Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Jeff Evans]

http://www.xpresstags.com/Plastic-Tags/Caution-Fiber-Optic-Cable/SKU-TG-1295.aspx?engine=googlebase=Plastic+PVC+Tags=TG-1295-TG-1295=Cj0KEQjw0rm-BRCn85bm8uS-zK0BEiQAHo4vrFzu32MXpASP3TP90zclv7I4q3ivqLsA-r7A2XrvCdgaAmii8P8HAQ

http://www.almetek.com/our-products/our-products/phase-markers


On 9/6/2016 9:54 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:
I consider myself a decent google searcher :)   Unable to find what I 
am looking for (just tried again adding uline to the criteria).
I may have to post to fiber list I think its more tailored to their 
industry...

*Scott Carullo*
Technical Operations
Florida High Speed Internet
(321) 205-1100 x102
<http://twitter.com/flhsi>
<https://twitter.com/flhsi><https://facebook.com/flhighspeed>

*From*: "Jeff Evans" <jev...@pennwisp.com>
*Sent*: Friday, September 02, 2016 5:30 PM
*To*: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around 
cable

Uline, dumb phone.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message 
From: Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com>
Date: 9/2/16 4:21 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable
Urine, Google cable tags or labels there's hundreds of them
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message 
From: Scott Reed <sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com>
Date: 9/2/16 4:04 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: sc...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

I would expect Panduit does similar.  Check with your local electrical 
supply house.


On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around cable up 
to that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The plastic flexes 
and they can be used outside.  Who uses them and where do you get 
them from etc having hard time locating what I want.

Like this - just need a little smaller
http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
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Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Scott Carullo]

I consider myself a decent google searcher :)   Unable to find what I am 
looking for (just tried again adding uline to the criteria).
  
 I may have to post to fiber list I think its more tailored to their 
industry...
  
   Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 Florida High Speed Internet
 (321) 205-1100 x102

  

  
  

  


 From: "Jeff Evans" <jev...@pennwisp.com>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 5:30 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable  
 
 Uline, dumb phone.
  
  
  
  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

  
   Original message 
 From: Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com>
 Date: 9/2/16 4:21 PM (GMT-05:00)
 To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around 
cable
  

 Urine, Google cable tags or labels there's hundreds of them
  
  
  
  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

  
   Original message 
 From: Scott Reed <sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com>
 Date: 9/2/16 4:04 PM (GMT-05:00)
 To: sc...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around 
cable
  

I would expect Panduit does similar.  Check with your local electrical 
supply house.On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
  maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around cable up to 
that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The plastic flexes and they 
can be used outside.  Who uses them and where do you get them from etc 
having hard time locating what I want.
  
 Like this - just need a little smaller
  
 http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
 Scott Carullo
   Technical Operations
   Florida High Speed Internet
   (321) 205-1100 x102








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Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Jeff Evans]

Uline, dumb phone.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com> Date: 
9/2/16  4:21 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable 
Urine, Google cable tags or labels there's hundreds of them


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Scott Reed 
<sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com> Date: 9/2/16  4:04 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
sc...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 
Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable 

I would expect Panduit does similar.  Check with your local
  electrical supply house.




On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo
  wrote:



maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around
  cable up to that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The
  plastic flexes and they can be used outside.  Who uses them
  and where do you get them from etc having hard time locating
  what I want.
 
Like this - just need a little smaller
 
http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
 
  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  Florida High Speed Internet
  (321) 205-1100 x102
  
   
  
   
   

  
  

  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Jeff Evans]

Urine, Google cable tags or labels there's hundreds of them


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Scott Reed 
<sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com> Date: 9/2/16  4:04 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
sc...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 
Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable 

I would expect Panduit does similar.  Check with your local
  electrical supply house.




On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo
  wrote:



maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around
  cable up to that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The
  plastic flexes and they can be used outside.  Who uses them
  and where do you get them from etc having hard time locating
  what I want.
 
Like this - just need a little smaller
 
http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
 
  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  Florida High Speed Internet
  (321) 205-1100 x102
  
   
  
   
   

  
  

  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Scott Reed]

I would expect Panduit does similar.  Check with your local electrical 
supply house.



