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Quite a story Allen. I am aware of some minor parts of the MobilePRO saga. Bruce Sanquinetti was the former president of the U.S. subsidiary of BreezeCOM. He left BreezeCOM the same week I joined in August of 1999. He was a pretty mercurial guy from what I gathered by those that had worked with him. I am glad he left (or was asked to leave, I don't know which), because the corporate culture I have always worked under and tried to foster is a much different type and Lord knows I don't do well with autocrats -- I am, er, a bit too opinionated. I am now into my 9th year. Anyway, after BreezeCOM Bruce went on looking for the Next Big Thing, first trying to lead the old Wave Wireless out of Sarasota, FL. That did not go so well and he went on to start-up a new chip company. That went south and the next I heard was that he had joined MobilePRO. I think he did that for only about a year, then left that too. I have no idea what he is up to now. Your tale is certainly a cautionary one. My advice to WISPs is that if you are trying to exit via a sale of the company you built with your blood, sweat, tears and personal dollars ONLY sell for cash. Fortunately Allen you did get 1/2 in cash and you were smart enough to sell your shares as soon as you could. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Marsalis Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:24 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) Hello Allen, Good to see you back and doing well. Curious to hear your take on the MobilePro saga. On or off list is good with me. The Friends Quite a few people have asked me (A) what have I been doing lately? And (B) please tell me the MobilePro saga. It means a lot to me that some of you have asked about me. It has hit me that although only have a handful of friends here in town, I did have 100+ friends in this industry! Thank you all for your kind thoughts and I do apologize for dropping off the planet like I did. That was my loss more than anyone else's. You are some of the finest people I have ever met in my life, besides my old ShreveNet staff. You know how I felt about my crew. Heck, you all helped me train them! ;) The Saga I will start with the MobilePro Saga and get it out of the way and move on to more positive things like the goodthings I have been up to in the past year or two. I tell you The Saga not as an excuse for my hiatus from the wireless industry, and excuse for my strange behavior, but well...(get it? Well, that's a deep subject, LOL) well...because some of you asked me too (cough cough Brad Belton cough cough). Here goes.. It is somewhat of an interesting story I guess, for inside industry people like us, or else this might be extremely Off Topic for this list. As a WISP, this is not as easy story for me to tell. Not a happy story for me. I would like to tell the story and forget as much as possible and move on. Perhaps there is something that you can learn from this (yeah like Allen is not so smart after all? - (Maybe and maybe not, you decide) The Disclaimer It has been over 3 years since the sale of my (W)ISP to MobilePro. I am no longer under any agreement or obligation. I am now entitled to express my opinion right or wrong. This is my opinion and only my opinion. The Beginning Roll the clock back to 2004. Life is pretty good. Speaking at WISPCON. Drinking Romulan Ale with some of the finest people on the planet. (now argue that point) Why on earth would I want to sell my company? The WISP of my dreams? Whatsup wit dat? There were a whole host of reasons for selling out and many of which were personal some were reasonable, and some might have been downright psychotic. Here are some of the reasons I had for selling, just in case any of you ever consider selling yourself. That might be one of the most difficult decisions you ever make. Choose wisely! (A) I was not a pureplay. We offered wireless, DSL, dialup, T1, hosting, web design, hotspots, you name it, I tried it all. My problems began as I began to take a beating on dialup amid new competition with cablemodem and several DSL carriers. I was bleeding revenues about 1% of month despite growth in broadband areas (DSL, wireless and T1) But I was all over the Northern state. Not much DSL and T1 out there in the boonies. And wireless was relatively a new trick for everyone back in those days. I was debt free until 1999 when I acquired the second largest ISP in the area (I was the largest). With this new debt, I borrowed even more to host all these new customers. (The old ISP was using crap) I got a good interest rate with the bank and with my father, both who backed me. LOL, then we REALLY started growing fast! (mainly dialup) So much of this debt was the result of left over baggage from the dial days plus the acquisition
RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)
