Primus tells me they are more than a VOIP company and that they do make
money. They impressed me in my dealings with them. Can you share more
about your information about Primus? I have a big interest in knowing
anything I can about them right now.
Thanks,
Scriv
Peter R. wrote:
You haven't
Delta3 - is the EBITA?
DSJ
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:47 PM
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Primus tells me they are more than
Primus/Lingo is calling every WISP in the country trying to sign them up
for a very CommPartners like deal. All of these VoIP providers are using
the same shitty model that will be worthless in 2 years time. There is
no money to be made in VoIP short-term unless you operate your own
equipment.
I'm a little behind on it, but I'm definately interested in all
opinions and options.
Thanks!
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:09 PM
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Primus
and myself.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Delta3 - is the EBITA?
DSJ
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having a hard time understanding why it cannot be profitable, at
least on some level.
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Quite
Primus is a big International LD company. That is how it began in 1994.
Check out the Primus Wireless plan. Cellular and VOIP are based in
International exchanges.
Primus has short term debt of $26M; long term is $635M.
About to be de-listed from Nasdaq.
Net loss for the fourth quarter 2005
, March 06, 2006 2:05 PM
To: John Scrivner
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Primus is a big International LD company. That is how it began in 1994.
Check out the Primus Wireless plan. Cellular and VOIP are based in
International exchanges.
Primus has
, 2006 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Primus tells me they are more than a VOIP company and that they do make
money. They impressed me in my dealings with them. Can you share more
about your information about Primus? I have a big interest in knowing
anything I can about
I have to agree with Matt. Selling Host PBX service is probably the only
part left of VOIP that allow for a margin.
Peter
Matt Liotta wrote:
Primus/Lingo is calling every WISP in the country trying to sign them
up for a very CommPartners like deal. All of these VoIP providers are
using the
Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Quite simply, VoIP will be free in the long run. Use it to sell
bandwidth or what have you, but don't plan on profiting from it
directly outside
- Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Primus/Lingo is calling every WISP in the country trying to sign them
up for a very CommPartners like
Issues such as LNP, E-911, 411, CALEA, yellow page listings, and taxes
will take a bite out of any profit.
Even termination, origination and DIDs cost money.
Let's say you get a 2 way CLEC PRI for $615 + DIDs at $10 per 20.
And let's say the CLEC will do your LNP and 911.
$615 divided by 23
, 2006 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
In our case, the most expense part of our VoIP deployment was getting our
network ready to support it correctly. Whether the backend is outsourced
doesn't affect the requirement to support end-to-end QoS. Therefore, I
believe that you
, 2006 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Because Vonage et al, sell Resi VOIP cheaper than TDM Voice.
Why? Easier to market. Easier to take orders (notice I did not say sell?)
But termination will be going up (already seeing rising costs for
Dedicated LD).
E-911 is not cheap
That whole FCC E-911 thing was to save the PSTN. Cell phones have been
around 10 years without 911.
The other VOIP concern are the Virtual NXX cases at the FCC.
If SBC wins it's virtual NXX case against Valor (?? maybe another
company), the charges for DID will go through the roof.
Virtual
You might have just had a bad experience.
I beta tested the Primus Business VOIP product in 2004 and my only
complaint was that after talking for 75 minutes on one call, it would
die. And the Cisco ATA needed to be rebooted a lot.
Peter
KyWiFi LLC wrote:
Hi Scriv,
We tried Lingo but could
, March 06, 2006 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
In our case, the most expense part of our VoIP deployment was getting
our network ready to support it correctly. Whether the backend is
outsourced doesn't affect the requirement to support end-to-end QoS.
Therefore, I
You're a CLEC, right?
Matt Liotta wrote:
The notion of avoiding toll costs by working with other WISPs sounds
great in theory. From our standpoint, it would cost us more to connect
to a single WISP than to pay our entire long distance bill. We pay
between $0.002 to $0.005 per minute on
.
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The notion of avoiding toll costs by working with other WISPs sounds
great in theory. From our standpoint
Nope
-Matt
Peter R. wrote:
You're a CLEC, right?
