Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-05 Thread David Hulsebus
I have a few horizontal and they do tend to traverse through woods 
better than the verticals, but the noise floor for us is just the 
opposite. There are a half dozen Canopy systems running horizontal 
omni's just to my east destroying most of the 900 spectrum. I don't have 
any sectors wider than 120 deg.- most 60 to100 and all the verticals I 
have are Antel.  I use one 120 MTI  horizontal and one pac wireless 120 
horizontal.

I do have a one Tranzeo that uses the integrated panel to feed three 
houses. I would have to look and see if it's vertical or horizontal, 
it's been a few years since I've been up that tower and it points away 
from the rest of my network so I've never really cared.

I guess I like the Cushcraft's because of durability and mostly within 
2-3 miles we use a 6dbd that costs about $35 verses the 13 dbd that 
costs $130 for further out.

Thanks again, Dave

D. Ryan Spott wrote:
> David Hulsebus wrote:
>   
>> Ryan, How do you like the Moonblink antennas?
>> 
> Eh, they are OK. Getting timely shipping and shipping information out of 
> Moonblink makes ordering from them a head-ache for my ordering person.
> The antennas are sleek aluminum but they are fragile so you can't handle 
> them much past one installation.
>   
>> I've been using Cushcraft 
>> for some time, they've worked very well. I've used the M2inc. but found 
>> rain to be an issue with the open round beam holding water.
>>
>> If I have line of sight I can get 8-10 miles out of a link, but never 
>> through many trees. I have two small 120 vertical sectors using Tranzeo 
>> and I wish we could get links that are as stable as the WaveRiders we 
>> have in place. I do use a 908.4 filter on the Tranzeos and reduced my 
>> noise floor from -75 to -95. They  were designed for WaveRiders but work 
>> well for a 5MHz channel at 908 on the Tranzeos. I even tried the 
>> Mikrotik 900 and had even poorer luck with them.
>>   
>> 
> Ditch the Verticle sectors. They are noise vacuums. I am using a simple 
> TR902-11 panel for my AP. When I use the sectors my noise floor gets so 
> loud as to make the AP unusable.
>   
>> I won't say the WaveRiders were my best decision, but having tested 
>> Trango, Canopy first, it was the best for my environment at the time. 
>> I've still got 400 EUM3000-3005's in place across 15 sectors. We can get 
>> 1.2MB down and 800K up for about 30-35 clients. We added their new 
>> CCU8000 and a dozen clients so far on a new build out this year and 
>> expect to max out at 30-40 subs per AP and if they are like the 
>> CCU3000's will still give everyone 6 MB down and 4 MB up. We pay 
>> extremely high prices for the WaveRider EUM's which really hurts the ROI.
>>   
>> 
> Yeah, the waveriders. I think the only reason you have the CCU3000s is 
> because of the competitive pressure of Tranzeo/UBNT handing out 
> 802.11b/g type speeds over 900mhz.
>
> ryan
>   
>> Dave
>>
>> D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> http://www.tranzeofaq.com/images/lewis.jpg
>>> This is a 900Mhz Client running at 5Mhz on TR902 radios. The AP is a 
>>> TR902-13 and the client is a TR902-N with a 15DB yagi from Moonblink 
>>> wireless. 
>>>
>>> ryan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>   
>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-05 Thread D. Ryan Spott
David Hulsebus wrote:
> Ryan, How do you like the Moonblink antennas?
Eh, they are OK. Getting timely shipping and shipping information out of 
Moonblink makes ordering from them a head-ache for my ordering person.
The antennas are sleek aluminum but they are fragile so you can't handle 
them much past one installation.
> I've been using Cushcraft 
> for some time, they've worked very well. I've used the M2inc. but found 
> rain to be an issue with the open round beam holding water.
>
> If I have line of sight I can get 8-10 miles out of a link, but never 
> through many trees. I have two small 120 vertical sectors using Tranzeo 
> and I wish we could get links that are as stable as the WaveRiders we 
> have in place. I do use a 908.4 filter on the Tranzeos and reduced my 
> noise floor from -75 to -95. They  were designed for WaveRiders but work 
> well for a 5MHz channel at 908 on the Tranzeos. I even tried the 
> Mikrotik 900 and had even poorer luck with them.
>   
Ditch the Verticle sectors. They are noise vacuums. I am using a simple 
TR902-11 panel for my AP. When I use the sectors my noise floor gets so 
loud as to make the AP unusable.
> I won't say the WaveRiders were my best decision, but having tested 
> Trango, Canopy first, it was the best for my environment at the time. 
> I've still got 400 EUM3000-3005's in place across 15 sectors. We can get 
> 1.2MB down and 800K up for about 30-35 clients. We added their new 
> CCU8000 and a dozen clients so far on a new build out this year and 
> expect to max out at 30-40 subs per AP and if they are like the 
> CCU3000's will still give everyone 6 MB down and 4 MB up. We pay 
> extremely high prices for the WaveRider EUM's which really hurts the ROI.
>   
Yeah, the waveriders. I think the only reason you have the CCU3000s is 
because of the competitive pressure of Tranzeo/UBNT handing out 
802.11b/g type speeds over 900mhz.

