Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Ray, Congratulations on the sudden positive change in WalMarts behavior. Please keep us updated. If any wireless issues or questions come up during discussions with their engineer please post those questions or issues. Thanks, jack Ray Jean wrote: Hello Everyone Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made contact. We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within the legal limits and could not change anything to help with our interference problem.I ask if they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us a chance to relocate to a new site. They agreed to two weeks which suprised me.When they turned it off all of our links instantly went back to working including the one inside their store at the eye doctors office.We start looking for a new site and equipment to install on it. Well today walmart calls us and say they want to work with us on the problem and they are sending a engineer to this store to check for a possible rogue piece of equipment and possibly trying to place some type of schielding between them and us IF we will QUIT posting info about this problem on broadband reports forum.I am amazed that they changed their whole attitude because of a little bad pr. Maybe we will be able to find a solution to the problem now that they seem willing to cooperate.Again thanks to everone who offered their advice on the situation. Ray Hill surfmore.net -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
That rocks! Great work! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Jean Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update Hello Everyone Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within the legal limits and could not change anything to help with our interference problem.I ask if they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us a chance to relocate to a new site.They agreed to two weeks which suprised me.When they turned it off all of our links instantly went back to working including the one inside their store at the eye doctors office.We start looking for a new site and equipment to install on it.Well today walmart calls us and say they want to work with us on the problem and they are sending a engineer to this store to check for a possible rogue piece of equipment and possibly trying to place some type of schielding between them and us IF we will QUIT posting info about this problem on broadband reports forum.I am amazed that they changed their whole attitude because of a little bad pr.Maybe we will be able to find a solution to the problem now that they seem willing to cooperate.Again thanks to everone who offered their advice on the situation. Ray Hill surfmore.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
That's great Ray Can you post the contact info here in case someone else runs into this issue?? Thanks and good luck with them Bob Ray Jean wrote: Hello Everyone Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within the legal limits and could not change anything to help with our interference problem.I ask if they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us a chance to relocate to a new site.They agreed to two weeks which suprised me.When they turned it off all of our links instantly went back to working including the one inside their store at the eye doctors office.We start looking for a new site and equipment to install on it.Well today walmart calls us and say they want to work with us on the problem and they are sending a engineer to this store to check for a possible rogue piece of equipment and possibly trying to place some type of schielding between them and us IF we will QUIT posting info about this problem on broadband reports forum.I am amazed that they changed their whole attitude because of a little bad pr.Maybe we will be able to find a solution to the problem now that they seem willing to cooperate.Again thanks to everone who offered their advice on the situation. Ray Hill surfmore.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Please let us know what you end up doing to resolve the problem, we have wal-marts in 2 of our towns and we run 900. I'm sure it is coming Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Jean Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update Hello Everyone Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within the legal limits and could not change anything to help with our interference problem.I ask if they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us a chance to relocate to a new site.They agreed to two weeks which suprised me.When they turned it off all of our links instantly went back to working including the one inside their store at the eye doctors office.We start looking for a new site and equipment to install on it.Well today walmart calls us and say they want to work with us on the problem and they are sending a engineer to this store to check for a possible rogue piece of equipment and possibly trying to place some type of schielding between them and us IF we will QUIT posting info about this problem on broadband reports forum.I am amazed that they changed their whole attitude because of a little bad pr.Maybe we will be able to find a solution to the problem now that they seem willing to cooperate.Again thanks to everone who offered their advice on the situation. Ray Hill surfmore.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Dylan, Wal-mart found out about the post on www.dslreports.com on their own. It was a news topic on the main page that pointed to the forum thread. There was really nothing negative mentioned in the topic( well one thing , but more of a last resort kind of fix ), rather trying to get some information about getting away from the interference. They may take it as bad pr though. Thanks, Ryan Dylan Oliver wrote: Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press. Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start, as it's every bit as searchable as the forums! Best, -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
I did not mention broadband reports,they found it on their own.I was unaware that one of our partners was posting there asking for input on the problem.They didnt mention this thread,maybe haven't discovered it yet.We sure were relieved when they called and acted sincere about resolving the problem.I will post the contact info here when we meet with their rep.That way if the problem shows up in your neighborhood you will know who to call without spending days trying to get to the right person.Never underestimate the power of the internet or press. Thanks Ray Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press. Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start, as it's every bit as searchable as the forums! Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/721 - Release Date: 3/13/2007 4:51 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
For those that have walmarts in their area, I would suggest starting talking to them ahead of time, you may be able it prevent the same problem from happening on your towers. I would bet all walmarts will start using rfid's in the next couple of years. Ryan On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 09:41 -0500, Ray Jean wrote: I did not mention broadband reports,they found it on their own.I was unaware that one of our partners was posting there asking for input on the problem.They didnt mention this thread,maybe haven't discovered it yet.We sure were relieved when they called and acted sincere about resolving the problem.I will post the contact info here when we meet with their rep.That way if the problem shows up in your neighborhood you will know who to call without spending days trying to get to the right person.Never underestimate the power of the internet or press. Thanks Ray Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press. Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start, as it's every bit as searchable as the forums! Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/721 - Release Date: 3/13/2007 4:51 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Is it only a concern for 900 Mhz? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update For those that have walmarts in their area, I would suggest starting talking to them ahead of time, you may be able it prevent the same problem from happening on your towers. I would bet all walmarts will start using rfid's in the next couple of years. Ryan On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 09:41 -0500, Ray Jean wrote: I did not mention broadband reports,they found it on their own.I was unaware that one of our partners was posting there asking for input on the problem.They didnt mention this thread,maybe haven't discovered it yet.We sure were relieved when they called and acted sincere about resolving the problem.I will post the contact info here when we meet with their rep.That way if the problem shows up in your neighborhood you will know who to call without spending days trying to get to the right person.Never underestimate the power of the internet or press. Thanks Ray Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press. Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start, as it's every bit as searchable as the forums! Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/721 - Release Date: 3/13/2007 4:51 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Mark, The RFID equipment that Wal-Mart is implementing is in the 900Mhz band . Mark McElvy wrote: Is it only a concern for 900 Mhz? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update For those that have walmarts in their area, I would suggest starting talking to them ahead of time, you may be able it prevent the same problem from happening on your towers. I would bet all walmarts will start using rfid's in the next couple of years. Ryan On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 09:41 -0500, Ray Jean wrote: I did not mention broadband reports,they found it on their own.I was unaware that one of our partners was posting there asking for input on the problem.They didnt mention this thread,maybe haven't discovered it yet.We sure were relieved when they called and acted sincere about resolving the problem.I will post the contact info here when we meet with their rep.That way if the problem shows up in your neighborhood you will know who to call without spending days trying to get to the right person.Never underestimate the power of the internet or press. Thanks Ray Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press. Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start, as it's every bit as searchable as the forums! Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/721 - Release Date: 3/13/2007 4:51 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Here is a link to the specific page at Broadband Reports: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/82238?brk=2 You can bet there was a good reason that made it to the front page there too. ;-) Ryan Morgan wrote: Dylan, Wal-mart found out about the post on www.dslreports.com on their own. It was a news topic on the main page that pointed to the forum thread. There was really nothing negative mentioned in the topic( well one thing , but more of a last resort kind of fix ), rather trying to get some information about getting away from the interference. They may take it as bad pr though. Thanks, Ryan Dylan Oliver wrote: Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press. Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start, as it's every bit as searchable as the forums! Best, -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
It's nice to see them do the right thing. Too bad it had to happen that way. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Ray Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update Hello Everyone Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within the legal limits and could not change anything to help with our interference problem.I ask if they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us a chance to relocate to a new site.They agreed to two weeks which suprised me.When they turned it off all of our links instantly went back to working including the one inside their store at the eye doctors office.We start looking for a new site and equipment to install on it.Well today walmart calls us and say they want to work with us on the problem and they are sending a engineer to this store to check for a possible rogue piece of equipment and possibly trying to place some type of schielding between them and us IF we will QUIT posting info about this problem on broadband reports forum.I am amazed that they changed their whole attitude because of a little bad pr.Maybe we will be able to find a solution to the problem now that they seem willing to cooperate.Again thanks to everone who offered their advice on the situation. Ray Hill surfmore.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Wow, so the bad PR worked, eh? When you meet their guy, let him know we just want to get along ;) - get his name number, invite him to dinner and make friends. It's always good to get a guy on the inside! On 3/14/07, Ray Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within the legal limits and could not change anything to help with our interference problem.I ask if they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us a chance to relocate to a new site.They agreed to two weeks which suprised me.When they turned it off all of our links instantly went back to working including the one inside their store at the eye doctors office.We start looking for a new site and equipment to install on it.Well today walmart calls us and say they want to work with us on the problem and they are sending a engineer to this store to check for a possible rogue piece of equipment and possibly trying to place some type of schielding between them and us IF we will QUIT posting info about this problem on broadband reports forum.I am amazed that they changed their whole attitude because of a little bad pr.Maybe we will be able to find a solution to the problem now that they seem willing to cooperate.Again thanks to everone who offered their advice on the situation. Ray Hill surfmore.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press. Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start, as it's every bit as searchable as the forums! Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
Also report back what actually was done as I also have a walmart and a 900 system. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Dylan Oliver wrote: Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press. Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start, as it's every bit as searchable as the forums! Best, -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
