Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing - Done Deal
I just can't help but think that all these mergers and speedy, favorable rulings and the continued sellout of competition to at&t is little more than a reward for it's blatantely illegal cooperation in the warrantless wiretapping of the internet by the nsa. AT&T was broken up for some very good reasons, and I see no reason to have allowed it's reassembly other than the fact that it's easier to deal with one big concern than thousands of little tiny ones when it comes to domestic spying Tom DeReggi wrote: The problem isn't the final negotiation of the final hour of the merger terms, as effort was put to add a few extras for consumers and competitors, to take attention off the fact that consumers just got screwed. The problem is that the merger was approved in the first place by the justice department in October. Today's deal closing was no surprise. But none the less one more tragic loss for competition. We all know any concession offered is pointless, when they can't be inforced, once a monopoly has taken over and is in control. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing - Done Deal Looks like it's a done deal. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061229/ap_on_bi_ge/att_bellsouth Should be interesting to see: 1. If AT&T lives up to the terms of the deal. 2. If anybody watches to see if AT&T lives up to the terms of the deal. 3. If there's any enforcement action when somebody (assuming somebody does watch) sees that AT&T is not living up to the terms of the deal. 4. Who gets the 2.5 GHz spectrum. 5. What the competitive telecommunications/Internet landscape looks like 3 years from now. jack Jack Unger wrote: More comments... http://www.savetheinternet.com/=wu http://gigaom.com/2006/12/29/att-knows-when-to-fold-em/ http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=113531&WT.svl=news1_3 http://news.com.com/ATT+offers+more+for+BellSouth+deal+approval/2100-1036_3-6146271.html?tag=nefd.top http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/80579 jack Jack Unger wrote: Here's a "Beware the Fine Print" comment... http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/006164.html jack Matt Liotta wrote: http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing - Done Deal
The problem isn't the final negotiation of the final hour of the merger terms, as effort was put to add a few extras for consumers and competitors, to take attention off the fact that consumers just got screwed. The problem is that the merger was approved in the first place by the justice department in October. Today's deal closing was no surprise. But none the less one more tragic loss for competition. We all know any concession offered is pointless, when they can't be inforced, once a monopoly has taken over and is in control. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing - Done Deal Looks like it's a done deal. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061229/ap_on_bi_ge/att_bellsouth Should be interesting to see: 1. If AT&T lives up to the terms of the deal. 2. If anybody watches to see if AT&T lives up to the terms of the deal. 3. If there's any enforcement action when somebody (assuming somebody does watch) sees that AT&T is not living up to the terms of the deal. 4. Who gets the 2.5 GHz spectrum. 5. What the competitive telecommunications/Internet landscape looks like 3 years from now. jack Jack Unger wrote: More comments... http://www.savetheinternet.com/=wu http://gigaom.com/2006/12/29/att-knows-when-to-fold-em/ http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=113531&WT.svl=news1_3 http://news.com.com/ATT+offers+more+for+BellSouth+deal+approval/2100-1036_3-6146271.html?tag=nefd.top http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/80579 jack Jack Unger wrote: Here's a "Beware the Fine Print" comment... http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/006164.html jack Matt Liotta wrote: http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing
why? You're the only one against it *wink* *wink* *nod* *nod* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing Apparently, the rumor is the deal will be approved by the end of the day today. Seems like there should be some time period for public comment. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing - Done Deal
Looks like it's a done deal. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061229/ap_on_bi_ge/att_bellsouth Should be interesting to see: 1. If AT&T lives up to the terms of the deal. 2. If anybody watches to see if AT&T lives up to the terms of the deal. 3. If there's any enforcement action when somebody (assuming somebody does watch) sees that AT&T is not living up to the terms of the deal. 4. Who gets the 2.5 GHz spectrum. 5. What the competitive telecommunications/Internet landscape looks like 3 years from now. jack Jack Unger wrote: More comments... http://www.savetheinternet.com/=wu http://gigaom.com/2006/12/29/att-knows-when-to-fold-em/ http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=113531&WT.svl=news1_3 http://news.com.com/ATT+offers+more+for+BellSouth+deal+approval/2100-1036_3-6146271.html?tag=nefd.top http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/80579 jack Jack Unger wrote: Here's a "Beware the Fine Print" comment... http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/006164.html jack Matt Liotta wrote: http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing
More comments... http://www.savetheinternet.com/=wu http://gigaom.com/2006/12/29/att-knows-when-to-fold-em/ http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=113531&WT.svl=news1_3 http://news.com.com/ATT+offers+more+for+BellSouth+deal+approval/2100-1036_3-6146271.html?tag=nefd.top http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/80579 jack Jack Unger wrote: Here's a "Beware the Fine Print" comment... http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/006164.html jack Matt Liotta wrote: http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing
Hi Jack, We never hooked up to discuss things? I see you are alive and well though. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:23:47 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing > Here's a "Beware the Fine Print" comment... > > > http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/006164.html > > > jack > > > > Matt Liotta wrote: > > > http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf > > -- > Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 > Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" > True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting > Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html > Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing
Here's a "Beware the Fine Print" comment... http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/006164.html jack Matt Liotta wrote: http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing
Interesting comment Within 1 year return all own 2.5Ghz licenses or leases to a third party entity. In otherwords they can sell it to the highest bidder, apposed to donate it to public use. Also promising $10/month DSL. Ouch. Its not easy to enforce mandatory coverage, but it is pretty easy to enforce the sale price. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing Apparently, the rumor is the deal will be approved by the end of the day today. Seems like there should be some time period for public comment. -Matt Matt Liotta wrote: http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing
Apparently, the rumor is the deal will be approved by the end of the day today. Seems like there should be some time period for public comment. -Matt Matt Liotta wrote: http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
