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On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Ohio weather sucks. Zipline would be fun! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Robert West > <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: > >> Me thinks Stuart likes Columbus. >> >> OSU grad, Stuart? >> >> I like the town too. A lot less than a cow town as it used to be. >> >> Bob- >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Stuart Pierce >> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:37 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> Have I mentioned Columbus Ohio ? Downtown has everything, German Village, >> Italian Village, Victorian Village and Campus. >> >> Oh food, wine and song as well. >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: "Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:10:24 -0500 >> >>> I agree here with Marlon that I am afraid that it will turn into an >>> ISPCon event. I learn and enjoy a show like MUM or AFMUG much better >>> than ISPCon. As both a Vendor and an ISP member, shows like ISPCon >>> don't have the intimacy like a smaller show does. I could care less if >>> it is in Vegas, or some other place, so long as it provides: >>> >>> 1) A chance to meet with other companies in our industry, large, medium, >>> or small. >>> 2) A chance to meet with other vendors and work with their special niche >>> in the market, and have those vendors be WISPA member vendors, not just >>> any vendor. >>> 3) A highspeed internet connection to make sure I can stay in touch with >>> home to make sure business continues. >>> 4) Close to the airport, reasonable accommodations, and good food is a >>> plus. >>> 5) Be reasonable in price. $250 is WAYYYYY too much for me to attend as >>> an ISP to a tradeshow. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck Hogg >>> Shelby Broadband >>> 502-722-9292 >>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:00 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Cc: wispas...@wispa.org >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> Hi Matt, >>> >>> I'm moving this back to the show list. I still request that wispashow >>> emails reply to that list not the public one :-). >>> >>> Anyway, I understand what you are saying. As our local Chamber of >>> Commerce >>> president here's my latest project: >>> http://www.odessachamber.net/bikeweek >>> >>> Almost all I'm doing is managing the folks doing the leg work. Herding >>> the >>> cats as it were... It's certainly quite a bit of work. >>> >>> We're expecting 200 to 400 people to show up during the week. On the >>> weekend the 40th annual Desert 100 race will bring in roughly 6000 >>> people. >>> http://www.stumpjumpers.org >>> >>> The race takes nearly an entire year to pull off. There is a race >>> chairman >>> and a vice. This year's vice becomes next year's chairman. Much of the >>> >>> physical work involves marking the track, a task that has to be done all >>> >>> over every year because the ground is normally a production cattle >>> ranch. >>> >>> I certainly agree with you that the lack of a very dedicated team of 2 >>> or 3 >>> people would certainly hurt our chances of success. If we can't get the >>> >>> help, have no one ready to step up and take ownership of the event etc. >>> we >>> need to find a different way. >>> >>> So far, however, this hasn't been hashed out on the show list. Perhaps >>> we >>> do have the people ready to dedicate themselves to the effort. >>> >>> Also, one thing that it seems to me that needs to be done is setting >>> some >>> kind of show expectation and outline. How many people are expected, how >>> >>> many vendors, do we want more training or display? How many speakers do >>> we >>> want? Who should speak? >>> >>> Much of the planning we'd have to do will be the same for our own show >>> or >>> one done by someone else. >>> >>> I've been to the big shows (WCA, ISPCon, and others). I've been to car >>> shows and gun shows. By far, my favorites are smaller more intimate >>> settings that are not making any real effort at playing the big shot. I >>> >>> don't care about fancy hotels, convention centers, NFL cities or any of >>> that. I want to see new product, learn from people better than me, and >>> spend time with my peers. >>> >>> My fear with Ed's group is that they will try to put on a fancy schmancy >>> >>> show in which the vendors will have to pay so much for floor space that >>> they'll demand access to the podiums and we'll end up with a "teaching" >>> track that's always slanted in the direction of products rather than the >>> >>> overall nature of our business. >>> >>> Having said all of that. My plate is already as full as I want it. >>> I'll >>> not be putting my time where my mouth is. grin I'm here to help with >>> thoughts and opinions via email but I'll help out as I can which ever >>> way >>> the rest of the committee wishes to see the show move. >>> >>> Thanks for taking the lead on this! >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:31 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> >>>> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your >>> assumptions. >>>> >>>> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of >>>> putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on >>> that >>>> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our >>> own >>>> show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some >>>> potential as a fund raiser. >>>> >>>> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed >>> to >>>> put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show >>> and >>>> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not >>> scale >>>> up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right >>>> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in >>> the >>>> day. >>>> >>>> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are >>> willing >>>> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so >>>> that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP >>>> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show >>>> that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do it >>> on >>>> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can >>> spread >>>> WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong >>>> positives. >>>> >>>> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to >>>> the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. >>> We >>>> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it >>> isn't >>>> really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements >>> go >>>> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have >>> a >>>> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it >>> done >>>> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of >>> doing >>>> on our own. >>>> >>>> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so >>>> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to >>>> happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to >>>> get a show put on. >>>> >>>> Matt Larsen >>>> vistabeam.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>> forwarding to the list. >>>>> >>>>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list >>> rather >>>>> than to the sender? Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. We >>> need >>>>> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. >>>>> >>>>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show. >>> I >>>>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more >>>>> intimate >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the >>> year. >>>>> It >>>>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. We >>> know >>>>> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, what >>> >>>>> would >>>>> need to be presented. >>>>> >>>>> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just has >>> to >>>>> DO a >>>>> show. >>>>> >>>>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes >>> things. >>>>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for >>> here >>>>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. >>>>> >>>>> laters, >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: <li...@manageisp.com> >>>>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Marlon, >>>>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts >>> into >>>>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both >>> >>>>>> sides >>>>>> are happy with the performance of his show. >>>>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit >>>>>> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the >>> profit, >>>>>> if >>>>>> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership >>> numbers >>>>>> and >>>>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out >>> >>>>>> about >>>>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members. >>>>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we >>> >>>>>> will >>>>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. >>>>>> Also, >>>>>> it should cost us little or no money. >>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How >>>>>>> clear >>>>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our >>> own >>>>>>> show >>>>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end >>> up >>>>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? >>> Where >>>>>>> there is no profit to split? >>>>>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com> >>>>>>> To: <wispas...@wispa.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and >>>>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to >>> work >>>>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with >>> WISPA >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. >>>>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed so >>> far >>>>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional >>> efforts, >>>>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband >>>>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on >>> what >>>>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type >>> discussions) >>>>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able to >>>>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. There >>> was >>>>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to >>>>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA >>> before >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> show. >>>>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in >>> this >>>>>>>> show. There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will >>> share >>>>>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters. >>>>>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we >>> can >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> them worked out. >>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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