...And by the way Allen, whatever the route you took to get back, I am just glad you are. As I said before, you were missed. You were, are, and always will be one of the good guys. One day many of us should hit the porch with some scotch, a good laptop and good wireless connection :) and write a book. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World Chicago, September 25-27 Booth #409 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) Quite a story Allen. I am aware of some minor parts of the MobilePRO saga. Bruce Sanquinetti was the former president of the U.S. subsidiary of BreezeCOM. He left BreezeCOM the same week I joined in August of 1999. He was a pretty mercurial guy from what I gathered by those that had worked with him. I am glad he left (or was asked to leave, I don't know which), because the corporate culture I have always worked under and tried to foster is a much different type and Lord knows I don't do well with autocrats -- I am, er, a bit too opinionated. I am now into my 9th year. Anyway, after BreezeCOM Bruce went on looking for the Next Big Thing, first trying to lead the old Wave Wireless out of Sarasota, FL. That did not go so well and he went on to start-up a new chip company. That went south and the next I heard was that he had joined MobilePRO. I think he did that for only about a year, then left that too. I have no idea what he is up to now. Your tale is certainly a cautionary one. My advice to WISPs is that if you are trying to exit via a sale of the company you built with your blood, sweat, tears and personal dollars ONLY sell for cash. Fortunately Allen you did get 1/2 in cash and you were smart enough to sell your shares as soon as you could. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Marsalis Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:24 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) Hello Allen, Good to see you back and doing well. Curious to hear your take on the MobilePro saga. On or off list is good with me. The Friends Quite a few people have asked me (A) what have I been doing lately? And (B) please tell me the MobilePro saga. It means a lot to me that some of you have asked about me. It has hit me that although only have a handful of friends here in town, I did have 100+ friends in this industry! Thank you all for your kind thoughts and I do apologize for dropping off the planet like I did. That was my loss more than anyone else's. You are some of the finest people I have ever met in my life, besides my old ShreveNet staff. You know how I felt about my crew. Heck, you all helped me train them! ;) The Saga I will start with the MobilePro Saga and get it out of the way and move on to more positive things like the goodthings I have been up to in the past year or two. I tell you The Saga not as an excuse for my hiatus from the wireless industry, and excuse for my strange behavior, but well...(get it? Well, that's a deep subject, LOL) well...because some of you asked me too (cough cough Brad Belton cough cough). Here goes.. It is somewhat of an interesting story I guess, for inside industry people like us, or else this might be extremely Off Topic for this list. As a WISP, this is not as easy story for me to tell. Not a happy story for me. I would like to tell the story and forget as much as possible and move on. Perhaps there is something that you can learn from this (yeah like Allen is not so smart after all? - (Maybe and maybe not, you decide) The Disclaimer It has been over 3 years since the sale of my (W)ISP to MobilePro. I am no longer under any agreement or obligation. I am now entitled to express my opinion right or wrong. This is my opinion and only my opinion. The Beginning Roll the clock back to 2004. Life is pretty good. Speaking at WISPCON. Drinking Romulan Ale with some of the finest people on the planet. (now argue that point) Why on earth would I want to sell my company? The WISP of my dreams? Whatsup wit dat? There were a whole host of reasons for selling out and many of which were personal some were reasonable, and some might have been downright psychotic. Here are some of the reasons I had for selling, just in case any of you ever consider selling yourself. That might be one of the most difficult decisions you ever make. Choose wisely! (A) I was not a pureplay. We offered wireless, DSL, dialup, T1, hosting, web design, hotspots, you name it, I tried it all. My problems began as I began to take a beating on dialup amid new competition with cablemodem and several DSL carriers. I was bleeding
RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)