ryan
> Dave
>
> D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>   
>> http://www.tranzeofaq.com/images/lewis.jpg
>> This is a 900Mhz Client running at 5Mhz on TR902 radios. The AP is a 
>> TR902-13 and the client is a TR902-N with a 15DB yagi from Moonblink 
>> wireless. 
>>
>> ryan
>>
>>
>>
>> 




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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-04 Thread Joe Miller

I'm currently using a 900mhz Trango SU for this one micro-site. The tower is 
35ft tall, and I'm using 2.4 ghz for the AP. There is about 25 homes in this 
area. I put up the site hoping to get at least 5 of them. With the work of 
mouth traveling in that area, I ended up with 90% of the homes there. The ones 
that didn't want the service were old couples that didn't use the Internet. I 
will be replacing the 35ft tower with a 60ft self support tower, and upgrading 
to a pair of Deliberant 900mhz radios. 

If you are going to be in the WISP business, you have to be part speculator.



- Original Message 
From: RickG 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:48:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

LOL, I've thought about going into the tree trimming/cutting business
to complement the WISP! I've cut my share for customers. I'm the only
one around here that likes tornadoes & ice storms :)
-RickG

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:
> Have you tried the MS 880 STIHL MagnumT Chain Saw.  It will do wonders for
> link integrity! :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:28 AM
> To: w...@part-15.org
> Cc: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
>
>
>
>
>> Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ?
>
> Not detecting any.  Could be a phone or something though.  Something that
> comes and goes.  This really seemed to start with a change in the weather
> though.
>
>> Try something other than Trango ?
>
> Haven't tried that yet.
>
> I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location.
> This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also
> introduce another point of failure.  The best part?  There are only 15 subs
> off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just
> yet.  Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year
> (no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get).  This is
> in a huge storm corridor.
>
> marlon
>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
>> Reply-To: w...@part-15.org
>> Date:  Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700
>>
>>>I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less.
>>>The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.
>>>
>>>What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>marlon
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "RickG" 
>>>To: 
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP
>>>
>>>
>>>I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
>>>pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
>>>did the trick.
>>>-RickG
>>>
>>>On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>>> Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports
>>>> them.
>>>> Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Justin Wilson 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: Jeremy Grip 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
>>>> To: w...@part-15.org
>>>> Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at
>>>> the
>>>> far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of
>>>> QOS
>>>> for VoIP, and price matters.
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy Grip
>>>> North Branch Networks, LLC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread RickG
LOL, I've thought about going into the tree trimming/cutting business
to complement the WISP! I've cut my share for customers. I'm the only
one around here that likes tornadoes & ice storms :)
-RickG

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:
> Have you tried the MS 880 STIHL MagnumT Chain Saw.  It will do wonders for
> link integrity! :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:28 AM
> To: w...@part-15.org
> Cc: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
>
>
>
>
>> Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ?
>
> Not detecting any.  Could be a phone or something though.  Something that
> comes and goes.  This really seemed to start with a change in the weather
> though.
>
>> Try something other than Trango ?
>
> Haven't tried that yet.
>
> I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location.
> This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also
> introduce another point of failure.  The best part?  There are only 15 subs
> off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just
> yet.  Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year
> (no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get).  This is
> in a huge storm corridor.
>
> marlon
>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
>> Reply-To: w...@part-15.org
>> Date:  Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700
>>
>>>I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less.
>>>The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.
>>>
>>>What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>marlon
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "RickG" 
>>>To: 
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP
>>>
>>>
>>>I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
>>>pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
>>>did the trick.
>>>-RickG
>>>
>>>On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>>> Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports
>>>> them.
>>>> Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Justin Wilson 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: Jeremy Grip 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
>>>> To: w...@part-15.org
>>>> Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at
>>>> the
>>>> far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of
>>>> QOS
>>>> for VoIP, and price matters.
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy Grip
>>>> North Branch Networks, LLC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread Blair Davis




Because it just runs and runs and runs...

I use it every year.  gone thru more chains than I can count.  I live
in Michigan and heat with wood.

rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:

  How could you?   They had no redeeming qualities when new :)

Of course, there's really nothing to say about a Poulan or Echo, either, 
other than they look cute in catalogs :)

BTW, what's the farthest distance any of you have gotten through "forest" 
with 900mhz?







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From: "Blair Davis" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP


  
  
I like my 30 year old Johnsred...

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
LOL

I don't have a Stihl.  I have a Pulan and an Echo though!  hehehehe

It would sure be nice to be able to do that!
marlon


  
  



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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread Blair Davis




The problem is the gas melts the plastic...

Kevin Neal wrote:

  A Supersoaker full of gasoline and a match would make quick work of
trees..still haven't tried it yet.
-Kevin


On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Blair Davis  wrote:

  
  
 I like my 30 year old Johnsred...


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

LOL

I don't have a Stihl.  I have a Pulan and an Echo though!  hehehehe

It would sure be nice to be able to do that!
marlon

- Original Message -
From: "Rick Harnish"  
To: "'WISPA General List'"  
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP




 Have you tried the MS 880 STIHL MagnumT Chain Saw.  It will do wonders for
link integrity! :)

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:28 AM
To: w...@part-15.org
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP






 Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ?


 Yes.



 Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ?


 Not detecting any.  Could be a phone or something though.  Something that
comes and goes.  This really seemed to start with a change in the weather
though.



 Try something other than Trango ?


 Haven't tried that yet.

I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location.
This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also
introduce another point of failure.  The best part?  There are only 15
subs
off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just
yet.  Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year
(no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get).  This
is
in a huge storm corridor.

marlon



 -- Original Message --
From: "Marlon K. Schafer"  
Reply-To: w...@part-15.org
Date:  Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700



 I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less.
The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.

What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.

thanks,
marlon

- Original Message -
From: "RickG"  
To:  
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP


I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
did the trick.
-RickG

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson   wrote:


 Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports
them.
Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.

Justin


--
Justin Wilson  


From: Jeremy Grip  
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
To: w...@part-15.org
Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP

Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at
the
far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of
QOS
for VoIP, and price matters.

TIA,

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks, LLC










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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread David Hulsebus
Ryan, How do you like the Moonblink antennas? I've been using Cushcraft 
for some time, they've worked very well. I've used the M2inc. but found 
rain to be an issue with the open round beam holding water.

If I have line of sight I can get 8-10 miles out of a link, but never 
through many trees. I have two small 120 vertical sectors using Tranzeo 
and I wish we could get links that are as stable as the WaveRiders we 
have in place. I do use a 908.4 filter on the Tranzeos and reduced my 
noise floor from -75 to -95. They  were designed for WaveRiders but work 
well for a 5MHz channel at 908 on the Tranzeos. I even tried the 
Mikrotik 900 and had even poorer luck with them.

I won't say the WaveRiders were my best decision, but having tested 
Trango, Canopy first, it was the best for my environment at the time. 
I've still got 400 EUM3000-3005's in place across 15 sectors. We can get 
1.2MB down and 800K up for about 30-35 clients. We added their new 
CCU8000 and a dozen clients so far on a new build out this year and 
expect to max out at 30-40 subs per AP and if they are like the 
CCU3000's will still give everyone 6 MB down and 4 MB up. We pay 
extremely high prices for the WaveRider EUM's which really hurts the ROI.

Dave

D. Ryan Spott wrote:
> http://www.tranzeofaq.com/images/lewis.jpg
> This is a 900Mhz Client running at 5Mhz on TR902 radios. The AP is a 
> TR902-13 and the client is a TR902-N with a 15DB yagi from Moonblink 
> wireless. 
>
> ryan
>
>
>
> David Hulsebus wrote:
>   
>> 1/2 Mile through dense deciduous trees. About 1mile through a less dense 
>> forest using WaveRider. Evergreen trees less than a 1/4 mile.  I have a 
>> water tank about 2 miles away that when I walk through 50 yards of large 
>> and tall 70-80 ft trees I see plain as day. But even in the winter the 
>> reflections through the trees make it impossible to maintain a quality 
>> link.  I find that if I'm 100 yards from a forest or tree line I have 
>> good results out 3-4 miles
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> How could you?   They had no redeeming qualities when new :)
>>>
>>> Of course, there's really nothing to say about a Poulan or Echo, either, 
>>> other than they look cute in catalogs :)
>>>
>>> BTW, what's the farthest distance any of you have gotten through "forest" 
>>> with 900mhz?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Blair Davis" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> I like my 30 year old Johnsred...
>>>>
>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a Stihl.  I have a Pulan and an Echo though!  hehehehe
>>>>
>>>> It would sure be nice to be able to do that!
>>>> marlon
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread D. Ryan Spott
http://www.tranzeofaq.com/images/lewis.jpg
This is a 900Mhz Client running at 5Mhz on TR902 radios. The AP is a 
TR902-13 and the client is a TR902-N with a 15DB yagi from Moonblink 
wireless. 

ryan



David Hulsebus wrote:
> 1/2 Mile through dense deciduous trees. About 1mile through a less dense 
> forest using WaveRider. Evergreen trees less than a 1/4 mile.  I have a 
> water tank about 2 miles away that when I walk through 50 yards of large 
> and tall 70-80 ft trees I see plain as day. But even in the winter the 
> reflections through the trees make it impossible to maintain a quality 
> link.  I find that if I'm 100 yards from a forest or tree line I have 
> good results out 3-4 miles
>
> Dave
>
> rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
>   
>> How could you?   They had no redeeming qualities when new :)
>>
>> Of course, there's really nothing to say about a Poulan or Echo, either, 
>> other than they look cute in catalogs :)
>>
>> BTW, what's the farthest distance any of you have gotten through "forest" 
>> with 900mhz?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Blair Davis" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> I like my 30 year old Johnsred...
>>>
>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> I don't have a Stihl.  I have a Pulan and an Echo though!  hehehehe
>>>
>>> It would sure be nice to be able to do that!
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread David Hulsebus
1/2 Mile through dense deciduous trees. About 1mile through a less dense 
forest using WaveRider. Evergreen trees less than a 1/4 mile.  I have a 
water tank about 2 miles away that when I walk through 50 yards of large 
and tall 70-80 ft trees I see plain as day. But even in the winter the 
reflections through the trees make it impossible to maintain a quality 
link.  I find that if I'm 100 yards from a forest or tree line I have 
good results out 3-4 miles

Dave

rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
> How could you?   They had no redeeming qualities when new :)
>
> Of course, there's really nothing to say about a Poulan or Echo, either, 
> other than they look cute in catalogs :)
>
> BTW, what's the farthest distance any of you have gotten through "forest" 
> with 900mhz?
>
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Blair Davis" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
>
>
>   
>> I like my 30 year old Johnsred...
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> LOL
>>
>> I don't have a Stihl.  I have a Pulan and an Echo though!  hehehehe
>>
>> It would sure be nice to be able to do that!
>> marlon
>>
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread Gary Garrett
A Supersoaker full of gasoline and a match would definitely fix it so 
you do not care what kind of signal you are getting anymore.



Kevin Neal wrote:
> A Supersoaker full of gasoline and a match would make quick work of
> trees..still haven't tried it yet.
> -Kevin
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread reader
How could you?   They had no redeeming qualities when new :)

Of course, there's really nothing to say about a Poulan or Echo, either, 
other than they look cute in catalogs :)

BTW, what's the farthest distance any of you have gotten through "forest" 
with 900mhz?







- Original Message - 
From: "Blair Davis" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP


>I like my 30 year old Johnsred...
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> LOL
>
> I don't have a Stihl.  I have a Pulan and an Echo though!  hehehehe
>
> It would sure be nice to be able to do that!
> marlon
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread Kevin Neal
A Supersoaker full of gasoline and a match would make quick work of
trees..still haven't tried it yet.
-Kevin


On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Blair Davis  wrote:

>  I like my 30 year old Johnsred...
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>
> LOL
>
> I don't have a Stihl.  I have a Pulan and an Echo though!  hehehehe
>
> It would sure be nice to be able to do that!
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rick Harnish"  
> To: "'WISPA General List'"  
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
>
>
>
>
>  Have you tried the MS 880 STIHL MagnumT Chain Saw.  It will do wonders for
> link integrity! :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> ] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:28 AM
> To: w...@part-15.org
> Cc: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ?
>
>
>  Yes.
>
>
>
>  Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ?
>
>
>  Not detecting any.  Could be a phone or something though.  Something that
> comes and goes.  This really seemed to start with a change in the weather
> though.
>
>
>
>  Try something other than Trango ?
>
>
>  Haven't tried that yet.
>
> I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location.
> This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also
> introduce another point of failure.  The best part?  There are only 15
> subs
> off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just
> yet.  Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year
> (no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get).  This
> is
> in a huge storm corridor.
>
> marlon
>
>
>
>  -- Original Message --
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer"  
> Reply-To: w...@part-15.org
> Date:  Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700
>
>
>
>  I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less.
> The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.
>
> What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.
>
> thanks,
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "RickG"  
> To:  
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP
>
>
> I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
> pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
> did the trick.
> -RickG
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson  
>  wrote:
>
>
>  Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports
> them.
> Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.
>
> Justin
>
>
> --
> Justin Wilson  
>
> 
> From: Jeremy Grip  
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
> To: w...@part-15.org
> Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at
> the
> far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of
> QOS
> for VoIP, and price matters.
>
> TIA,
>
> Jeremy Grip
> North Branch Networks, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread Blair Davis




I like my 30 year old Johnsred...

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

  LOL

I don't have a Stihl.  I have a Pulan and an Echo though!  hehehehe

It would sure be nice to be able to do that!
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harnish" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP


  
  
Have you tried the MS 880 STIHL MagnumT Chain Saw.  It will do wonders for
link integrity! :)

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:28 AM
To: w...@part-15.org
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP






  Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ?
  

Yes.



  Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ?
  

Not detecting any.  Could be a phone or something though.  Something that
comes and goes.  This really seemed to start with a change in the weather
though.



  Try something other than Trango ?
  

Haven't tried that yet.

I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location.
This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also
introduce another point of failure.  The best part?  There are only 15 
subs
off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just
yet.  Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year
(no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get).  This 
is
in a huge storm corridor.

marlon



  -- Original Message --
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
Reply-To: w...@part-15.org
Date:  Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700

  
  
I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less.
The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.

What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.

thanks,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP


I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
did the trick.
-RickG

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:


  Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports
them.
Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.

Justin


--
Justin Wilson 


From: Jeremy Grip 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
To: w...@part-15.org
Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP

Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at
the
far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of
QOS
for VoIP, and price matters.

