Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues
Hey Mark, Is your AP running 3.17 and firmware 2.18? If not try updating. Try setting hardware retries to 10 and preamble to either short or long (whatever Tranzio runs). I use short on MT clients. Jim 314-565-6863 Mark McElvy wrote: 12, all Tranzeo CPQ except one. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues Multiple CPEs on the same AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid -60s to -90s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues
Multiple CPEs on the same AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid -60s to -90s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues
12, all Tranzeo CPQ except one. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues Multiple CPEs on the same AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid -60s to -90s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues
All of the CPEs on that one AP? Or all of the Tranzeo CPEs on that AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: 12, all Tranzeo CPQ except one. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues Multiple CPEs on the same AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid -60s to -90s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues
There are 12 clients total on the AP -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues All of the CPEs on that one AP? Or all of the Tranzeo CPEs on that AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: 12, all Tranzeo CPQ except one. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues Multiple CPEs on the same AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid -60s to -90s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues
Tried rebooting the AP and changing channels yet? Do you have the capability to try a CPE of your own in a good position both near and far from the tower? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: There are 12 clients total on the AP -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues All of the CPEs on that one AP? Or all of the Tranzeo CPEs on that AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: 12, all Tranzeo CPQ except one. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues Multiple CPEs on the same AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid -60s to -90s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:58 PM To: mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denominator is weather, it is currently about 10 deg F and we had some, not a lot of freezing rain last night. This tower is running a RB 433 w/ XR2 and HPol omni. New in spring due to lightning storm. The only time I experienced issues last year was with heavy icing. Any thought? Would you think it's the ice or maybe freezing moisture in the enclosure? Mark in South central Missouri WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless