Re: [WISPA] strange mt issue

2007-02-24 Thread rabbtux rabbtux

Reminds me of what happened when I took the backup file from a
routerboard and tried to restore it on a new X86 board(WRAP).  It did
something very similar, and rendered my CF inoperable! (there goes my
$40!).

On 2/23/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,

OK, this is really strange.

Picked up a new MT ide drive card and 4 port nic card to use as a backup
router.

Put the unit in the pc and it stops at loading E.

OK, bad unit.

Took it back to Spokane and Bob K. put that unit into a machine he'd been
working on.  Even worse problem for him.  Hm.

So in goes another chip to make sure that it's not a puter problem.  THAT
one now won't work either.  It had been one he'd already been using.

Use a new machine, load up a new ide chip for me.  I saw him do it.

Take that one home, put it in the pc, same thing!  Loading E.

Put it into another machine, won't work there either.

Hook up a hard drive to the port, that won't boot.

4 machines and 4 hard drives later i still don't have a config that works!
Put that ide chip in any pc and it kills the ide port.

What the $%# over?  Anyone seen anything like this before?

Bob tells me that nothing he puts in the machine that worked before I got
there will work now either.

Could that first machine of mine had some kind of bios virus that has now
spread to all other boxes?

The machine was my old mail server, a working pull used up till a few months
ago.

The next machine was my old mt router, a working pull sitting on the shelf
for over a year (it had flaked out so I replaced the whole thing and tossed
the chip).

The next machine was my old web server (all three the same hardware bought
at the same time as i recall).

The last machine was an old windows server or something.  Don't ever
remember for sure.  It has two scsi drives in it, that's the only thing
that'll still boot.  But only to the two scsi drives, nothing ide.

Ideas
thanks,
marlon

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RE: [WISPA] strange mt issue

2007-02-24 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
The machine might not be able to identify the card right, and screws it up
upon access it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:09 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] strange mt issue

Hi All,

OK, this is really strange.

Picked up a new MT ide drive card and 4 port nic card to use as a backup 
router.

Put the unit in the pc and it stops at loading E.

OK, bad unit.

Took it back to Spokane and Bob K. put that unit into a machine he'd been 
working on.  Even worse problem for him.  Hm.

So in goes another chip to make sure that it's not a puter problem.  THAT 
one now won't work either.  It had been one he'd already been using.

Use a new machine, load up a new ide chip for me.  I saw him do it.

Take that one home, put it in the pc, same thing!  Loading E.

Put it into another machine, won't work there either.

Hook up a hard drive to the port, that won't boot.

4 machines and 4 hard drives later i still don't have a config that works! 
Put that ide chip in any pc and it kills the ide port.

What the $%# over?  Anyone seen anything like this before?

Bob tells me that nothing he puts in the machine that worked before I got 
there will work now either.

Could that first machine of mine had some kind of bios virus that has now 
spread to all other boxes?

The machine was my old mail server, a working pull used up till a few months

ago.

The next machine was my old mt router, a working pull sitting on the shelf 
for over a year (it had flaked out so I replaced the whole thing and tossed 
the chip).

The next machine was my old web server (all three the same hardware bought 
at the same time as i recall).

The last machine was an old windows server or something.  Don't ever 
remember for sure.  It has two scsi drives in it, that's the only thing 
that'll still boot.  But only to the two scsi drives, nothing ide.

Ideas
thanks,
marlon

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Re: [WISPA] strange mt issue

2007-02-24 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
But why would that mess up the card?  Especially when the machine had been 
used as an mt router before?


And why would it then also be unable to work with any other drives 
installed?


marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:30 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] strange mt issue



The machine might not be able to identify the card right, and screws it up
upon access it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:09 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] strange mt issue

Hi All,

OK, this is really strange.

Picked up a new MT ide drive card and 4 port nic card to use as a backup
router.

Put the unit in the pc and it stops at loading E.

OK, bad unit.

Took it back to Spokane and Bob K. put that unit into a machine he'd been
working on.  Even worse problem for him.  Hm.

So in goes another chip to make sure that it's not a puter problem.  THAT
one now won't work either.  It had been one he'd already been using.

Use a new machine, load up a new ide chip for me.  I saw him do it.

Take that one home, put it in the pc, same thing!  Loading E.

Put it into another machine, won't work there either.

Hook up a hard drive to the port, that won't boot.

4 machines and 4 hard drives later i still don't have a config that works!
Put that ide chip in any pc and it kills the ide port.

What the $%# over?  Anyone seen anything like this before?

Bob tells me that nothing he puts in the machine that worked before I got
there will work now either.

Could that first machine of mine had some kind of bios virus that has now
spread to all other boxes?

The machine was my old mail server, a working pull used up till a few 
months


ago.

The next machine was my old mt router, a working pull sitting on the shelf
for over a year (it had flaked out so I replaced the whole thing and 
tossed

the chip).

The next machine was my old web server (all three the same hardware bought
at the same time as i recall).

The last machine was an old windows server or something.  Don't ever
remember for sure.  It has two scsi drives in it, that's the only thing
that'll still boot.  But only to the two scsi drives, nothing ide.

Ideas
thanks,
marlon

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RE: [WISPA] strange mt issue

2007-02-24 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
The example I am thinking of is back when they had loaders for HDs bigger
than whatever size it was.  Basically, the bios is INCORRECTLY identifying
the sectors, etc, on the drive, and sure it works to start, but after it
gets so far and the sectors or something is messed up, it basically trashes
the data on the drive, cause it don't know how to read and write correctly.


Just a hunch, maybe something like LBA mode, or something.  Try to get the
specs for the IDE drive, i.e. sectors, and all the other data, and put that
in manually, see if it will pull up then.

Dennis


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:59 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] strange mt issue

But why would that mess up the card?  Especially when the machine had been 
used as an mt router before?

And why would it then also be unable to work with any other drives 
installed?

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:30 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] strange mt issue


 The machine might not be able to identify the card right, and screws it up
 upon access it.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:09 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] strange mt issue

 Hi All,

 OK, this is really strange.

 Picked up a new MT ide drive card and 4 port nic card to use as a backup
 router.

 Put the unit in the pc and it stops at loading E.

 OK, bad unit.

 Took it back to Spokane and Bob K. put that unit into a machine he'd been
 working on.  Even worse problem for him.  Hm.

 So in goes another chip to make sure that it's not a puter problem.  THAT
 one now won't work either.  It had been one he'd already been using.

 Use a new machine, load up a new ide chip for me.  I saw him do it.

 Take that one home, put it in the pc, same thing!  Loading E.

 Put it into another machine, won't work there either.

 Hook up a hard drive to the port, that won't boot.

 4 machines and 4 hard drives later i still don't have a config that works!
 Put that ide chip in any pc and it kills the ide port.

 What the $%# over?  Anyone seen anything like this before?

 Bob tells me that nothing he puts in the machine that worked before I got
 there will work now either.

 Could that first machine of mine had some kind of bios virus that has now
 spread to all other boxes?

 The machine was my old mail server, a working pull used up till a few 
 months

 ago.

 The next machine was my old mt router, a working pull sitting on the shelf
 for over a year (it had flaked out so I replaced the whole thing and 
 tossed
 the chip).

 The next machine was my old web server (all three the same hardware bought
 at the same time as i recall).

 The last machine was an old windows server or something.  Don't ever
 remember for sure.  It has two scsi drives in it, that's the only thing
 that'll still boot.  But only to the two scsi drives, nothing ide.

 Ideas
 thanks,
 marlon

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