Hello Allen, Thanks for taking the time to touch on some of your experiences with MobilePro. As you know my interest is because Jack Beech is my brother, Jack Belton, brother-in-law. Jack Beech and his ISP NationWide Internet was instrumental in our early creation of BelWave. Primarily we had a need to serve tenants in our own properties that were broadband starved. One thing led to another and now BelWave is where it is today. Nationwide Internet was the first MobilePro acquisition and the cornerstone ISP of the rollup. We've watched with great interest the ups and downs MobilePro has undergone. You should see the several inch thick file we have on them! lol I believe about the same time ShreveNet was being courted by MobilePro we were also being prodded for interest in participating from Jack Beech. Honestly if we felt we had something worth selling we would have shown more interest, but our growth was and still remains like many startups; off the charts. A sale multiple would have to be very aggressive in order to attract any interest from us. Additionally, Bill (my other brother) could not come to grips with exactly how MobilePro was ever going to make a profit. Certainly the early goers could benefit from a low stock price basis and hope to be able to convert as soon as possible (as Beech did and it sounds like you did), but long term the business plan in our opinion didn't make sense. Today I can't remember the last time I've seen or spoken with Beech. I think he is doing something with the games side of MobilePro, but I'm not sure of that. Kinda funny, we used to see him at birthday parties, various family activities etc, but lately he's been a ghost. I don't fault him for this as we've certainly been covered with work as well and have less time now than we did a few years ago too. Beech is a good guy and works hard. I've always respected him for what he accomplished with NationWide. Anyway, I appreciate your candidness and look forward to hearing more from you as you get back into the swing of things. BTW, that Sunstream AP (or any other gear we have) is always available for you any time! I'll be more impressed if you make the trip next time on the unicycle! LOL Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Marsalis Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:24 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) Hello Allen, Good to see you back and doing well. Curious to hear your take on the MobilePro saga. On or off list is good with me. The Friends Quite a few people have asked me (A) what have I been doing lately? And (B) please tell me the MobilePro saga. It means a lot to me that some of you have asked about me. It has hit me that although only have a handful of friends here in town, I did have 100+ friends in this industry! Thank you all for your kind thoughts and I do apologize for dropping off the planet like I did. That was my loss more than anyone else's. You are some of the finest people I have ever met in my life, besides my old ShreveNet staff. You know how I felt about my crew. Heck, you all helped me train them! ;) The Saga I will start with the MobilePro Saga and get it out of the way and move on to more positive things like the goodthings I have been up to in the past year or two. I tell you The Saga not as an excuse for my hiatus from the wireless industry, and excuse for my strange behavior, but well...(get it? Well, that's a deep subject, LOL) well.because some of you asked me too (cough cough Brad Belton cough cough). Here goes.. It is somewhat of an interesting story I guess, for inside industry people like us, or else this might be extremely Off Topic for this list. As a WISP, this is not as easy story for me to tell. Not a happy story for me. I would like to tell the story and forget as much as possible and move on. Perhaps there is something that you can learn from this (yeah like Allen is not so smart after all? - (Maybe and maybe not, you decide) The Disclaimer It has been over 3 years since the sale of my (W)ISP to MobilePro. I am no longer under any agreement or obligation. I am now entitled to express my opinion right or wrong. This is my opinion and only my opinion. The Beginning Roll the clock back to 2004. Life is pretty good. Speaking at WISPCON. Drinking Romulan Ale with some of the finest people on the planet. (now argue that point) Why on earth would I want to sell my company? The WISP of my dreams? Whatsup wit dat? There were a whole host of reasons for selling out and many of which were personal some were reasonable, and some might have been downright psychotic. Here are some of the reasons I had for selling, just in case any of you ever consider selling yourself. That might be one of the most difficult decisions you ever make. Choose wisely! (A)
RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)
