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2009-12-08 Thread MDK
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance And I guess because you know someone from Canada/Britain/France/Spain/ etc that swears the healthcare is worse then they make it out to be and that the US is where everyone with money goes then it must be true. Let's all just ignore study after study

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Brad Belton
Great post! clap - clap - clap Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Insurance As business people, we should be looking at

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 16:42, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: The free market really does work. We use it daily in our business... Now imagine if we used it for health care, too.We know how to do that, don't we? There is a fundamental difference between broadband Internet and

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Jeremy Parr
2009/12/7 David E. Smith d...@mvn.net: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 16:42, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: The free market really does work.   We use it daily in our business... Now imagine if we used it for health care, too.    We know how to do that, don't we? There is a fundamental

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread RickG
Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not truly run in a free market. It's failure is exactly due to this. Even after all the government rules and regulations, who in the USA does not have access to health care? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:58 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net

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2009-12-07 Thread Tom Sharples
- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not truly run in a free market. It's failure is exactly due to this. Even after

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 18:06, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not truly run in a free market. It's failure is exactly due to this. Even after all the government rules and regulations, who in the USA does not have access to health

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 18:06, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not truly run in a free

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah. Insurance should be for major catastrophe not every day snotty nose type issues. marlon - Original Message - From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] Insurance As business

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 18:06, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not truly run in a free

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2009-12-07 Thread RickG
Dave, I like that idea. Will you pay for my health costs then? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:50 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 18:06, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not truly run in a free market.

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Robert West
. Simple. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sharples Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance One of the basic probems IMO is that the whole idea of medical

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance One of the basic probems IMO is that the whole idea of medical insurance, as currentlky implemented, is fundamentally flawed. Consider selling ISP services under the model of broadband insurance. Under that model, your customer would pay you a certain amount per

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 20:15, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: No, not that simple... This I gotta hear. How do you justify not providing health care to any human that needs it? David Smith MVN.net

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2009-12-07 Thread Robert West
] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance No, not that simple... On 12/7/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Exactly. We are the one and only industrialized country (with whatever industry we might have

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Blake Bowers
List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Exactly. We are the one and only industrialized country (with whatever industry we might have left) who puts profit in healthcare. As you stated, their goal is to NOT pay and they can and do

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 19:52, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, I like that idea. Will you pay for my health costs then? That's exactly how single payer works. Everyone pays in a bit, nobody worries about it. I'll pay my share if you pay yours. :) David Smith MVN.net

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2009-12-07 Thread Robert West
are. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance With no profit we would have no advancement. Don't take your organs

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Robert West
a waste. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 19:52, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 21:22, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Actually, most of the advancement now is coming from other countries. We're behind but since we live in it, we can't smell it. We rank near number 37 in health care, that certainly is not being a leader. Even our

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Robert West
WAY before the HMO came along. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:52 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Somebody's got

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Robert West
. Smith Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 21:22, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Actually, most of the advancement now is coming from other countries. We're behind but since we live in it, we

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread MDK
people to put their life in the hands of Congress. My experience says I'd rather do surgery on myself. -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:50 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 21:29, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: They will come up with new drugs, not to worry. Even at 5 bucks a bottle they can make millions. Besides, they choose to leech cash from us because we're the only fools to allow it. Turn off the spigot and they will

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Blake Bowers
. - Original Message - From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Actually, most of the advancement now is coming from other countries. We're behind but since we live

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 21:37, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Medicare reimburses doctors, hospitals, etc, somewhere between 10 and 60% of the COST of what people who are on medicare actually get.The rest of us who actually PAY are paying to subsidize them. Source? (The real number

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2009-12-07 Thread RickG
Um, thats what happens now. I pay mine and you pay yours. So, wheres the problem? Oh ya, there are those that cant or choose not to. So now we want to force them to? And I thought this country was founded on freedom? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:34 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Mon, Dec

