RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
They just finished their 6th prototype and found out some issues with the current Atheros chipsets in regards to adjustable frequency selection. They are looking at making a new prototype with the latest chipset. The cards where not estimated to be available and ready until around Jan/Feb and more then likely your not going to see any cards until Feb at this point since they have to redesign them a bit. But it's all for the better. / Eje WISP-Router, Inc Ubiquiti Distributor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard Anyone heard anything more about these 900MHz mini-PCI cards from Ubiquiti? Their web site doesn't seem to mention them IMHO, their web site is useless -- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: OK, talking about all of the ways that Trango has to fine tune the radios has me thinking. I've got two systems that I'm having some trouble with. Both are low to the ground and I'm sure I'm seeing multipath. GREAT speed tests radio to radio but poor data rates and high error rates (5% most of the time). Still much better than the wifi it's replaced but it needs to be better. I don't know the cli on these radios and don't have the time, desire or need to learn. I do need some help from someone that knows them insideout. Anyone need an hour or two of consulting to help me get these two systems polished up so that they run at full speed? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard JohnnyO, When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment Of course every environment is different. But We have with great success with Trango. Try colocating right next to qty 5 - 929Mhz 500 watt OMNIs, and the same horizontal plain in Urban america with -60db RSSIs from them, -30db RSSIs on the top channel. Feel free to share one technical reason why the Canopy is capable of dealing with interference better than Trango. (other than personal experience, because that can not be verified or accurately debated). My guess is in your environment, you weren't taking advantage of Trango's flexibility and using the best polarity for the job. I find most noise, such as from SCADA systems, are on verticle polarity, very easy to combat with a radio like Trango that supports horizontal pol antennas on the fly. You probably were using omnis or testing with Trango default antennas. Try matching up Trango w/ Tiltek Horizontal sector w/ their convenient ext antenna port on all APs and CPEs capable to add narrow beam Yagis. Trango has 3 ways to combat interference. 1- dual pol switchable, 2- dynamic leveling to compress out noise, 3- ARQ The choice for 900 Mhz radios is florishing right now, all very high grade radios (WaveRider, Alvarion, Tranmgo, Canopy, AirSpan, WaveIP). All have their own little unique benefits that make them special. Alvarion- Mobile. WaveRider- Dual Polarity Diverity. Trango- Dual Pol switchable + ARQ + great diag tools. Canopy- easy interface w/ diag statistic for Jitter and such. But as far as surviving noise, not confident that Canopy shines in that territory above Trango. I just don't believe it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil over a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the ONLY platform that will work here. We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us.. When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard How do you figure? Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy
RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
Thanks for the heads-up Eje. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:50:31 -0600 From: Eje Gustafsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini- PCICard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org They just finished their 6th prototype and found out some issues with the current Atheros chipsets in regards to adjustable frequency selection. They are looking at making a new prototype with the latest chipset. The cards where not estimated to be available and ready until around Jan/Feb and more then likely your not going to see any cards until Feb at this point since they have to redesign them a bit. But it's all for the better. / Eje WISP-Router, Inc Ubiquiti Distributor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard Anyone heard anything more about these 900MHz mini-PCI cards from Ubiquiti? Their web site doesn't seem to mention them IMHO, their web site is useless Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
With all of the current 900mhz AP's and CPE out there currently a closed/proprietary system (not an 802.x open standard) for the handshaking, security, ack/nack, etc, I am curious if/how Mikrotik, StarOS, Windows, or whoever will talk to them. Has all of that programming been worked out? They won't actually be able to associate with an existing Waverider, Proxim, Trango, Tranzeo, or Alvarion, or whatever AP/CPE will they? I would assume not. I would love to deploy a 900Mhz system where I am not locked into a single source hardware providor. Open standards avoid things like getting stuck with things like Karlnet or whoever when they go out of business. If Mikrotik were to make a proprietary standard, it would be a shame (although waiting on IEEE might not be effective/appropriate), but Mikrotik is not going anywhere IMO, and its affordable enough. pd Eje Gustafsson wrote: They just finished their 6th prototype and found out some issues with the current Atheros chipsets in regards to adjustable frequency selection. They are looking at making a new prototype with the latest chipset. The cards where not estimated to be available and ready until around Jan/Feb and more then likely your not going to see any cards until Feb at this point since they have to redesign them a bit. But it's all for the better. / Eje WISP-Router, Inc Ubiquiti Distributor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard Anyone heard anything more about these 900MHz mini-PCI cards from Ubiquiti? Their web site doesn't seem to mention them IMHO, their web site is useless -- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: OK, talking about all of the ways that Trango has to fine tune the radios has me thinking. I've got two systems that I'm having some trouble with. Both are low to the ground and I'm sure I'm seeing multipath. GREAT speed tests radio to radio but poor data rates and high error rates (5% most of the time). Still much better than the wifi it's replaced but it needs to be better. I don't know the cli on these radios and don't have the time, desire or need to learn. I do need some help from someone that knows them insideout. Anyone need an hour or two of consulting to help me get these two systems polished up so that they run at full speed? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard JohnnyO, When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment Of course every environment is different. But We have with great success with Trango. Try colocating right next to qty 5 - 929Mhz 500 watt OMNIs, and the same horizontal plain in Urban america with -60db RSSIs from them, -30db RSSIs on the top channel. Feel free to share one technical reason why the Canopy is capable of dealing with interference better than Trango. (other than personal experience, because that can not be verified or accurately debated). My guess is in your environment, you weren't taking advantage of Trango's flexibility and using the best polarity for the job. I find most noise, such as from SCADA systems, are on verticle polarity, very easy to combat with a radio like Trango that supports horizontal pol antennas on the fly. You probably were using omnis or testing with Trango default antennas. Try matching up Trango w/ Tiltek Horizontal sector w/ their convenient ext antenna port on all APs and CPEs capable to add narrow beam Yagis. Trango has 3 ways to combat interference. 1- dual pol switchable, 2- dynamic leveling to compress out noise, 3- ARQ The choice for 900 Mhz radios is florishing right now, all very high grade radios (WaveRider, Alvarion, Tranmgo, Canopy, AirSpan, WaveIP). All have their own little unique benefits that make them special. Alvarion- Mobile. WaveRider- Dual Polarity Diverity. Trango- Dual Pol switchable + ARQ + great diag tools. Canopy- easy interface w/ diag statistic for Jitter and such. But as far as surviving noise, not confident that Canopy shines in that territory above Trango. I just don't believe it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: RE
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
JohnnyO, When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment Of course every environment is different. But We have with great success with Trango. Try colocating right next to qty 5 - 929Mhz 500 watt OMNIs, and the same horizontal plain in Urban america with -60db RSSIs from them, -30db RSSIs on the top channel. Feel free to share one technical reason why the Canopy is capable of dealing with interference better than Trango. (other than personal experience, because that can not be verified or accurately debated). My guess is in your environment, you weren't taking advantage of Trango's flexibility and using the best polarity for the job. I find most noise, such as from SCADA systems, are on verticle polarity, very easy to combat with a radio like Trango that supports horizontal pol antennas on the fly. You probably were using omnis or testing with Trango default antennas. Try matching up Trango w/ Tiltek Horizontal sector w/ their convenient ext antenna port on all APs and CPEs capable to add narrow beam Yagis. Trango has 3 ways to combat interference. 1- dual pol switchable, 2- dynamic leveling to compress out noise, 3- ARQ The choice for 900 Mhz radios is florishing right now, all very high grade radios (WaveRider, Alvarion, Tranmgo, Canopy, AirSpan, WaveIP). All have their own little unique benefits that make them special. Alvarion- Mobile. WaveRider- Dual Polarity Diverity. Trango- Dual Pol switchable + ARQ + great diag tools. Canopy- easy interface w/ diag statistic for Jitter and such. But as far as surviving noise, not confident that Canopy shines in that territory above Trango. I just don't believe it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil over a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the ONLY platform that will work here. We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us.. When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard How do you figure? Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out noise. The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing WRAP or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender. For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for indoor CPEs located on the court. But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its sleve similar. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a -55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the perfect world and can run noise/interference free :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of danlist Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the existing Trango Canopy 900mhz systems Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5 Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928MHzMini- PCICard Omfg. That's awesome. Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHzMini- PCICard Brian Just and FYI Demarc has
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
This just goes to underscore the importance of staying flexible. What works for one guy sucks for another. Empirical data based on LOCAL conditions rules! grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil over a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the ONLY platform that will work here. We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us.. When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard How do you figure? Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out noise. The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing WRAP or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender. For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for indoor CPEs located on the court. But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its sleve similar. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a -55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the perfect world and can run noise/interference free :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of danlist Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the existing Trango Canopy 900mhz systems Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5 Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928MHzMini- PCICard Omfg. That's awesome. Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHzMini- PCICard Brian Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it. The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or 1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do 4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure it will be less then anything on the market today with more options, we will have to wait and see :) Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHz Mini-PCICard http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14626823 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