At 10:21 AM 9/13/2007, Patrick Leary wrote: Anyway, after BreezeCOM Bruce went on looking for the Next Big Thing, first trying to lead the old Wave Wireless out of Sarasota, FL. That did not go so well and he went on to start-up a new chip company. That went south and the next I heard was that he had joined MobilePRO. I think he did that for only about a year, then left that too. I have no idea what he is up to now. Yeah me neither. But it is interesting to note that MobilePro's CEO (Jay Wright) was also at Wave Wireless (Speedcom) with Bruce back during that time functioning as their CFO. The good ole boys network was alive and well. Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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At 11:03 AM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Thanks for taking the time to touch on some of your experiences with MobilePro. As you know my interest is because Jack Beech is my brother, Jack Belton, brother-in-law. Am I reading this right? Jack Beech is your brother? Your last name is Belton so do you mean that Jack Belton is your brother and Jack Beech is your brother-in-law? Sorry for my confusion. And thanks for the clarification. I've got to run, but I'll pick back up later. Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I had to read that through a couple of times to get it...Beech is his brother's brother in law. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Marsalis Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) At 11:03 AM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Thanks for taking the time to touch on some of your experiences with MobilePro. As you know my interest is because Jack Beech is my brother, Jack Belton, brother-in-law. Am I reading this right? Jack Beech is your brother? Your last name is Belton so do you mean that Jack Belton is your brother and Jack Beech is your brother-in-law? Sorry for my confusion. And thanks for the clarification. I've got to run, but I'll pick back up later. Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Allen: No corrections - you got it right about Sprint's fixed MMDS customers, using Hybrid Networks gear (is the vendor that took over for HN still around?) called Sprint Broadband Direct. As far as I know, they're still out there, though their numbers are way, way down as Sprint (or their subcontractor - perhaps Kite) had some INCREDIBLE problems that drove SBD customers to find ANY other source of Broadband Internet Access, including satellite. One of the most damning (and one of the most fundamental services for an ISP) issues was unreliable DNS. I was subscribed to a mailing list by SBD users, and the complaints about unreliable DNS were amazing. Like you... I've learned the slow, sad, hard way over the decade that I've been writing about Broadband Wireless Internet Access that SO many companies that entered into the BWIA industry were never about actually providing services, but rather ALL about, either subtly, or overtly, purely stock scams. They did the minimum that they could get away with while pumping out press releases for even the most mundane corporate accomplishments, paid handsome salaries, and exercised atrocious technical judgment. The example you cite from personal experience is but one of many such stories. Some of the most egregious, such as Teligent and WinStar were detailed in a chapter of Om Malik's EXCELLENT book Broadbandits. An acquaintance of mine here in the Seattle area tells a story eerily similar to yours about the outcome of selling his very-well regarded ISP to WinStar. All this said... the trend towards consolidation / rollups of ISPs / WISPs is real and continuing, and there are a number of acquirers out there that ARE doing a good job of consolidation. I think it all boils down to due diligence on the part of those selling a business - if you can't make sense of the potential acquirer's business model or talk to the leadership of previously acquired companies and hear good things from them, you might want to think twice. Thanks for taking the time, and soul searching to offer your cautionary tale, Allen! Steve On 9/12/07, Allen Marsalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The Old Sprint MMDS Project Steve Stroh can correct me if I'm wrong. His memory is much better than mine. But recall the old Sprint MMDS network in Phoenix and a few other markets? They had about 15k or 20k users at one time as I recall before they put a freeze on signups back years ago. 20k isn't much by my dial-up standards, but this was the largest fixed wireless network in the country IIRC. Well Sprint found someone named Jerry Sullivan at Kite Networks (Old Tritel mogul?) to contract out the maintenance of these licensed spectrum fixed wireless customers owned by Sprint. MOBL buy's Kite from Jerry for something like $20MM (I forget). (wink wink) Last month, MOBL just sold Kite to someone called Gobility for barely $2MM only the deal has fallen through cause they can't get funding or something. Whatever.. So this represents yet another major stockholder loss. As a side note, Robert Hoskins at Broadband Wireless Exchange was so duped. Even at this moment he lists MobilePro as the largest WISP in the USA by Robert. LMAO……I don't believe it, do you? http://www.bbwexchange.com/wireless_isp/http://www.bbwexchange.com/wireless_isp/ MOBL owns very few true wireless customers. Sprint owns all those MMDS customers. Robert is smarter than that so I have to wonder. Sprint is technically the largest WISP in the nation measure by customers OWNED rather than customers served as a