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread RickG
David, Forgive me, this is not a personal attack. I dont see it on your website so I have to ask, you dont own mvn.net do you? The reason I ask is that you come off with an employee mentality rather than from an owner perspective. I'm just curious. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:53 PM, David E. Smith

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:21, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: David, Forgive me, this is not a personal attack. I dont see it on your website so I have to ask, you dont own mvn.net do you? The reason I ask is that you come off with an employee mentality rather than from an owner

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Blake Bowers
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance If anything were as simple as flick of a switch we wouldn't be in a mess. Free health care to everyone, feeding every hungry mouth and providing good homes to every child is something we can all hope

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
Source please? http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-faq (The overhead numbers come from Won't this be just another bureaucracy?) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

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2009-12-07 Thread RickG
When you own a business, you take a huge risk using a lot of blood, sweat, tears, time away from the family, worrying about the baby. Then you have to fight for it because all they want to do is take it away. It changes your perspective on life and the order of things. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:06, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Um, thats what happens now. I pay mine and you pay yours. So, wheres the problem? Oh ya, there are those that cant or choose not to. So now we want to force them to? And I thought this country was founded on freedom? The key is

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread RickG
Please, not another thug group out of Chicago :( http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/05/physicians-for-national-health-program.html On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:24 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: Source please? http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-faq (The overhead numbers come

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 19:52, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, I like that idea. Will you pay for my health costs

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Brad Belton
, 2009 8:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance No, not that simple... On 12/7/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Exactly. We are the one and only industrialized country (with whatever industry we might have left) who puts profit in healthcare. As you

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread RickG
Those that cant are already covered by the generosity of the US taxpayer. That goes back to my original question: Who does not have access? As far as compassion, I appreciate yours. I've had some very rough times myself over the years. If/when I get into another rough time, I need to count on

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:46, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Think of the stereotypical government agency. Driver's license office. Last time I was there, I was in and out in about ten minutes. Granted, that was several years ago; the last few transactions I had with them were

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Brad Belton
' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Actually, most of the advancement now is coming from other countries. We're behind but since we live in it, we can't smell it. We rank near number 37 in health care, that certainly is not being a leader. Even our friend, Cuba ranks higher than we do. Shameful

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Brad Belton
Well, that does explain a lot. Thank you for your honesty. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On Mon

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:06, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Um, thats what happens now. I pay mine and you pay yours. So, wheres

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 23:01, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/resources/pdf/CAHI_Medicare_Admin_Final_Publication.pdf The Council for Affordable Health Insurance (CAHI) is an association of insurance companies, actuarial firms, legislative

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:52 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Wow...speechless. I suggest you visit Cuba for all your health care needs. You

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 23:06, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I've always thought this was really pretty easy. Dave, just pick ONE family and pay their insurance for them! It's well within your right to do so. And it helps one other family afford health care. I'm trying to

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread RickG
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:51 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:46, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Think of the stereotypical government agency. Driver's license office. Last time I was there, I was in and out in about ten minutes. Granted,

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Blake Bowers
Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. The key is those that can't. I see it as a humanitarian cause to provide essential human-welfare services for those who are, through no fault of their own, unable to attain

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread RickG
So a couple of bucks is compationate? How easy it is to spend other peoples money, eh? Too bad it doesnt work that way. You and I are paying way more than a couple of bucks. The biggest problem here is that taxes are taken out of your check automatically. You need to feel it go through your

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Blake Bowers
Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread RickG
Heck, it works for every other civilized country on the planet, it just might work here too. Define work. Strange, your roads are great there but your health insurance is too expensive? Listen, I admire your compassion, although now you admit more self-serving motives. If you really want to be

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Blake Bowers
Just to break up the insurance thread a bit... I shot my first turkey today. It scared the crap out of everyone else in the frozen food section. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread Paul C Diem
, 2009 7:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Oh boy, here we go. Even more important is water and food. How about electricity, transportation, entertainment etc. etc. etc. NOTHING is a basic human right past opportunity. The CHANCE to make our own direction is all

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-20 Thread Scottie Arnett
Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I carry a very high

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-20 Thread Gary Garrett
The Burlington Northern Railroad is self Insured. You save millions of $ on insurance premiums but you know for sure someday there will be a train wreck and people will die. S0... You put the money you would have spent on insurance in the bank and add to it monthly just like paying for

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-20 Thread chris cooper
We use Hartford. They've been great. Decent deductible, they pay claims without complaint, no premium increase. Chris Intelliwave Scottie Arnett wrote: They provide insurance at a rate for what you want covered. You pay less for a high deductable. In both cases, they will try everything

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-20 Thread Gary Garrett
I had insurance from Hartford once. Had a bad couple of months and paid the premium late. They canceled me and said they do not insure ISP's or for that matter an Internet anything company. I tried again a year later and they said the same thing No Internet company. Many on this list have

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-19 Thread John Scrivner
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-19 Thread Josh Luthman
: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-19 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
19, 2009 7:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I carry a very high deductible (like $10K per incident). I keep insurance strictly for liability coverage and for catastrophic coverage like if our office burns down or a tornado comes through and wipes everything

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-19 Thread George Rogato
-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I carry a very high deductible

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience with insuring your

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-16 Thread Alan Long
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-16 Thread Josh Luthman
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-16 Thread Charles Wyble
] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience with insuring your equipment

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-16 Thread Josh Luthman
: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone have information/experience with insuring your equipment against damage. My main concern is weather related damage

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-16 Thread Chris T.
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you mean AP gear and not CPE? Or do you mean CPE as well? Alan Long wrote: Anyone

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-16 Thread Josh Luthman
: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment I'm guessing you

Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment

2009-04-16 Thread eje
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:59:58 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance on equipment We had a $30K claim last year with The Hartford after a lightening strike. It took a few extra weeks to get the money, but we did get it. And, they did not cancel our policy. I

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2009-02-25 Thread Tim Wolfe
Find a broker that deals with CNA. They are still in the ISP business. Use 2 separate classifications. One is being an ISP and the second is satellite installer. Most insurance CO's have no clue what a WISP is to this day and will run for the hills when you describe your business. They all

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2009-02-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
properly covered. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance I was told by United that they were no longer taking new clients

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2009-02-18 Thread Forbes Mercy
] On Behalf Of Chadd Thompson Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance I have not heard anything from Chubb indicating this. Are they not taking new customers or getting rid of existing ones also? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2009-02-17 Thread Forbes Mercy
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Without good insurance, there are a lot of things you can't do and places you can't go. We're

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2009-02-17 Thread St. Louis Broadband
] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Without good insurance, there are a lot of things you can't do and places you can't go. We're with Chubb right now and looking into Hartford. We have liability, EO

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2009-02-17 Thread Rick Harnish
. More as soon as we get additional details. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance We have been

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2009-02-17 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance We have been using Hartford for three years now and they are very good. Although we have never had a claim. Victoria On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Forbes

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2009-02-17 Thread Chadd Thompson
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance I was informed the Chubb is getting out of the ISP business so that pretty much leaves Hartford so I'm trying to get on with them. I used Sue Larson at United but she must be busy because her responses are usually a week apart and only after I ask her

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2009-02-17 Thread D. Ryan Spott
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance We have been using Hartford for three years now and they are very good. Although we have

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2008-09-30 Thread Mike Hammett
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Without good insurance, there are a lot of things you can't do and places you can't go. We're with Chubb right now and looking into Hartford. We have liability, EO, and an umbrella. On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 11:12:21AM -0500

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2008-09-30 Thread Mike Hammett
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance I am looking for a few WISPA members who would be interested in participating in this conference call with Marsh McLennan. Please RSVP to me offlist so we can coordinate a time to set this call up. Thanks, Rick Harnish -Original Message- From

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2008-09-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Did anything get determined? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Rick Harnish

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2008-09-12 Thread Ron Harden
on progress or an offer to members. Usually there is strength in numbers...Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance My agent sent me

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2008-09-12 Thread D. Ryan Spott
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance My agent sent me a proposal after I explained to him exactly what it is that we do. I

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2008-09-12 Thread Rick Harnish
] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance WOOT! IMNSHO.. This is where WISPA needs to go! I would gladly pay more to join and keep my membership current with group buying power for insurance that covers what a WISP

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2008-09-09 Thread Mac Dearman
My opinion of insurance is not good! (Insurance is a racket and of Satan -hehehehe) When you buy insurance, buy what you can afford and all you can afford. It has been our experience that we really haven't needed any insurance and it has been a big waste of money, but I do know that for the

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2008-09-09 Thread jp
Without good insurance, there are a lot of things you can't do and places you can't go. We're with Chubb right now and looking into Hartford. We have liability, EO, and an umbrella. On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 11:12:21AM -0500, Mac Dearman wrote: My opinion of insurance is not good!

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-18 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
, November 16, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. Tom DeReggi wrote: Excellent point Travis. It would be covered under business liabilty insurance and/or workman's comp. Auto insurance is meant to cover the driver or other guy that got hurt

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-18 Thread Tim Wolfe
Cliff Leboeuf wrote: 1. I don't agree that 'vehicle' insurance covers ANYTHING that arises due to the vehicle or its use. 'Vehicle' insurance covers things when used as a 'vehicle'... Driving accidents. Even if you have 'vehicle' insurance on a bucket truck, you would need 'liability AND

Re: [WISPA] Insurance And Worker's Comp...

2006-11-17 Thread Peter R.
Professional Employer Organizations | Administrative Serice Organizations Jack Unger wrote: I hate to admit my ignorance here but my curiosity got the best of me... what does ASO and PEO stand for? Peter R. wrote: I would suggest hiring through an ASO or PEO organization. These staff

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-17 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tim Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. Tom DeReggi wrote

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-17 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. Tom DeReggi wrote: Excellent point Travis. It would be covered under business liabilty insurance and/or workman's comp. Auto insurance is meant to cover

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-17 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. Yup yup yup. Ours is a Ford F-350 4x4. :) Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: If its a standard VAN

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-17 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. When you put it that way... It does bring a new perpective to think about. Well said. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tim Wolfe [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Tim Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. Tom DeReggi wrote: If its a standard VAN / Truck body, Don't tell

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-16 Thread Peter R.
Borders on Insurance fraud... and if you have to activate the insurance, they don't have to pay... Tom DeReggi wrote: If its a standard VAN / Truck body, Don't tell them about the bucket! Call it a VAN, not a Bucket truck! Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-16 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. Tom DeReggi wrote: If its a standard VAN / Truck body, Don't tell them about the bucket! Call it a VAN, not a Bucket truck! Tom DeReggi RapidDSL

RE: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. And Worker's Comp...

2006-11-16 Thread Dylan Bouterse
How are you handling worker's comp for the people authorized to use the truck? Dylan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cw Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use

Re: [WISPA] Insurance And Worker's Comp...

2006-11-16 Thread Peter R.
I would suggest hiring through an ASO or PEO organization. These staff companies provide payroll, benefits and insurance. Construction companies use them. Just a thought. Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. MarketingIDEAguy.com (813) (63-5884 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-16 Thread Tim Wolfe
Tom, I do share some of same views that You have. I just thought it would be a good idea to present the pros and cons of omitting information. There are 2 types of insurance customers it seems?. The first one is like Yourself. You buy the insurance because You have to, and the thought of using

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
16, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. Tom, I do share some of same views that You have. I just thought it would be a good idea to present the pros and cons of omitting information. There are 2 types of insurance customers it seems

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-16 Thread Travis Johnson
perpective to think about. Well said. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tim Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-16 Thread J. Vogel
- Original Message - From: Tim Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. Tom, I do share some of same views that You have. I just thought

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