Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Brad Belton
Going to need lots more info to be able to help. Cable run length and type of cable used. What is your expected RSSI per your path analysis What is your targetrssi set to What are your cableloss settings What is your power set to Run a link 10 command from both sides and provide results What

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Gino Villarini
, 2009 2:47 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem Going to need lots more info to be able to help. Cable run length and type of cable used. What is your expected RSSI per your path analysis What is your targetrssi set to What are your cableloss settings What is your

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Joe Miller
First off, I believe your signal is too hot. turn the tx power down til you reach between a -50 and -60 dB. That is usually the sweet spot on most RF equipment. Right now you are screaming at each other. - Original Message From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Brad Belton
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem I'll do that, Link was working for months Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Gino Villarini
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem I'll do that, Link was working for months Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Brad Belton
the less hot you can run it. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem First off, I believe your signal is too hot

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Travis Johnson
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem I know the feeling. We had one of our early Giga links working for months not realizing we had made mistakes until later. Got your configs...but also

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Gino Villarini
787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:b...@belwave.com] Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:58 PM To: Gino Villarini Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem If you are running 100' of LMR400 on each end then your cableloss settings are probably close enough, but I'd adjust them

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Brad Belton
Replied off list... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem Whats the relation of target rssi

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Brad Belton
List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem Replied off list... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

2009-04-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem Going to need lots more info to be able to help. Cable run length and type of cable used. What

Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes, we have been using them for 3-4 years. They work great. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Is it save to use the PacWireless 24v reverse units for the Trango 5800/5830/900 APs and SUs? I used to order Trango PoEs along side the radio, along with the mounting bolts/plates. We have

Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Somehow I just knew you would be the one to answer this =) Thank you very much!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:25

Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
Trango factory POE are very inexpensive now in 10 packs. We prefer to stay with the Trango ones. Yes, the Pac 24V reverse units are compatible with the Trangos. (PS, all the Trangos come with 24v PowerSupply now, even though Foxes used to come with 20V) There is one benefit to the Pac ones,

Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Tom, Are the newest Trango PoE units also grounded like the Pac units (with the power cord)? We have fixed many customers that kept blowing ethernet ports on routers by switching to the Pac PoE units. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Trango factory POE are very inexpensive now in 10

Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
As I only go on installs on a needed basis (when someone needs a hand, someone is learning, etc) I don't think of those picky things - but I do HATE wall warts versus the nice NEMA5-15 and grounding can never be a bad thing! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-20 Thread Matt Jenkins
Please do enlighten us of this latest special. - Matt Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question - OFFLIST

2009-01-20 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question Please do enlighten us of this latest special. - Matt Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question - OFFLIST

2009-01-20 Thread Bob Moldashel
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question Please do enlighten us of this latest special. - Matt Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: I just received

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread 3-dB Networks
I have heard this a few times myself... although from what I heard it was mostly their point to multipoint product engineers. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread John Seaman
This is completely UNTRUE! I would like to find out who sent you this email because it is absolutely false and slanderous. If you don't mind I would really appreciate if you could send me a copy of the email off-list. Thank you very much. John Seaman Trango Systems, Inc.

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread Brad Belton
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Seaman Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question This is completely UNTRUE! I would like to find out who sent you this email because it is absolutely false

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Umm. Coming from a competitor, I would not trust that comment. I have no knowledge of what engineering staff Trango has or hasn't recently let go. I know that the typical people that I deal with at Trango are still there, and have been there for years. I will say, Trango has always made their

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread 3-dB Networks
3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question John, as you know we also heard

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread Wallace Walcher
I replied back to John offlist with the basic source. I am glad to know it is not true. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM, John Seaman j...@trangosys.com wrote: This is completely UNTRUE! I would like to find out who sent you this email because it is absolutely false and slanderous. If you

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread John Seaman
the definitions) John -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Question John, as you know we also heard this rumor some time ago

Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

2009-01-08 Thread Travis Johnson
They do 3Mbps total bandwidth... so however many subs you can get on there at whatever speed they are OK with... ;) We have some with 60+ subs. Travis Microserv Al Stewart wrote: I know some of you are using Trango 900s. So could I trouble you for some observations based on your depth of

Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

2009-01-08 Thread John Scrivner
We find that about 45 CPE per AP is max without some speed / latency issues creeping up. We sell mostly 768k connections. Scriv On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: They do 3Mbps total bandwidth... so however many subs you can get on there at whatever speed they

Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

2009-01-08 Thread Gerard Dupont III
I inherited a Trango 900 network that has some AP's with over 100 subs on them. You just need to be careful how much bandwidth you sell your customers since there is only 3mbit to go around. I am very impressed with how well they run with that many subs though. Gerard Al Stewart wrote: I

Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

2009-01-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 900 We find that about 45 CPE per AP is max without some speed / latency issues creeping up. We sell mostly 768k

Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt?

2008-12-24 Thread can...@believewireless.net
On the Giga, do the G1-G4 ports act like a switch? Because, we can only ping the device attached to GE1 but when we plug in other devices on the other ports in the same subnet, we can't reach them. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Yes, but we've never used

Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt?

2008-12-24 Thread Gino Villarini
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt? On the Giga, do the G1-G4 ports act like a switch? Because, we can only ping the device attached to GE1 but when we plug in other devices

Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt?

2008-12-24 Thread 3-dB Networks
...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt? AFAIK they are independent .. Port 1 talks only to Port 1 on the other end ... Same with others Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145

Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt?

2008-12-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt? On the Giga, do the G1-G4 ports act like a switch? Because, we can only ping the device attached to GE1 but when we plug in other devices on the other ports in the same subnet, we can't

Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt?

2008-12-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt? Correct... This is supposed to be a selling feature having it setup this way... Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original

Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt?

2008-12-24 Thread Travis Johnson
@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt? On the Giga, do the G1-G4 ports act like a switch? Because, we can only ping the device attac

Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt?

2008-12-24 Thread Brad Belton
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt? On the APEX line, you can turn off smart mode and then the GigE copper and Fiber ports will all talk to each other across the link (meaning you can run copper on 1 side and fiber on the other). Travis Microserv 3-dB Networks

Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt?

2008-12-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes. The newer firmwares have inband management support. However, you need a VLAN aware device to make the connection, as Inband management requires a VLAN assignment. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini

Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt?

2008-12-23 Thread 3-dB Networks
You need the latest firmware release... then you can do it Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Trango GIGA Unband mngmt?

2008-12-23 Thread Brad Belton
Yes, but we've never used it before. YMMV... Type ibm to determine In Band Management status. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:42 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
You'll just have to drop a tap in right behind the AP. If you have client to client allowed I have no idea how to help you. Anyone else have any ideas for Josh? (remember to hit reply all) marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-19 Thread Josh Luthman
That was my only idea, however that includes data from other CPE radios which voids the rules of engagement :/ On 12/19/08, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net wrote: That would be my suggestion. That's radio vendor neutral. Jeff -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-19 Thread Jeff Broadwick
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA That was my only idea, however that includes data from other CPE radios which voids the rules of engagement :/ On 12/19/08, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net wrote: That would be my suggestion. That's radio vendor neutral. Jeff

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-19 Thread Josh Luthman
] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA That was my only idea, however that includes data from other CPE radios which voids the rules of engagement :/ On 12/19/08, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net wrote

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA That was my only idea, however that includes data from other CPE radios which voids the rules of engagement :/ On 12/19/08, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net wrote: That would be my

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-18 Thread Matt
It is a bridge. I was actually thinking it would be the other wat around - but I guess not. Move to PPPoE with Mikrotik and would be a lot easier. http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US07/MUM_CALEA.pdf Cannot find 2008 Chicago slide. http://www.wispa.org/calea/WCS/WISPA-CS-IPNA-2.0.pdf

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Matt, That is what I am doing now, however, I still have customers on Trango that I need to support between now and when they're on MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-17 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 11:50 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and support CALEA? Is the Trango gear a bridge or routed stuff? If bridge, the answer is easy...if it is routed...no so easy. --

Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA

2008-12-17 Thread Josh Luthman
It is a bridge. I was actually thinking it would be the other wat around - but I guess not. On 12/18/08, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 11:50 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and support CALEA? Is the

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE

2008-12-02 Thread Brad Belton
-26 RSSI is too hot. Check the manual or call Trango to make sure you haven't damaged the RX side of the radios. Targetrssi and cableloss settings are very important to GigaLINK radios. What type of cable do you have running between the IDU ODU? Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE

2008-12-02 Thread Travis Johnson
I would continue to turn the power down (probably to 0) and see if that helps. We had a -35 on our link (at +20db power) and had to turn it down to +13db to get a -42 and then the MSE went from -20ish to -33ish. I would do it on the local side first, to see what happens in case the link

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE

2008-12-02 Thread Gino Villarini
, 2008 10:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE -26 RSSI is too hot. Check the manual or call Trango to make sure you haven't damaged the RX side of the radios. Targetrssi and cableloss settings are very important to GigaLINK radios. What type

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE

2008-12-02 Thread Gino Villarini
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE I would continue to turn the power down (probably to 0) and see if that helps. We had a -35

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE

2008-12-02 Thread Brad Belton
] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE Brad and Travis, Thanks for your help I turned down both ends to 0 power. I have -41 on the local end and -46 on the remote. MSE went to -31 on the local

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE

2008-12-02 Thread Gino Villarini
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:34 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE We ran into a problem with noise being picked up by the IDU/ODU cable due to less

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE

2008-12-02 Thread Brad Belton
, December 02, 2008 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE I'll try the the larger calbe loss numbers AFAIK I just need to input the cable loss for a 100' run or is the actual calbe loss number needed ( cable loss per ft * cable run) Gino

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE

2008-12-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link - Lowering MSE Right, if you have LMR400 and the cable run is 100' then you would enter: cableloss 1.5 2.3 3.9 For 200' you would enter: cableloss 3.0 4.6 7.8 Here is an online calculator where you can

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread 3-dB Networks
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Daniel, I just got a quote back from Trango for the following: 18ghz (311Mbps full-duplex) with split IDU/ODU 2ft dishes 48v rack mount power supplies Total price = $9,800 Care to share the pricing on a Dragonwave for the same? Travis

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread 3-dB Networks
General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex I don't understand why Trango did that... my really old PCom links had the waveguide built onto the dish... One reason. Cost. Trango is able to use the same ODU housing for all their supported freq bands by simply making the waveguide adapter

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread 3-dB Networks
the ODU's to the tower. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex One thing I did like, the handles

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread 3-dB Networks
:-) but not at the expense of the BNC connector Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Shouldn't it be attached

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread 3-dB Networks
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex The only thing I do NOT like about the Radiowave dishes are The mounts are designed for 4 pole. We usually mount to 3 pole, based

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 10:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Daniel, I just got a quote back from Trango for the following: 18ghz (311Mbps full-duplex) with split IDU/ODU 2ft dishes 48v rack mount power

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread 3-dB Networks
it. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex I guess you could argue that it would be better for Trango to make

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread 3-dB Networks
3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Daniel, Quick question, then my response... do all Apex's ship

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Travis Johnson
this the other day with a customer. I was able to match Trango for the same throughput Daniel White 3-dB Networks _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
White 3-dB Networks _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Hi, Having used the voltmeter vs. LED method of aligning, I

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Brad Belton
is not as good a fit as the Giga. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex If you are using 18GHz, you should use the Apex line

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Brad Belton
] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:00 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex One more quick rant... those waveguide pieces SUCK. They caused many problems (screws on them stripping out, or some tech installing them the wrong way before it was sent up

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Brad Belton
: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex I don't understand why Trango did that... my really old PCom links had the waveguide built onto the dish... One reason. Cost. Trango is able to use the same ODU housing for all their supported freq bands

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex - Link Quality We looked at the BER results, etc. I guess what I was saying was I did not get the opportunity to kill them and test PPS or actual throughput... all I did was climb the tower where they had already been

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
And the APEX is less expensive. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
- From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex One thing I did like, the handles on the ODU of the Giga. Made aligning 3ft dishes a bit easier... Wow, just noticed this comment

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Brad Belton
. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex The only thing I do NOT like about the Radiowave dishes are The mounts are designed

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Brad Belton
Exactly... Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 2:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex The absolute voltage doesn't matter, nor does it matter

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 4:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Have to disagree. The thing I hate about antennas (and equipment) that are NOT like RadioWaves is they don't fit on the larger pipes. Something tells me RadioWaves makes

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Have to disagree. The thing I hate about antennas (and equipment) that are NOT like RadioWaves is they don't fit on the larger pipes. Something tells me

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Brad Belton
:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Sure, here ya go... This is from early 2005. The installation was for an Alcatel 6GHz OC3 setup with three 15' antennas for spatial diversity. Larson Associates facilitated the link for a company called Aspen Communications. Here

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Brad Belton
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Brad, Yes, you can even mount a 15' antenna to a tower with 2 legs, but the antenna will still be attached to a 4 or larger

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread lakeland
antennas when using a reduction pipe mount Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:01:18 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Sure, use a pipe to pipe kit

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-28 Thread Randy Cosby
: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Hi, Having used the voltmeter vs. LED method of aligning, I will take the LED any day. One less piece of equipment to have to deal with on the tower, and a much more accurate way to see the true RSSI

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-27 Thread 3-dB Networks
: [WISPA] Trango Apex Hi, Having used the voltmeter vs. LED method of aligning, I will take the LED any day. One less piece of equipment to have to deal with on the tower, and a much more accurate way to see the true RSSI on the link. And, I think we already did the pricing thing about 5 months

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex One more quick rant... those waveguide pieces SUCK

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
Daniel, Quick question, then my response... do all Apex's ship with the fiber port in them? I don't know, I don't work for Trango's shipping department. Logically Every item has a price, and I'm sure Sale people factor in or out that price, when giving someone a best custom quote to meet

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-26 Thread 3-dB Networks
Tom, Quick question, then my response... do all Apex's ship with the fiber port in them? I really have to bite my tounge... I don't want to get into what all happened (basically I don't want my thoughts made public and the customer I was working for to read them) but I was not impressed at all

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-26 Thread 3-dB Networks
General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Tom, Quick question, then my response... do all Apex's ship with the fiber port in them? I really have to bite my tounge... I don't want to get into what all happened (basically I don't want my thoughts made public and the customer I was working

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-26 Thread Travis Johnson
the waveguide built onto the dish... Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:43 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Tom, Quick question, then my

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-26 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Having used the "voltmeter" vs. LED method of aligning, I will take the LED any day. One less piece of equipment to have to deal with on the tower, and a much more accurate way to see the true RSSI on the link. And, I think we already did the "pricing" thing about 5 months ago, didn't

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-11-26 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
26, 2008 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Hi, Having used the voltmeter vs. LED method of aligning, I will take the LED any day. One less piece of equipment to have to deal with on the tower, and a much more accurate way to see the true RSSI on the link. And, I think we already

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-06 Thread Gino Villarini
] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:49 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup Hello Gino, You would really be doing yourself a favor to skim through the manual and then start asking more specific questions, but here's

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-06 Thread Brad Belton
On its way off list. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup Thanks, The manual I have obn hand

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-05 Thread Brad Belton
Don't bother with the web interface. Skim through the manual and do all configuration and management from the CLI. As for the not accepting the freq/channel...you either don't have the ODU powered up or you are trying to set a freq the ODU doesn't support. I can be available if you are still

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-05 Thread Gino Villarini
Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:59 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup Don't bother with the web interface. Skim through the manual and do all configuration and management from the CLI. As for the not accepting the freq/channel...you

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-05 Thread Travis Johnson
, November 05, 2008 11:59 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup Don't bother with the web interface. Skim through the manual and do all configuration and management from the CLI. As for the not accepting the freq/channel...you either don't have

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-05 Thread Brad Belton
you'll be very happy with the performance. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup Im going

Re: [WISPA] Trango 900 SU

2008-07-04 Thread Rogelio
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Re: [WISPA] Trango Link 45

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Hammett
List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Link 45 We have a large number of these radios in our network and are happy with them. WIth that being said, make sure you understand that the Trango link test uses 1600 byte frames. Most networks will make

Re: [WISPA] Trango Link 45

2008-06-18 Thread Cameron Kilton
We are quite happy with it, it was a great solutions for an alternate path. -Cam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Link 45

Re: [WISPA] Trango Link 45

2008-06-17 Thread Matt Liotta
!!!). I'm just trying to milk every bit out of the link I possibly can. -Cam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Link 45 Pretty amazing

Re: [WISPA] Trango Link 45

2008-06-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
Pretty amazing, yeah! Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Cameron Kilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:45 PM Subject: [WISPA] Trango Link 45 These are my results on a 36 Mile

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