Matt Liotta wrote:
The notion of avoiding toll costs by working with other WISPs sounds
great in theory. From our standpoint, it would cost us more to
connect to a single WISP than to pay our entire long distance bill.
We pay between
DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Primus/Lingo is calling every WISP
: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Because Vonage et al, sell Resi VOIP cheaper than TDM Voice.
Why? Easier to market. Easier to take orders (notice I did not say sell?)
But termination will be going up (already seeing rising costs for
Dedicated LD).
E-911 is not cheap (nor is it nationally
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Because Vonage et al, sell Resi VOIP cheaper than TDM Voice.
Why? Easier to market. Easier to take orders (notice I did not say
sell?)
But termination
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RANT
I've got working VOIP on my network, beta-tested and ready to roll out but
without
General List
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RANT
I've got working VOIP on my network, beta-tested and ready to roll out but
without e911. I like VOIP, because I have people subscribing to our service
just so they can get Vonage and ditch their land line - but this whole e911
snip
I think everyone of us need to be in our own VoIP business!! I have even
given thought to a Coop kind of deal, but I need to have some more beer and
thoughts on that :-)
/snip
Mac,
You need some BEER -N- WIRELESS GEAR
-Charles
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The notion of avoiding toll costs by working with other WISPs sounds
great
Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Hi Scriv,
We tried Lingo but could not get it to work reliably and
their voice quality was horrible when it did work. Their
support is overseas so expect to be treated like
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Mac - as I stated - None of these #s are local. Which means
)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600
318.303.4228
318.303.4229
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the problem is, Johnny's
: Sunday, March 05, 2006 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
the problem is, Johnny's in an area where his local C.O. isn't tapped
by the major LNP-able VOIP or Voice guys. No one, and I've looked
and spoken to many, has 337-774 portable...
JohnnyO wrote:
Ok -
#1
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Mac, you're right, but the local-dialing problem is the one Johnny's
trying to solve, with NO CALL FORWARDING involved, which would incur him
extra charges
-tel.uswww.RadioResponse.org (Katrina
Relief)Rayville, La.318.728.8600 318.303.4228318.303.4229
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JohnnyO
To: Mac Dearman
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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 7:59
PM
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appliance
Mac - you
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Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
The Hell you say I can't!
Pick your towns and get the check book out -
$50.00 per number and start talking!!! This includes unlimited long distance
as well as local calls - - -with all
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To: Mac Dearman
Cc: WISPA General List
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 7:59 PM
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.com
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From: JohnnyO
To: Mac Dearman
Cc: WISPA General List
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Just send me a connection fee and I will take care of the
rest of it :-)
How many lines, whats the area code and how fast do you
need them? With 911 of course.
Mac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC.Authorized Barracuda
ResellerMikroTik RouterOS
Mac - you can't provide it either Please let me know if you can...
337-774
Let me know if you can provide local to me service - Also - will you sell me unlimited plans ? I'd be willing to pay $50.00/mo for unlimited useage. They only use about 9000-12000 LOCAL minutes per month
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
So far, LNP is not a big deal - it's pretty easy to get a toll-free line.
Toll-free is not LNP.
How does the biz client keep his phone number without keeping his
service with the LEC?
But the 911 requirement is a problem. The whole PSAP setup where the
local
we call them TELE-BARONS.
A. Huppenthal wrote:
I wonder what we should start calling the new telcos. There are 3
international companies that control nearly all of telcom today.
Verizon/MCI, SBC that bought Cingular/ATT, and Sprint/Nextel. They
aren't Bell Operating Companies. They are
The margin in consumer VOIP is disappearing. The costs of the
infrastructure including DIDs and 911 implementation have slammed the
industry. Read Vonage's IPO to better understand the 911 liability and
cost.
In a couple of cases I have consulted on, the local CO was not
accessible by any
!
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From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP
The margin in consumer VOIP is disappearing. The costs
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP
The margin in consumer VOIP is disappearing. The costs of the
infrastructure including DIDs and 911 implementation have slammed the
industry. Read Vonage's IPO to better understand the 911 liability and
cost
CP has stopped selling Residential. Period. (That is what I was told).