On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around cable up to 
that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The plastic flexes and 
they can be used outside.  Who uses them and where do you get them 
from etc having hard time locating what I want.

Like this - just need a little smaller
http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
*Scott Carullo*
Technical Operations
Florida High Speed Internet
(321) 205-1100 x102




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Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

[Eric Rogers]

We use the Fluke Microscanner2 as it will allow PoE and will test
without the other end being on.  You can see cable length, PoE, and if
there is a switch/Ethernet at the other end.

 

Eric Rogers

Precision Data Solutions, LLC

(317) 831-3000 x200

 

 

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Behalf Of Mark Spring
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Cable Testers

 

can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have
had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but
apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper
from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke
makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more than
economical. 

Thanks,



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Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

[Jay Weekley]

What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself.

Mark Spring wrote:
 can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have 
 had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but 
 apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper 
 from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke 
 makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more 
 than economical.

 Thanks,

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 Systems Analyst

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 301 W. South St.
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

[Josh Luthman]

I use a simple media tester.  It checks to make sure all the pairs have
continuity.  That's it.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net wrote:

 basic wire testing, anything more advanced would be a bonus so we are just
 weighing cost options to see if it would be worth the upgrade to get
 additional features. Maybe Ubiquiti should develop a meter that replaces
 the microscanner2(it looks looks nice) for 1/4 the price...i'd wait two
 years for that!

 Mark Spring
 Systems Analyst

 New Knoxville Telephone Company
 301 W. South St.
 New Knoxville, OH 45871
 419.753.5000

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 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jay Weekley 
 par...@cyberbroadband.netwrote:

 What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself.

 Mark Spring wrote:
  can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have
  had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but
  apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper
  from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke
  makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more
  than economical.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark Spring
  Systems Analyst
 
  New Knoxville Telephone Company
  301 W. South St.
  New Knoxville, OH 45871
  419.753.5000
 
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

[Mark Spring]

basic wire testing, anything more advanced would be a bonus so we are just
weighing cost options to see if it would be worth the upgrade to get
additional features. Maybe Ubiquiti should develop a meter that replaces
the microscanner2(it looks looks nice) for 1/4 the price...i'd wait two
years for that!

Mark Spring
Systems Analyst

New Knoxville Telephone Company
301 W. South St.
New Knoxville, OH 45871
419.753.5000

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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.netwrote:

 What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself.

 Mark Spring wrote:
  can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have
  had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but
  apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper
  from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke
  makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more
  than economical.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark Spring
  Systems Analyst
 
  New Knoxville Telephone Company
  301 W. South St.
  New Knoxville, OH 45871
  419.753.5000
 
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

[Faisal Imtiaz]

If you are not looking to certify cable or for anything fancy, to check 
continuity, wire map, and cable length . 

Search of SC8108 on ebay These are in-expensive and get the job done. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet  Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -

 From: Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:11:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

 basic wire testing, anything more advanced would be a bonus so we are just
 weighing cost options to see if it would be worth the upgrade to get
 additional features. Maybe Ubiquiti should develop a meter that replaces the
 microscanner2(it looks looks nice) for 1/4 the price...i'd wait two years
 for that!

 Mark Spring
 Systems Analyst

 New Knoxville Telephone Company
 301 W. South St.
 New Knoxville, OH 45871
 419.753.5000

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 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jay Weekley  par...@cyberbroadband.net 
 wrote:

  What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself.
 

  Mark Spring wrote:
 
   can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have
 
   had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but
 
   apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper
 
   from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke
 
   makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more
 
   than economical.
 
  
 
   Thanks,
 
  
 
   Mark Spring
 
   Systems Analyst
 
  
 
   New Knoxville Telephone Company
 
   301 W. South St.
 
   New Knoxville, OH 45871
 
   419.753.5000
 
  
 
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Re: [WISPA] Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal, , Read more: Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-compa

[Gino Villarini]

Wifi is wifi is wifi...

2.4 and 5 ghz

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal, , Read 
more: Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal - FierceWireless 
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-companies-agree-nationwide-wi-fi-roaming-deal/2012-05-21?utm_...




http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-companies-agree-nationwide-wi-fi-roaming-deal/2012-05-21?utm_medium=rssutm_source=rss

anybody can comment on this?

is it real 2.4Ghz or some form of licensed-picocell ?