subcontractor. But Sprint never claimed that honor (or got to Robert for the publicity) Sorry Robert, I'm not dissing you. Just disappointed for the lack of due diligence or whatever. Quite a big zit on your website if you ask me. Butr hey, what do I know. snip Allen am at bandwise dot com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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At 01:04 PM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Sorry for the confusion. No Jack Beech is my brother's (Jack Belton) brother-in-law. Ah, yeah now I remember you telling me that years ago. I do appreciate you refreshing my memory. Jack Beech was somehow friends of the CEO (Jay Wright) and after he no longer ran the ISP's, he moved over to the Progames website division. But I'm not sure there was anything Jack could have done to save the day considering the Cornell financing deals, and ridiculous salaries, bonuses, and so forth. Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Jack was also a consultant for Kite and was tasked with solving the CPE problem of the no CPE needed Muni-Wifi deployments. Joel NexGenAccess Inc. www.nexgenaccess.com 740-513-4122 NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com -- Original Message --- From: Allen Marsalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:27:21 -0500 Subject: RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) At 01:04 PM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Sorry for the confusion. No Jack Beech is my brother's (Jack Belton) brother-in-law. Ah, yeah now I remember you telling me that years ago. I do appreciate you refreshing my memory. Jack Beech was somehow friends of the CEO (Jay Wright) and after he no longer ran the ISP's, he moved over to the Progames website division. But I'm not sure there was anything Jack could have done to save the day considering the Cornell financing deals, and ridiculous salaries, bonuses, and so forth. Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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At 10:21 AM 9/13/2007, Patrick Leary wrote: Your tale is certainly a cautionary one. My advice to WISPs is that if you are trying to exit via a sale of the company you built with your blood, sweat, tears and personal dollars ONLY sell for cash. Here is an additional cautionary thought FWIW. I always had a great reputation and so did my company. After I left, ShreveNet quickly went from being the best to the worse ISP in town. The employees scattered to the wind, but I'm still here. I thought it would be easy to start a new business however people do not forget and forgive so easily. I even had one ex-customer jokingly call me a traitor years later! You guys were the best! Why did you sell out!? I think my future customers will always wonder if I am going to sell them out again, which is always a possibility. But I'm no quitter! I outlasted a lot of Internet companies and upstream providers like uu.net Worldcom, Global Crossing, etc. Anyway the moral of this lesson is do not sell out and expect to keep your career unscathed. I would not sell my entire company again unless it was enough to retire on. Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Yes, I remember Jack always speaking very highly of Jay Wright. I never met Jay, but I hear he can sell ice to an Eskimo...a real slick Willy if you know what I mean. Did you have much contact with Jack or Jay? Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel White Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) Jack was also a consultant for Kite and was tasked with solving the CPE problem of the no CPE needed Muni-Wifi deployments. Joel NexGenAccess Inc. www.nexgenaccess.com 740-513-4122 NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com -- Original Message --- From: Allen Marsalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:27:21 -0500 Subject: RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) At 01:04 PM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Sorry for the confusion. No Jack Beech is my brother's (Jack Belton) brother-in-law. Ah, yeah now I remember you telling me that years ago. I do appreciate you refreshing my memory. Jack Beech was somehow friends of the CEO (Jay Wright) and after he no longer ran the ISP's, he moved over to the Progames website division. But I'm not sure there was anything Jack could have done to save the day considering the Cornell financing deals, and ridiculous salaries, bonuses, and so forth. Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)