Regards,
Peter
Charles Wu wrote:
Not to kick a dead horse here, but I heard the other day (from a WISP friend
of mine) that Commpartners has stop installing WISP residential connections
(due to E911 compliance issues) for
Not to kick a dead horse here, but I heard the other day (from a WISP friend
of mine) that Commpartners has stop installing WISP residential connections
(due to E911 compliance issues) for the time being
This sucks for him since he's already paid the $5k setup fee and his 1500+
wireless customers
This is what I get from this URL:
Bad Gateway
The proxy server received an invalid
response from an upstream server.
Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7i Server at
www.stanaphone.com Port 443
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
Further
reading
I don't feel comfortable discussing the details on a public list.
-Matt
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
OK, here is the $1million dollar question...what have you done to make
your VOIP service 911 compliant?
Are you comfortable with your level of legal exposure?
How much did it cost and what is
After reading that, I think it is lawyer bait
I would not want to be the test case!! =-O
Blair Davis
West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
Just go to http://www.stanaphone.com/ and click on their News Update
link.
Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John
I don't believe you will find good margins with the setup you are
specifying. Additionally, you can forget about fax working, which is an
absolute requirement for businesses.
If anyone on this list wants to do VoIP over wireless, figure out how to
do fax before committing to the business.
include a large amount of residential focus as well.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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goals for WISPA.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- bigdumbpipe
DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:23 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb
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Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
Faxing was very simple to deal with - keep one line from the ILEC for
faxing. That also provides a good place to route 911 requests if
they come from within the system. No need to spend the resources to
figure out a problem that can be easily bypassed.
If you
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March 13-15, 2006
http://www.winog.com
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Comments inline:
Matt Liotta wrote:
If you keep a single POTS line for faxing, how do you manage the
backend? You are going to get the line billed separately from your
VoIP provider and you won't be able to share long distance or
international across the two. Most customers expect to have
---
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March 13-15, 2006
http://www.winog.com
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:12 PM
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Wireless Broadband
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From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:23 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb
pipeprovidervs.end-to-endconnectivity/content provider (html formatted
Tom,
This huge thread about CP is amazing.
If you don't want to use them, or don't like their business plan. Fine.
It is the same plan that Level(3) has, so I don't understand the big deal.
You seem really peeved about the initial fee. How is that any different
than an install fee?
There are
Again, they should be held accountable for what they have built with
PUBLIC MONEY.
IMO, it's nearly impossible to do a 1/2 and 1/2 type of model
I doubt there is any service provider out there who HAS NOT benefited in
some manner from PUBLIC MONEY at some time (or who would want to close the
door
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
Perhaps we have a disconnect. I am advocating that the business
continue to use ILEC or CLEC lines for their fax services.
I'm not managing the backend for the fax lines for the customers that
I am talking about. A large business in my area, is 10 or more
: [WISPA] VOIP on a shoestring
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
Perhaps we have a disconnect. I am advocating that the business
continue to use ILEC or CLEC lines for their fax services.
I'm not managing the backend for the fax lines for the customers that
I am talking about. A large business
] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: 05 January 2006 21:55
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP on a shoestring
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
Perhaps we have a disconnect. I am advocating that the business
continue to use ILEC or CLEC lines for their fax services.
I'm not managing
xed Wireless
Broadband
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To: 'WISPA General List'
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:43
PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners
-- "big dumb pipeprovider"vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider
(htmlformatted
Comments inline...
You are right, this solution is not 911 compliant. Neither is
service from Nufone, Teliax, Voipjet, Stanaphone or hundreds of other
VOIP carriers out there. The question of the degree of 911
compliance is very much up in the air right now because the FCC's
.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:49 PM
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP on a shoestring
Tom,
Your idea is sound, but personally, I would think that what you propose
falls into the same category as the WISP
You do understand that as a voice provider, since the FCC deemed 911 a
requirement, if your service is not 911 compliant and someone dies, you
can be held crimiinally liable as well as civilly liable?
Regards,
Peter
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: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP on a shoestring
Part-15 is now doing the same thing that I have been at since early
summer - - which is Nuvio. The only difference being that Bullet is not
paying out all that he has coming in - - which is his right! I ran
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP - and rants
Tom,
This huge thread about CP is amazing.
If you don't want to use them
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
The requirement is there but has yet to be proven by law, or
enforced. I intend to keep my voip ventures separate from my regular
ISP business. If the 911 requirement for voip is proven by law, then
I can either work to make it compliant according to the
OK, here is the $1million dollar question...what have you done to make
your VOIP service 911 compliant?
Are you comfortable with your level of legal exposure?
How much did it cost and what is the best way to handle it?
Inquiring minds
Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matt Liotta wrote:
Further reading
https://www.stanaphone.com/index/news_Nov2205.html
There is one way around the 911 requirement.
Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
OK, here is the $1million dollar question...what have you done to make
your VOIP service 911 compliant?
Are you
snip
performance to their VOIP servers over our network. Think about it, do you
think I'm going to allow the same performance to our competitive VOIP
provider as I do to our own VOIP services? By getting us to be a Partner for
them, we'd optimize them for our own benefit, and indirectly Comm
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Charles Wu wrote:
If you think about it, an argument can be made that preference of
one's own traffic (or depreffing competition traffic) is not that
much different than
These are nowhere NEAR the same thing. Let me give an example.
Let's say that my webserver is
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Charles Wu wrote:
If you take this line reasoning a few iterations further, it can
easily become a that @[EMAIL PROTECTED] competitor is riding my network for
free to access my customers, so I'm just gonna cut them off type
of discussion
Let me show you again what I
Title: Message
snipYou seem
to be taking this beyond what anyone has stated. There maybe those
that say the things that you claim above, however what yousaid was that
"...preference of one's own traffic...is not that muchdifferent than..." and
you went on to show a link to a story thatwas
The way I see it is this: (automatic insertion of my .o2 cents)
If Bell South can charge people extra for added services I can too.
You pay extra for call waiting, call forwarding, call blocking...etc - -
- you pay extra on my internet service to have me give your VoIP packets
I am not too concerned. It is only about $40K a month in recurring
monthly revenues off the SBC network! :-)I do worry what the phone
company will do but I am nearly making as much off of wireless now as I
am off the ILEC copper so in a year or so I could snip snip the little
copper
John Scrivner wrote:
I am not too concerned. It is only about $40K a month in recurring
monthly revenues off the SBC network! :-)I do worry what the phone
company will do but I am nearly making as much off of wireless now as I
am off the ILEC copper so in a year or so I could snip snip
Title: VoIP - 2006
OOPS!
I allowed this post to flow through my moderation. I dont speak Spanish (very good) so I
thought it was a reply to a post. I
normally would not have allowed a post like this through.
Respectfully,
Rick
Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless,
AM
To: 'WISPA
General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] VoIP -
Alternativa para Redução de Custos em Telecomunicações
OOPS! I allowed this post to flow through
my moderation. I dont speak Spanish (very good) so I thought it was a
reply to a post. I normally would not have allowed a post like
Marlon started it. He brought the bottle of whiskey! This is a good
point though. Those brainstorming sessions face to face are hard to beat
at any price. Much is learned and shared by all in a very short time span.
:-)
Scriv
I suspect the next show I attend - - there will be a major
Hiya Jon,
Glad to see you are finally off of that Prozac stuff! grin
I'll step (not too far) out on a limb and assume you are talking about
*this* know it all as one of those you are obviously tired of.
Let me see if I can address your points one at a time. More below
Marlon
(509)
? Anyone?
jp
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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP
Hiya Jon,
Glad to see you are finally off of that Prozac
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
I have a sub that says his VOIP goes to crap when I limit upload to
128k. Does VOIP need more than that?
Brian
g.711 needs 64k plus signalling, so it can be around 128k. The problem
is more lilkely that the 128k limit just drops packets rather than
queuing them.
Wow, killer rant. :)
I loved WiNog 1, the only one I've ever been to, but a one man band like
me can't go from Michigan to Utah for that long.
Brian
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
Dang Jon, tell us how you REALLY feel!
FWIW, going to trade shows has made a HUGE difference in how I have
been
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