Thank you


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Re: [WISPA] Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal, , Read more: Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-compa

[Ralph]

I have been involved with this for a while.

It is simply Muni WiFi, but owned/operated/funded by the local cableco.
The cable companies have been stringing up strand-powered APs for a few
years along some of their routes. In underground areas they have some that
are mounted below the surface with the antenna mounted flat under the cover
to the enclosure.  Most of the rest look like cable amplifiers with a couple
of short (6) white plastic antennas. Some companies are using Cisco gear,
like the model 1522 but Bel Air Networks is Comcast's choice.  Comcast has
Philly done.  Optimum Cable and Time Warner have done lots of NY and NJ.
All this says is that, since cablecos are really not competitors in the same
market, why the heck not make a deal where they add each other's SSIDs on
all the networks.

The hope is that they will get lots of money for cellular offload of data
from phones over WiFi as the cell companies strike deals with the cablecos.
When I have tried the NY/NJ systems, I can use my Comcast cable login from
back in Georgia and I get around 1-7 Mb/S.  

For WISPS, the downside of this is that there are hundreds, if not thousands
of WiFi devices located at street level, most running maximum power and
transmitting on 2.4 and 5.7 GHz, thus raising the noise floor to tremendous
levels.  One project I am working on is a City surveillance camera network
and the noise from these now has the noise level on my rooftops up to
between -80 and -87 and any backhaul that was on 5.8 now is faced with worse
noise than that in the direction the dish is pointed.

ralph


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Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal, ,
Read more: Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal -
FierceWireless
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-companies-agree-nationwide-wi-fi-r
oaming-deal/2012-05-21?utm_med




http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-companies-agree-nationwide-wi-fi-r
oaming-deal/2012-05-21?utm_medium=rssutm_source=rss

anybody can comment on this?

is it real 2.4Ghz or some form of licensed-picocell ?

Thank you


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Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS

[Chris Gotstein]

You can also look at the Arris C3 CMTS, it's EOL'd, but you can get them 
refurbished.  I would also stick with Cisco if you can make it work, the 
uBR7246 is pretty reasonable on the refurb market.

On 11/8/2011 7:13 PM, Kevin Owen wrote:
 I think we would like the Cisco better as well… however I don’t believe
 they can bridge for the pppoe passthrough.  If they can then we will
 re-evaluate.

 Kevin

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Blake Covarrubias
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:09 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS

 We have an older C9...one of the first models I believe. We had issues
 with it  have since replaced it with a refurbished Cisco uBR7200. We
 like the Cisco much better.

 --

 Blake Covarrubias


 On Nov 8, 2011, at 14:49, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com
 mailto:ko...@fsr.com wrote:

 We are expanding our cable internet markets by acquisition. We are
 currently using C9 CMTS’s at the head end in each community. We
 chose these since we need to be able to bridge PPPoE for
 authentication. None of the communities are very large so we don’t
 need high customer count capabilities on the CMTS, what we do need
 is bridging.

 Is anybody using a small CMTS for their cable internet services
 other than a C9? We would be interested in exploring other options.

 Thanks,


 Kevin



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS

[Blake Covarrubias]

We have an older C9...one of the first models I believe. We had issues with it 
 have since replaced it with a refurbished Cisco uBR7200. We like the Cisco 
much better.

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On Nov 8, 2011, at 14:49, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com wrote:

 We are expanding our cable internet markets by acquisition.  We are currently 
 using C9 CMTS’s at the head end in each community.  We chose these since we 
 need to be able to bridge PPPoE for authentication.  None of the communities 
 are very large so we don’t need high customer count capabilities on the CMTS, 
 what we do need is bridging. 
  
 Is anybody using a small CMTS for their cable internet services other than a 
 C9?  We would be interested in exploring other options.
  
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS

[Kevin Owen]

I think we would like the Cisco better as well… however I don’t believe they 
can bridge for the pppoe passthrough.  If they can then we will re-evaluate.

Kevin


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Blake Covarrubias
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS

We have an older C9...one of the first models I believe. We had issues with it 
 have since replaced it with a refurbished Cisco uBR7200. We like the Cisco 
much better.

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On Nov 8, 2011, at 14:49, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.commailto:ko...@fsr.com 
wrote:
We are expanding our cable internet markets by acquisition.  We are currently 
using C9 CMTS’s at the head end in each community.  We chose these since we 
need to be able to bridge PPPoE for authentication.  None of the communities 
are very large so we don’t need high customer count capabilities on the CMTS, 
what we do need is bridging.

Is anybody using a small CMTS for their cable internet services other than a 
C9?  We would be interested in exploring other options.

Thanks,

Kevin




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Re: [WISPA] Cable Modem Install's

[Josh Luthman]

Good information, surprisingly, here:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080201071706AAUxIfs

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

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On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:51 PM, 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pardon my ignorance. but I am coming across the first time I will have to
 do
 a coax cable install across a building to install a modem (by customer
 request).  I've actually been fortunate and never had to mess with cable TV
 type installations (done plenty of LMR-400 coax work.)



 Cable termination will be on the bottom floor of a building.  To
 consolidate
 equipment with the wireless gear, customer wants me to run coax from that
 box to the cabinet with the other switches, etc. in it.  I'm not sure what
 the cable length is at the moment, but what is the max cable length of RG-6
 or RG-11 for broadband internet?  What if I use an amp?



 Any other sage advice would be welcome!

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Re: [WISPA] Cable Modem Install's

[D. Ryan Spott]

Does anyone here whitelabel VOX service?

I would like to test out a phone. Can I pay someone here for service for 
a bit?

Thanks!

ryan

Josh Luthman wrote:
 Good information, surprisingly, here:

 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080201071706AAUxIfs

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 --- Henry Spencer


 On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:51 PM, 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Pardon my ignorance. but I am coming across the first time I will have to
 do
 a coax cable install across a building to install a modem (by customer
 request).  I've actually been fortunate and never had to mess with cable TV
 type installations (done plenty of LMR-400 coax work.)



 Cable termination will be on the bottom floor of a building.  To
 consolidate
 equipment with the wireless gear, customer wants me to run coax from that
 box to the cabinet with the other switches, etc. in it.  I'm not sure what
 the cable length is at the moment, but what is the max cable length of RG-6
 or RG-11 for broadband internet?  What if I use an amp?



 Any other sage advice would be welcome!

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 3-dB Networks






 
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Re: [WISPA] cable throughput

[Mike Hammett]

They'd have a lot more bandwidth available for Internet and HD if they 
abandoned their analog services.  There are also more aggressive MPEG4 
systems out there that produce high quality images with less bandwidth being 
used by IPTV companies.


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- Original Message - 
From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: [WISPA] cable throughput


 It's interesting to me that the cable companies who at present have some
 of the fastest available consumer broadband speeds are actually shooting
 themselves in the foot by giving the bandwidth to cable modems, but at
 the same time running out of space for their  tv programming.

 Here's a decent article talking about HD and the complaints from it's
 customers.
 Notice the amount of bandwidth to deliver some HD channels.

 snip/
 For example, Discovery's bit rate was 14.16 megabits per second on
 Verizon's FiOS system but only 10.43 Mbps on Comcast; AE HD was 18.66
 Mbps on FiOS compared with 14.48 Mbps on Comcast. The FiOS system didn't
 offer Sci Fi HD, which Fowler's testing showed at 12.59 Mbps on Comcast.

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Re: [WISPA] cable throughput

[Chuck McCown]

Yes, but don't tell 'em ;-)
They have been in the cat-bird seat all along and have fumbled repeatedly.

When they became CLECs and started selling dial tone, they invented a whole 
new layer to do it rather than adopt ISDN/DS0/IP-VOIP or other pre-existing 
telco methods.  I know telcos that bought CATV systems and actually put 
analog subscriber carrier phone systems on TV channels back in the late 
1970s.

And then they didn't pick up on long distance packages or equal access or 
any of the other features that telco subscribers are used to having.

If I had had a HFC cable system, you can bet FTTH would have been already 
deployed by now.
They cling to the technology that is unique to only CATV operators and for 
some reason have ignored the natural evolution of all things fiber.
And while they delay FTTH, the RBOCs are going to sail right past them and 
have all physical facilities based customers if they price it right.

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] cable throughput


 They'd have a lot more bandwidth available for Internet and HD if they
 abandoned their analog services.  There are also more aggressive MPEG4
 systems out there that produce high quality images with less bandwidth 
 being
 used by IPTV companies.


 --
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 - Original Message - 
 From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:19 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] cable throughput


 It's interesting to me that the cable companies who at present have some
 of the fastest available consumer broadband speeds are actually shooting
 themselves in the foot by giving the bandwidth to cable modems, but at
 the same time running out of space for their  tv programming.

 Here's a decent article talking about HD and the complaints from it's
 customers.
 Notice the amount of bandwidth to deliver some HD channels.

 snip/
 For example, Discovery's bit rate was 14.16 megabits per second on
 Verizon's FiOS system but only 10.43 Mbps on Comcast; AE HD was 18.66
 Mbps on FiOS compared with 14.48 Mbps on Comcast. The FiOS system didn't
 offer Sci Fi HD, which Fowler's testing showed at 12.59 Mbps on Comcast.

 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080421/ap_on_hi_te/compressed_hd;_ylt=AuEPJDRe3CN7TvgY1hhBuN0jtBAF


 
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Quote

[Marty Dougherty]

Yes about right for riser rated- we use www.fiber.com- 

Don't forget to put lub in the conduit- that's a long run

Marty



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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:16 PM
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Does $410 sound about right for this?

Fiber Jumper, 2-Count, Multi Mode, LC Connectors on both ends, 700'
Length, Price ea  *Includes Pulling Eye  Spool


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Re: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution

[Mark Nash]

If they're only going to use 1 CMTS then you must get wireless links that 
shoot video, which will pretty much kill any IP wireless links in the area 
running on the same channel.


A CMTS usually must have a management server for provisioning  management, 
so you could buy several cheaper CMTSs (I purchased a used Nortel/Arris 
CMTS1000 years ago and it's never had a hiccup) and place them at each site, 
linking them to the management server via wireless links.


I've also investingated DOCSIS wireless radios (they'll just do the data 
part).


The problem with all this is if you don't have some kind of circuits (wired 
or wireless) between the sites, then you'll have to have feeds for all the 
channels you're going to provide at each location.  Depending on mileage, 
you may be able to use dry copper circuits.  I know that some of this can be 
done over T-1 circuits, but the project I'm involved in didn't go that 
route, so I never spent too much time on it.


Hope this helps.

Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Javier Arigita [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:17 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution



One of my customers is designing a Cable operator network for several
estate areas. They plan to use a Motorola CMTS device to serve those
areas.

The areas are not connected by fiber and the problem they are facing
is the way to extend the CMTS service to those areas. They have think
in PTP radio links but the CMTS devices are not IP, so they should use
1 CMTS for each area and that is very expensive.

Is there any way to extend the CMTS coverage to this areas by using
PTP IP radio links?

Many Thanks,

Javier


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Re: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution

[Allen Yu]

The Motorola PTP 600 radio support both Ethernet and T1 interface. Not sure
which CMTS you are refer to, but the compact CMTS/Router does have Ethernet
interface, does that combination will work?

Regards

Allen


On 9/25/07, Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If they're only going to use 1 CMTS then you must get wireless links that
 shoot video, which will pretty much kill any IP wireless links in the area
 running on the same channel.

 A CMTS usually must have a management server for provisioning 
 management,
 so you could buy several cheaper CMTSs (I purchased a used Nortel/Arris
 CMTS1000 years ago and it's never had a hiccup) and place them at each
 site,
 linking them to the management server via wireless links.

 I've also investingated DOCSIS wireless radios (they'll just do the data
 part).

 The problem with all this is if you don't have some kind of circuits
 (wired
 or wireless) between the sites, then you'll have to have feeds for all the
 channels you're going to provide at each location.  Depending on mileage,
 you may be able to use dry copper circuits.  I know that some of this can
 be
 done over T-1 circuits, but the project I'm involved in didn't go that
 route, so I never spent too much time on it.

 Hope this helps.

 Mark Nash
 UnwiredOnline
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax

 - Original Message -
 From: Javier Arigita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:17 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution


  One of my customers is designing a Cable operator network for several
  estate areas. They plan to use a Motorola CMTS device to serve those
  areas.
 
  The areas are not connected by fiber and the problem they are facing
  is the way to extend the CMTS service to those areas. They have think
  in PTP radio links but the CMTS devices are not IP, so they should use
  1 CMTS for each area and that is very expensive.
 
  Is there any way to extend the CMTS coverage to this areas by using
  PTP IP radio links?
 
  Many Thanks,
 
  Javier
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution

[Javier Arigita]

The CMTS does have ethernet interface. The problem is the distribution
of the video data and voice. The CMTS seem to have an IF (intermediate
frecuency) interfaces and coaxial interfaces.

The IF if is meant to transmit the CMTS signal over wireless links
(not IP ones of course), the coax ifs do the same over coax lines.

I would like to transmit that signal using IP wireless links (such
as Alv B100 or whatever) to other areas. If we do not manage to do
that we will have to install one CMTS for each area and that is really
expensive.

Many Thanks for your responses. If you have any other clue on how to
solve this please let me know.

On 9/25/07, Allen Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Motorola PTP 600 radio support both Ethernet and T1 interface. Not sure
 which CMTS you are refer to, but the compact CMTS/Router does have Ethernet
 interface, does that combination will work?

 Regards

 Allen


 On 9/25/07, Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If they're only going to use 1 CMTS then you must get wireless links that
  shoot video, which will pretty much kill any IP wireless links in the area
  running on the same channel.
 
  A CMTS usually must have a management server for provisioning 
  management,
  so you could buy several cheaper CMTSs (I purchased a used Nortel/Arris
  CMTS1000 years ago and it's never had a hiccup) and place them at each
  site,
  linking them to the management server via wireless links.
 
  I've also investingated DOCSIS wireless radios (they'll just do the data
  part).
 
  The problem with all this is if you don't have some kind of circuits
  (wired
  or wireless) between the sites, then you'll have to have feeds for all the
  channels you're going to provide at each location.  Depending on mileage,
  you may be able to use dry copper circuits.  I know that some of this can
  be
  done over T-1 circuits, but the project I'm involved in didn't go that
  route, so I never spent too much time on it.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
  Mark Nash
  UnwiredOnline
  350 Holly Street
  Junction City, OR 97448
  http://www.uwol.net
  541-998-
  541-998-5599 fax
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Javier Arigita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:17 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution
 
 
   One of my customers is designing a Cable operator network for several
   estate areas. They plan to use a Motorola CMTS device to serve those
   areas.
  
   The areas are not connected by fiber and the problem they are facing
   is the way to extend the CMTS service to those areas. They have think
   in PTP radio links but the CMTS devices are not IP, so they should use
   1 CMTS for each area and that is very expensive.
  
   Is there any way to extend the CMTS coverage to this areas by using
   PTP IP radio links?
  
   Many Thanks,
  
   Javier
  
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution

[Clint Ricker]

Javier,
If I'm understanding the question correctly, which is basically Can I
send DOCSIS over IP networks (wireless or otherwise), the answer is
no.

If you think about it in terms of OSI model, it will become a little
clearer--the CMTS use a QAM to read the RF signal and pull the
Ethernet frames (this is layer one / layer two); your basically asking
if that information can be encapsulated inside of a layer-3 IP packet
(and the answer is no).

There are DOCSIS over wireless solutions (look at various wireless
plant extensions for more detail) that basically shove the RF out
over wireless instead of out the HFC plant, but that doesn't seem to
be what you're looking for...

What problem are you trying to solve?  I'm assuming there is some
reason why you aren't just using IP wireless links directly to the
customers

-Clint Ricker
Kentnis Technologies






On 9/25/07, Javier Arigita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The CMTS does have ethernet interface. The problem is the distribution
 of the video data and voice. The CMTS seem to have an IF (intermediate
 frecuency) interfaces and coaxial interfaces.

 The IF if is meant to transmit the CMTS signal over wireless links
 (not IP ones of course), the coax ifs do the same over coax lines.