OK, talking about all of the ways that Trango has to fine tune the radios has me thinking. I've got two systems that I'm having some trouble with. Both are low to the ground and I'm sure I'm seeing multipath. GREAT speed tests radio to radio but poor data rates and high error rates (5% most of the time). Still much better than the wifi it's replaced but it needs to be better. I don't know the cli on these radios and don't have the time, desire or need to learn. I do need some help from someone that knows them insideout. Anyone need an hour or two of consulting to help me get these two systems polished up so that they run at full speed? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard JohnnyO, When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment Of course every environment is different. But We have with great success with Trango. Try colocating right next to qty 5 - 929Mhz 500 watt OMNIs, and the same horizontal plain in Urban america with -60db RSSIs from them, -30db RSSIs on the top channel. Feel free to share one technical reason why the Canopy is capable of dealing with interference better than Trango. (other than personal experience, because that can not be verified or accurately debated). My guess is in your environment, you weren't taking advantage of Trango's flexibility and using the best polarity for the job. I find most noise, such as from SCADA systems, are on verticle polarity, very easy to combat with a radio like Trango that supports horizontal pol antennas on the fly. You probably were using omnis or testing with Trango default antennas. Try matching up Trango w/ Tiltek Horizontal sector w/ their convenient ext antenna port on all APs and CPEs capable to add narrow beam Yagis. Trango has 3 ways to combat interference. 1- dual pol switchable, 2- dynamic leveling to compress out noise, 3- ARQ The choice for 900 Mhz radios is florishing right now, all very high grade radios (WaveRider, Alvarion, Tranmgo, Canopy, AirSpan, WaveIP). All have their own little unique benefits that make them special. Alvarion- Mobile. WaveRider- Dual Polarity Diverity. Trango- Dual Pol switchable + ARQ + great diag tools. Canopy- easy interface w/ diag statistic for Jitter and such. But as far as surviving noise, not confident that Canopy shines in that territory above Trango. I just don't believe it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil over a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the ONLY platform that will work here. We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us.. When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard How do you figure? Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out noise. The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing WRAP or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender. For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for indoor CPEs located on the court. But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its sleve similar. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a -55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the perfect world and can run noise/interference free :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
How do you figure? Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out noise. The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing WRAP or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender. For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for indoor CPEs located on the court. But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its sleve similar. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a -55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the perfect world and can run noise/interference free :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of danlist Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the existing Trango Canopy 900mhz systems Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5 Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928MHzMini- PCICard Omfg. That's awesome. Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHzMini- PCICard Brian Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it. The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or 1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do 4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure it will be less then anything on the market today with more options, we will have to wait and see :) Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHz Mini-PCICard http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14626823 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
How do I figure ? Trango never worked here - Alvarion did for a lil over a year - WaveIP didn't work - WaveRider didn't work - Canopy is the ONLY platform that will work here. We're using sector antennas and using the water tower as a shield for the 100s of 100watt scada systems just 5-10 miles away from us.. When you can tell me you've installed In this type of noisy environment with your Trango, I would be very very eager to listen. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard How do you figure? Our tests have shown that the Trango outperform the Canopy in noisy enviroment based on its built in dynamic leveling to compress out noise. The advantage of the Ubiquiti 900M, is its ease to add to an existing WRAP or Mikrotik AP, for a relay radio / cell extender. For example, 5.8 or 5.3 to the neighborhood court, and then 900Mhz for indoor CPEs located on the court. But Ubiquiti is not the only radio manufacturer with a plan up its sleve similar. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:54 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a -55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the perfect world and can run noise/interference free :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of danlist Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the existing Trango Canopy 900mhz systems Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5 Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928MHzMini- PCICard Omfg. That's awesome. Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHzMini- PCICard Brian Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it. The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or 1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do 4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure it will be less then anything on the market today with more options, we will have to wait and see :) Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHz Mini-PCICard http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14626823 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344
RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a -55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the perfect world and can run noise/interference free :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of danlist Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the existing Trango Canopy 900mhz systems Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5 Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928MHzMini- PCICard Omfg. That's awesome. Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHzMini- PCICard Brian Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it. The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or 1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do 4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure it will be less then anything on the market today with more options, we will have to wait and see :) Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHz Mini-PCICard http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14626823 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
Title: Message Ask Rick Smith ! - we cannot install here unless we have a -52 or better ! DOH ! This gives us a 1/2 mile operating radius with 900mhz ! :) JohnnyO -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis JohnsonSent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:16 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICardHopefully you aren't really installing customers that have a -55 to -60 noise floor. How reliable of a signal can they really have?TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a -55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the perfect world and can run "noise/interference" free :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of danlist Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the existing Trango Canopy 900mhz systems Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5 Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928MHzMini- PCICard Omfg. That's awesome. Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHzMini- PCICard Brian Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it. The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or 1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do 4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure it will be less then anything on the market today with more options, we will have to wait and see :) Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHz Mini-PCICard http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14626823 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard
Title: Message I just ran across the same thing in NJ near a power plant. I'm installing customers, but the noise floor's -71 - so that means they need a 59 signal or better. ouch. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyOSent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:55 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard Ask Rick Smith ! - we cannot install here unless we have a -52 or better ! DOH ! This gives us a 1/2 mile operating radius with 900mhz ! :) JohnnyO -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis JohnsonSent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:16 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICardHopefully you aren't really installing customers that have a -55 to -60 noise floor. How reliable of a signal can they really have?TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: Hate to say it Dan, BUT - Trango and Atheros get's it's ass kicked by Canopy - Canopy is the ONLY 900mhz Platform that will work for us in a -55 to -60 noise floor situation - so hopefully - you live In the perfect world and can run "noise/interference" free :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of danlist Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard This is awesome, I knew this was coming, ideally once it works with MT with adjustable channel width (ie: 5mhz or 10mhz) - you should be able to push some serious throughput on that 5mhz channel compared to the existing Trango Canopy 900mhz systems Hopefully the pricing on the radio is the same as the sr2/sr5 Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928MHzMini- PCICard Omfg. That's awesome. Since it's standard Atheros, wonder what the chances of getting it integrated into Mikrotik quickly are ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHzMini- PCICard Brian Just and FYI Demarc has know about this for some time and as soon as its ready to go we will have CPE and base units that will support it. The CPE will come with 10dBi or 12dBi options as well as the 250mW or 1 Watt output options. While not locked down we should be able to do 4, 2 or 1 OFDM non overlapping channels which can be used for either CPE or backhaul designs. The units will also have polling to get the most out of the 900Mhz band. Also pricing is not set but we are sure it will be less then anything on the market today with more options, we will have to wait and see :) Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928 MHz Mini-PCICard http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14626823 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
