RE: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid

2006-07-07 Thread JohnnyO
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Travis 
- completely different terrain. I am FLAT here - You have elevation changes that 
keep your fresnel zones clear.

JohnnyO

  
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  Travis JohnsonSent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:29 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 
  2.4ghz GridSome are on mountaintops, some are on 100ft 
  towers. It may be the equipment I am using as well... if you have a 19dbi 
  antenna now, and change to 24dbi, then you should have a -77 signal, which is 
  PLENTY for Trango 2.4ghz (-90 receive level for 1600byte packets and full 
  5Mbps speed). ;)TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: 
  

You always amaze me Travis. Are you using Mountain Tops 
?

JohnnyO

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  On Behalf Of Travis JohnsonSent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 
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  High Gain 2.4ghz GridWe are doing 30+ mile shots with 
  24db grids into 9db omni's. TravisMicroservJohnnyO 
  wrote: 
  

Looking for something with higher gain then 
24dBi for a 12mile shot that we have to do with 2.4ghz. It's Near LOS 
and we're seeing -82 but the tree tops are killing us on packet 
loss.
We currently have a 19dBi tranzeo CPE200 
connecting to a 9dBi Omni. I don't want to amp this shot so that is out 
of the question.
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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid

2006-07-07 Thread Travis Johnson
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That's not true... we have many NLOS connections (curently over 600
running), that's what we use 900mhz for. ;)

Travis
Microserv

JohnnyO wrote:

  
  
  
  Travis - completely different terrain. I am FLAT
here - You have elevation changes that keep your fresnel zones clear.
  
  JohnnyO
  
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid


Some are on mountaintops, some are on 100ft towers. It may be the
equipment I am using as well... if you have a 19dbi antenna now, and
change to 24dbi, then you should have a -77 signal, which is PLENTY for
Trango 2.4ghz (-90 receive level for 1600byte packets and full 5Mbps
speed). ;)

Travis
Microserv


JohnnyO wrote:

  
  You always amaze me Travis. Are you using
Mountain Tops ?
  
  JohnnyO
  
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We are doing 30+ mile shots with 24db grids into 9db omni's. 

Travis
Microserv

JohnnyO wrote:

  

  Looking for something with
higher gain then 24dBi for a 12mile shot that we have to do with
2.4ghz. It's Near LOS and we're seeing -82 but the tree tops are
killing us on packet loss.
  We currently have a 19dBi
tranzeo CPE200 connecting to a 9dBi Omni. I don't want to amp this shot
so that is out of the question.
  JohnnyO 
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid

2006-07-07 Thread Travis Johnson
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Tom,

You forget that even in 30 mile cells I have 1% of the population that
you have in 1 mile cells. ;)

Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:

  
  
  
  
  The ROI you must have with 30 mile
cells and Omnis
  All I can say, is I'm jealous. 
  
  Unfortuneately not a model that
works in MD / DC, even withMountain top cell sites.
  Short range cells are required to
survive the noise floor :-(
  
  Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
  
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid


That's not true... we have many NLOS connections (curently over 600
running), that's what we use 900mhz for. ;)

Travis
Microserv

JohnnyO wrote:

  
  Travis - completely different terrain. I am FLAT
here - You have elevation changes that keep your fresnel zones clear.
  
  JohnnyO
  
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid


Some are on mountaintops, some are on 100ft towers. It may be the
equipment I am using as well... if you have a 19dbi antenna now, and
change to 24dbi, then you should have a -77 signal, which is PLENTY for
Trango 2.4ghz (-90 receive level for 1600byte packets and full 5Mbps
speed). ;)

Travis
Microserv


JohnnyO wrote:

  
  You always amaze me Travis. Are you using
Mountain Tops ?
  
  JohnnyO
  
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We are doing 30+ mile shots with 24db grids into 9db omni's. 

Travis
Microserv

JohnnyO wrote:

  

  Looking for something with
higher gain then 24dBi for a 12mile shot that we have to do with
2.4ghz. It's Near LOS and we're seeing -82 but the tree tops are
killing us on packet loss.
  We currently have a 19dBi
tranzeo CPE200 connecting to a 9dBi Omni. I don't want to amp this shot
so that is out of the question.
  JohnnyO 
  
  
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RE: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid

2006-07-06 Thread JohnnyO
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You 
always amaze me Travis. Are you using Mountain Tops ?

JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
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  Travis JohnsonSent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:41 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 
  2.4ghz GridWe are doing 30+ mile shots with 24db grids 
  into 9db omni's. TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: 
  

Looking for something with higher gain then 24dBi 
for a 12mile shot that we have to do with 2.4ghz. It's Near LOS and we're 
seeing -82 but the tree tops are killing us on packet loss.
We currently have a 19dBi tranzeo CPE200 
connecting to a 9dBi Omni. I don't want to amp this shot so that is out of 
the question.
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RE: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid

2006-07-06 Thread Brad Belton
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No kiddingask him what he gets out
of his 38GHz links. Bastard



Brad



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You always amaze me
Travis. Are you using Mountain Tops ?











JohnnyO





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2.4ghz Grid

We are doing 30+ mile
shots with 24db grids into 9db omni's. 

Travis
Microserv

JohnnyO wrote: 

Looking
for something with higher gain then 24dBi for a 12mile shot that we have to do
with 2.4ghz. It's Near LOS and we're seeing -82 but the tree tops are killing
us on packet loss.

We currently have a 19dBi tranzeo
CPE200 connecting to a 9dBi Omni. I don't want to amp this shot so that is out
of the question.

JohnnyO 



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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid

2006-07-06 Thread Travis Johnson
Title: Message




Some are on mountaintops, some are on 100ft towers. It may be the
equipment I am using as well... if you have a 19dbi antenna now, and
change to 24dbi, then you should have a -77 signal, which is PLENTY for
Trango 2.4ghz (-90 receive level for 1600byte packets and full 5Mbps
speed). ;)

Travis
Microserv


JohnnyO wrote:

  
  
  
  You always amaze me Travis. Are you using
Mountain Tops ?
  
  JohnnyO
  
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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid


We are doing 30+ mile shots with 24db grids into 9db omni's. 

Travis
Microserv

JohnnyO wrote:

  

  Looking for something with higher
gain then 24dBi for a 12mile shot that we have to do with 2.4ghz. It's
Near LOS and we're seeing -82 but the tree tops are killing us on
packet loss.
  We currently have a 19dBi tranzeo
CPE200 connecting to a 9dBi Omni. I don't want to amp this shot so that
is out of the question.
  JohnnyO 
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid

2006-07-06 Thread Travis Johnson
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Is 7 miles really that far? ;)

Travis

Brad Belton wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  No
kiddingask him what he gets out
of his 38GHz links. Bastard
  
  Brad
  
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Of JohnnyO
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List'
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High Gain
2.4ghz Grid
  
  
  You always
amaze me
Travis. Are you using Mountain Tops ?
  
  
  
  
  
  JohnnyO
  
  
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Of Travis Johnson
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06, 2006 4:41
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High Gain
2.4ghz Grid
We are
doing 30+ mile
shots with 24db grids into 9db omni's. 

Travis
Microserv

JohnnyO wrote: 
Looking
for something with higher gain then 24dBi for a 12mile shot that we
have to do
with 2.4ghz. It's Near LOS and we're seeing -82 but the tree tops are
killing
us on packet loss.
We
currently have a 19dBi tranzeo
CPE200 connecting to a 9dBi Omni. I don't want to amp this shot so that
is out
of the question.
JohnnyO



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