan

 172.22.255.0/29 172.22.1.3 ether2
Route to BR LAN

 172.22.11.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP1

 172.22.12.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP2

 172.22.13.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to BR AP3

 172.22.22.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
 Route to Atheros test

 172.22.23.0/24   172.22.1.9 ether2
 Route to Prism test

 172.22.20.0/24   172.22.1.3 ether2
 Route to Lenox BH ( does not work )



 BR AP1 - StarOS, 2 wireless cards

 Wpci1  172.22.11.1AP

 Wpci2   172.22.1.3 BH

 Ether1   172.22.255.1



 0.0.0.0/0   172.22.1.1 wpci2

 172.22.12.0/24   172.22.255.2 ether1
   Route to AP2

 172.22.13.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
   Route to AP3

 172.22.20.0/24   172.22.255.3 ether1
   Route to BH Lenox



 BR AP2 - Mikrotik, 1 wireless card

 Wpci1   172.22.12.1   AP

 Ether1   172.22.355.2



 0.0.0.0/0   172.22.255.1 ether1



 BR AP3 - StarOS,  2 wireless cards

 Wpci1   172.22.13.1

 Wpci2   172.22.20.1

 Ether1   172.22.255.3



 0.0.0.0/24  172.22.255.1 ether1





 Trace from machine on 172.22.1.0/24

 C:\Documents and Settings\Administratortracert 172.22.20.1



 Tracing route to 172.22.20.1 over a maximum of 30 hops



   11 ms1 ms1 ms  172.22.1.1

   2 1 ms 1 ms1 ms  172.22.1.3

   3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms  172.22.1.3

   4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms