We have a stipulation in our AUP when the customer signs the initial
contract that prohibits maximizing their connection for a sustained
period of time. We enforce a 3 strike rule then kick 'em off-line if
violated. If they choose to go with another provider then good riddance.
Let the
: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:46 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing
I'm sure much of this will already have been covered (been out for a
couple of days). But since it was addressed to me
Don't know the details of the truck driver story
that he isn't trying to squeeze every last dime from them.
John Thomas
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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:49 PM
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There actually are some of us out
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 05:38:55 +, John J. Thomas wrote
I read an article once about this. What happens when Walmart can't
drop prices any lower?
Then their prices don't drop. What's confusing about that?
Who foots the bill when Walmart employees get
sick and go to the Emergency room?
I cannot believe how many of you guys all decided that this thread could
be extended into a lengthy diatribe about Wal-mart. I use these lists to
learn and teach about the wireless industry and to help drive changes in
policy and law. We have people from time to time who join this list to
My health insurance company that I pay thousands of dollars per year is
who foots the bill when my family goes to the ER... not the tax payers.
I think that was his point.
Walmart is the largest private employer, yet a VERY small percentage of
their workers have any benefits. So the concern
You go John, I agree.. OH NO I just did a mee too! Ok really I did that on
purpose to help John with his point. So what really is the point of this
email? I just read an article from the AP that was re-printed in the Kansas
City Star:
I worded my original post incorrectly relating to the relevant topics
for this list. Anything to do with promoting or improving the WISP
industry fits within the scope of our Mission Statement in WISPA and
would be relevant topics for discussion here. I would like to see more
of the sensitive
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I read an article once about this. What happens when Walmart can't drop
prices any lower
Why should ANY employer provide health care?
You work, they give you money, end of story
Travis Johnson wrote:
My health insurance company that I pay thousands of dollars per year
is who foots the bill when my family goes to the ER... not the tax
payers. I think that was his point.
appreciate that fact that he isn't trying to squeeze every last dime from them.
John Thomas
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There actually
27, 2007 1:51 PM
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Sam, Walmart has made most of its money by screwing others.
Truck driver makes delivery to Walmart ad unload pallets. Goes to have
receiving sign for them. Receiving refuses to sign, and says that *after*
the truck driver
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There actually are some of us out here that don't have this luxury in
our markets. My total market is approximately 3000 people (not
households) and I have
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The devil is in the details. I only sell unlimited connections over
leased line connections. Everyone else signs our AUP and agrees
Blake Bowers wrote:
The pickles... The famous pickles. Got to love it. You tie the
pickles with the
bankruptcy, when every industry analyst, all the business mags, Vlasic
themselves,
all agree, Walmart or the pickle deal was not a critical factor in their
bankruptcy.
Not sure about
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:27:22 -0800, George Rogato wrote
Blake Bowers wrote:
You know, the only real difference between WalMart and most other retailers,
is that what the manufacturer agrees to do, WalMart holds them to.
Rubbermaid, Vlasic Pickles, Bicycle makers, the list goes on and on. All
Blake Bowers wrote:
Actually, Walmart has made most of its money by providing the CONSUMER
with
what the CONSUMER wants.
Walmart fills only what the consumer wants. That is how they make
money,
by meeting those consumer needs/desires. When a customer wants
an apple for ten cents, you
I just read the USA Today article from 2003. It says the namebrand
items provide 15% profit while the private label items provide 30%
profit. Those are HUGE margins for a company now doing a billion a day
in sales.
I agree they have gotten where they are because they can operate on
very low
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:06:21 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote
I just read the USA Today article from 2003. It says the namebrand items
provide 15% profit while the private label items provide 30% profit. Those
are HUGE margins for a company now doing a billion a day in sales.
I don't know where
Mark,
While it is true that many suppliers created their own problems, both
Walmart Home Depot do in fact beat up their suppliers. Extra fees.
Delivery hassles. Invoicing issues. It is a catch-22: everyone wants to
sell at Walmart to get at the eyeballs, but at what cost? Why do you
think
My $0.02 slightly OT, but food for thought about price:
In my last lifetime I worked as a mechanical engineer. One achievement
I was particularly proud of was being the head engineer over a frangible
bullet production line (frangible copper alloy bullets for firing ranges
to prevent
Selling internet SERVICE is different than selling a PRODUCT. Your
costs are not in the hard costs of the product, leases, etc. it's in
the monthly costs (bandwidth, servers, employees, credit card
processing fees, etc.). So your "gross profit" is going to be much
higher than Walmart or
that are legal, ethical and moral,
and Walmart has been proven to be lacking in all 3 areas.
John Thomas
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On Sat
know any better. Now,
just like my business, my household has grown up a lot!
laters,
marlon
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Blake Bowers wrote:
Actually, Walmart has made most of its money by providing the CONSUMER
with
what the CONSUMER wants.
Walmart fills only what the consumer wants. That is how they make
money,
by meeting those
I see your point, Sam.
Perhaps products like Linksys Routers could be a better example, or how
about YouTube? for the argument, or even our residential customers (this
oen rings a bell for many of us in this tech service industry, going all
the way back to dialup days).
I'm not sure about
They have made billions by serving billions of customers.
Walmart and McDonalds only work on scale -- huge scale.
Lexus and Bose are not mass market.
And neither are many of you on this list.
In the DSL arena, the combined 300 ISPs selling in BellSouth territory
in its hey-day never had more
I understand that I don't have the market to be a Walmart, it was just a
general observation (and hence tagged as off topic). Kind of like
noting that Warren Buffet, who is considered one of the top investers in
the nation, made his billions in the market but refuses to deal with
tech stocks,
Sam Tetherow wrote:
Some of
us operate in the well under 10,000 people areas where 'finding a higher
ARPU customer' is not really a viable option. We have to be all things
in order to have enough customers to pay the bills.
This is how my market is, the biggest customer would be the
John J. Thomas wrote:
But, the model will work if you bill by the bytes
If Joe is paying $40 per month for 6 Gig and gets throttled at 6 Gig, then he
has a disincentive for keeping going. If he is paying $40 for unlimited access,
he has no reason to slow down.
Charter cable is doing 10
There actually are some of us out here that don't have this luxury in
our markets. My total market is approximately 3000 people (not
households) and I have to go 45 miles in any direction to find another
town with more than 80 people in it.
I'm not saying this in a 'woe is me' tone, just
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