 I would like to transmit that signal using IP wireless links (such
 as Alv B100 or whatever) to other areas. If we do not manage to do
 that we will have to install one CMTS for each area and that is really
 expensive.

 Many Thanks for your responses. If you have any other clue on how to
 solve this please let me know.

 On 9/25/07, Allen Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The Motorola PTP 600 radio support both Ethernet and T1 interface. Not sure
  which CMTS you are refer to, but the compact CMTS/Router does have Ethernet
  interface, does that combination will work?
 
  Regards
 
  Allen
 
 
  On 9/25/07, Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   If they're only going to use 1 CMTS then you must get wireless links that
   shoot video, which will pretty much kill any IP wireless links in the area
   running on the same channel.
  
   A CMTS usually must have a management server for provisioning 
   management,
   so you could buy several cheaper CMTSs (I purchased a used Nortel/Arris
   CMTS1000 years ago and it's never had a hiccup) and place them at each
   site,
   linking them to the management server via wireless links.
  
   I've also investingated DOCSIS wireless radios (they'll just do the data
   part).
  
   The problem with all this is if you don't have some kind of circuits
   (wired
   or wireless) between the sites, then you'll have to have feeds for all the
   channels you're going to provide at each location.  Depending on mileage,
   you may be able to use dry copper circuits.  I know that some of this can
   be
   done over T-1 circuits, but the project I'm involved in didn't go that
   route, so I never spent too much time on it.
  
   Hope this helps.
  
   Mark Nash
   UnwiredOnline
   350 Holly Street
   Junction City, OR 97448
   http://www.uwol.net
   541-998-
   541-998-5599 fax
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Javier Arigita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: wireless@wispa.org
   Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:17 AM
   Subject: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution
  
  
One of my customers is designing a Cable operator network for several
estate areas. They plan to use a Motorola CMTS device to serve those
areas.
   
The areas are not connected by fiber and the problem they are facing
is the way to extend the CMTS service to those areas. They have think
in PTP radio links but the CMTS devices are not IP, so they should use
1 CMTS for each area and that is very expensive.
   
Is there any way to extend the CMTS coverage to this areas by using
PTP IP radio links?
   
Many Thanks,
   
Javier
   
   
   
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Re: [WISPA] Cable

[Tom DeReggi]

but it should be nonconductive


Yes, so it doesn't short out.
But non-conductive also means that if it ooses between pins it prevents 
conductivity. Thus causing Ethernet Connection to intermittently 
temporarilly fail, until you pull them out and clean them.  Of course there 
are best practices like Drip loops. But it can still finds a way to creep up 
the cable in some situations.


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RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
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- Original Message - 
From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Cable



I agree the oozing gel can be a mess, but it should be nonconductive and
have no adverse effects to an Ethernet port.

Years ago I found an eight port Netgear switch nearly flooded with the 
oozed

gel mess.  Didn't seem to affect it in the least.

Best,


Brad


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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable

Definately call Shireen, (www.allrfcables.com)
He stocks the non-gel cable that is a replacement/equivelent for 
ArcWireless


type.
(sometimes he has it with Gel)
We use it for most of our outdoor installs, its been working well.

On a side note, as policy we now prefer to select non-Gell Filled. We 
found

it unnecessary (If actually not burying cable in ground), because the gel
usually just ended up oosing out over time causing failure of Ethernet
connectors, or a mess dripping inside premise at terminations.  Basically 
we


predict that radio solutions without gel-filled would end up with a longer
life without maintenance using non-gel filled.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Cable



I have been using an outdoor, shielded, flooded, with drain wire cat5e
cable from Arc Wireless/Winncom for all my outdoor work and have had great
luck with it.

Now, it appears this cable is no longer available.  I'm looking for a
replacement.

While I'd prefer the same cable, I'd be able to live with a non-flooded
version.

Any recommendations?  I'm running out of cable here!


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Re: [WISPA] Cable

[Tom DeReggi]

Definately call Shireen, (www.allrfcables.com)
He stocks the non-gel cable that is a replacement/equivelent for ArcWireless 
type.

(sometimes he has it with Gel)
We use it for most of our outdoor installs, its been working well.

On a side note, as policy we now prefer to select non-Gell Filled. We found 
it unnecessary (If actually not burying cable in ground), because the gel 
usually just ended up oosing out over time causing failure of Ethernet 
connectors, or a mess dripping inside premise at terminations.  Basically we 
predict that radio solutions without gel-filled would end up with a longer 
life without maintenance using non-gel filled.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Cable


I have been using an outdoor, shielded, flooded, with drain wire cat5e 
cable from Arc Wireless/Winncom for all my outdoor work and have had great 
luck with it.


Now, it appears this cable is no longer available.  I'm looking for a 
replacement.


While I'd prefer the same cable, I'd be able to live with a non-flooded 
version.


Any recommendations?  I'm running out of cable here!


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RE: [WISPA] Cable

[Brad Belton]

I agree the oozing gel can be a mess, but it should be nonconductive and
have no adverse effects to an Ethernet port.

Years ago I found an eight port Netgear switch nearly flooded with the oozed
gel mess.  Didn't seem to affect it in the least.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable

Definately call Shireen, (www.allrfcables.com)
He stocks the non-gel cable that is a replacement/equivelent for ArcWireless

type.
(sometimes he has it with Gel)
We use it for most of our outdoor installs, its been working well.

On a side note, as policy we now prefer to select non-Gell Filled. We found 
it unnecessary (If actually not burying cable in ground), because the gel 
usually just ended up oosing out over time causing failure of Ethernet 
connectors, or a mess dripping inside premise at terminations.  Basically we

predict that radio solutions without gel-filled would end up with a longer 
life without maintenance using non-gel filled.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Cable


I have been using an outdoor, shielded, flooded, with drain wire cat5e 
cable from Arc Wireless/Winncom for all my outdoor work and have had great 
luck with it.

 Now, it appears this cable is no longer available.  I'm looking for a 
 replacement.

 While I'd prefer the same cable, I'd be able to live with a non-flooded 
 version.

 Any recommendations?  I'm running out of cable here!


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Re: [WISPA] Cable right of entry

[Ryan Spott]

chris cooper wrote:

  
  
   I have a marketing exclusive with an MTU for
broadband. The cable sales folks keep showing up soliciting new
business
for their phone/broadband/video offering. Property mgmt. has been
telling
the cable reps that they do not have rights to solicit, only install on
his
premises. Their isnt a valid contract between MTU and Cable Co. Cable
mgmt. keeps spouting off about right of entry. I always thought this
gave
them the right enter to install or make service calls, period. Can
someone give
me the text book definition of right of entry? 
  

Along these same lines

I keep seeing all sorts of new neighborhood development in my area.
They subdivide large lots and place houses on each. The infrastructure
includes 1.5-2 inch conduit for the local phone company, but they do
not pay to put it in. 

My question is, who owns that conduit? Does the local *LEC own it or do
they only own the wires inside?

If I could get access to that conduit.. 


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Re: [WISPA] Cable....

[Ron Wallace]

Blair,
I have a spool, non flooded, STP, 5e, Beldin 7919a or 7929A, just got it. won't need for a while, cost me 349, you can have it for 300. I will be going to Michigan City tomorrow, couldswing by Allegan and drop it off.
ron wallace
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-Original Message-From: Blair Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2006 02:54 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] CableI need a spool of outdoor, shielded, flooded, with ground or drain wire, cat5 cable.I have been getting it from Arc Wireless, but they will be out of stock until mid April. If it helps, Arc's part number is SW-CAB-108190 for the 1000 ft spool.Anybody got a spool they can spare? Please hit me off list or give me a call at the number belowThanks.--
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Re: [WISPA] cable needs for relief efforts?

[Tim Wolfe]

OK, If You are out there reading this, and You have the crimp on 
connectors(No screw on types please) N male, I could use some. If every 
WISP out there would just send me 6 connectors, I can crank out 3 foot 
jumpers until the cows come home. I have the heat shrink, and I solder 
the center pin and I have enough of that stuff. I just need connectors. 
I was in my truck, and I will have enough ends to make around 12 or so. 
If You have them, my address is as follows:

WaveCrazy Communications
71 Hain Ave
Lebanon PA 17046

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