I had more contact with Jack than I desired, but not much with Jay. The two times Jay was in town, I was working on a couple $100,000 dollar deal that MP later threw away, and the second time I was on a trip that brought in an extra 5000 dial-up customers the first year and was slated to go up to 20,000 in a year, that MP also threw away. Paul talked to Jay a lot, and had a very similar impression to the ice to the Eskimo one. Brad, Do I know you? The name sounds way to familiar. Joel NGA Support Team NexGenAccess Inc. www.nexgenaccess.com 740-513-4122 NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com -- Original Message --- From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:38:01 -0500 Subject: RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) Yes, I remember Jack always speaking very highly of Jay Wright. I never met Jay, but I hear he can sell ice to an Eskimo...a real slick Willy if you know what I mean. Did you have much contact with Jack or Jay? Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel White Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) Jack was also a consultant for Kite and was tasked with solving the CPE problem of the no CPE needed Muni-Wifi deployments. Joel NexGenAccess Inc. www.nexgenaccess.com 740-513-4122 NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com -- Original Message --- From: Allen Marsalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:27:21 -0500 Subject: RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) At 01:04 PM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Sorry for the confusion. No Jack Beech is my brother's (Jack Belton) brother-in-law. Ah, yeah now I remember you telling me that years ago. I do appreciate you refreshing my memory. Jack Beech was somehow friends of the CEO (Jay Wright) and after he no longer ran the ISP's, he moved over to the Progames website division. But I'm not sure there was anything Jack could have done to save the day considering the Cornell financing deals, and ridiculous salaries, bonuses, and so forth. Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message
RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)
At 10:28 AM 9/13/2007, Patrick Leary wrote: ...And by the way Allen, whatever the route you took to get back, I am just glad you are. As I said before, you were missed. You were, are, and always will be one of the good guys. One day many of us should hit the porch with some scotch, a good laptop and good wireless connection :) and write a book. Patrick your thoughtful post means a lot to me. Count me in! (I have piles of notes) I always wanted to write a book with someone like Steve or yourself, you knowto raise the overall caliper of the book. ;-) LOL. You know something.. While I was laying on my back in the dentists chair yesterday staring at the ceiling while getting a root canal, there were a few posters stapled to the ceiling to give patients something to look at. One of the posters struck me pretty hard. It showed a litter of cute puppies.. Above the picture it reads: Eat Well, Live Well, Play Well, Be Well, Sleep Well, Love Well No where in there did it say Get Rich or Die Trying: Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)
At 03:30 PM 9/13/2007, Joel White wrote: Jack was also a consultant for Kite and was tasked with solving the CPE problem of the no CPE needed Muni-Wifi deployments. LMAO, now Joel, out of respect for Brad I will not comment further on Beech on these boards. Brad drove out of his way to loan me a AP one time, and not everyone does that. Besides, I think the CEO and CFO had more to do with this plan, whatever it was. Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)
At 03:38 PM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Yes, I remember Jack always speaking very highly of Jay Wright. I never met Jay, but I hear he can sell ice to an Eskimo...a real slick Willy if you know what I mean. Did you have much contact with Jack or Jay? I negotiated the sale of my company directly with Jay. So yes. Jack was my boss. So yes again. However I never met Jay before the sale, and I only met Jay one time for an hour or two after the sale. LOL, maybe I'm the slick willy. Yep he wired a million dollars to my attorney to buy me without ever meeting me face-to-face or laying eyes on my company. Jack did come by once or twice before hand though to check me out. The whole experience was very strange due to the lack of due diligence before the sale and other oddities... Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)
No worries here Allen, feel free to fire away. It's not like Beech is blood...lol...and it's probably good people see and hear the stories (good and bad) for their own good. I will say in Beech's defense that it sounds like he was saddled with an impossible task. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Marsalis Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post) At 03:30 PM 9/13/2007, Joel White wrote: Jack was also a consultant for Kite and was tasked with solving the CPE problem of the no CPE needed Muni-Wifi deployments. LMAO, now Joel, out of respect for Brad I will not comment further on Beech on these boards. Brad drove out of his way to loan me a AP one time, and not everyone does that. Besides, I think the CEO and CFO had more to do with this plan, whatever it was. Allen ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