TIA,

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks, LLC






  



  
  




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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
LOL

I don't have a Stihl.  I have a Pulan and an Echo though!  hehehehe

It would sure be nice to be able to do that!
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harnish" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP


> Have you tried the MS 880 STIHL MagnumT Chain Saw.  It will do wonders for
> link integrity! :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:28 AM
> To: w...@part-15.org
> Cc: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
>
>
>
>
>> Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ?
>
> Not detecting any.  Could be a phone or something though.  Something that
> comes and goes.  This really seemed to start with a change in the weather
> though.
>
>> Try something other than Trango ?
>
> Haven't tried that yet.
>
> I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location.
> This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also
> introduce another point of failure.  The best part?  There are only 15 
> subs
> off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just
> yet.  Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year
> (no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get).  This 
> is
> in a huge storm corridor.
>
> marlon
>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
>> Reply-To: w...@part-15.org
>> Date:  Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700
>>
>>>I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less.
>>>The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.
>>>
>>>What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>marlon
>>>
>>>- Original Message - 
>>>From: "RickG" 
>>>To: 
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP
>>>
>>>
>>>I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
>>>pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
>>>did the trick.
>>>-RickG
>>>
>>>On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>>> Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports
>>>> them.
>>>> Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Justin Wilson 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: Jeremy Grip 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
>>>> To: w...@part-15.org
>>>> Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at
>>>> the
>>>> far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of
>>>> QOS
>>>> for VoIP, and price matters.
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy Grip
>>>> North Branch Networks, LLC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread Rick Harnish
Have you tried the MS 880 STIHL MagnumT Chain Saw.  It will do wonders for
link integrity! :)

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:28 AM
To: w...@part-15.org
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP




> Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ?

Yes.

> Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ?

Not detecting any.  Could be a phone or something though.  Something that 
comes and goes.  This really seemed to start with a change in the weather 
though.

> Try something other than Trango ?

Haven't tried that yet.

I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location. 
This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also 
introduce another point of failure.  The best part?  There are only 15 subs 
off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just 
yet.  Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year 
(no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get).  This is 
in a huge storm corridor.

marlon

>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
> Reply-To: w...@part-15.org
> Date:  Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700
>
>>I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less.
>>The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.
>>
>>What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.
>>
>>thanks,
>>marlon
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: "RickG" 
>>To: 
>>Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
>>Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP
>>
>>
>>I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
>>pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
>>did the trick.
>>-RickG
>>
>>On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>> Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports 
>>> them.
>>> Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Justin Wilson 
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Jeremy Grip 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
>>> To: w...@part-15.org
>>> Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP
>>>
>>> Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at
>>> the
>>> far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of
>>> QOS
>>> for VoIP, and price matters.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Jeremy Grip
>>> North Branch Networks, LLC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer



> Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ?

Yes.

> Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ?

Not detecting any.  Could be a phone or something though.  Something that 
comes and goes.  This really seemed to start with a change in the weather 
though.

> Try something other than Trango ?

Haven't tried that yet.

I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location. 
This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also 
introduce another point of failure.  The best part?  There are only 15 subs 
off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just 
yet.  Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year 
(no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get).  This is 
in a huge storm corridor.

marlon

>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
> Reply-To: w...@part-15.org
> Date:  Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700
>
>>I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less.
>>The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.
>>
>>What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.
>>
>>thanks,
>>marlon
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: "RickG" 
>>To: 
>>Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
>>Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP
>>
>>
>>I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
>>pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
>>did the trick.
>>-RickG
>>
>>On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>> Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports 
>>> them.
>>> Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Justin Wilson 
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Jeremy Grip 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
>>> To: w...@part-15.org
>>> Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP
>>>
>>> Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at
>>> the
>>> far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of
>>> QOS
>>> for VoIP, and price matters.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Jeremy Grip
>>> North Branch Networks, LLC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-03 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE
check out the ligowave stuffif not then probably an XR9 like 
mentioned below


leon

* Marlon K. Schafer wrote, On 6/3/2009 1:09 AM:
I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less. 
The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.


What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.

thanks,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP


I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
did the trick.
-RickG

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
  

Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports them.
Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.

Justin


--
Justin Wilson 


From: Jeremy Grip 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
To: w...@part-15.org
Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP

Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at 
the
far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of 
QOS

for VoIP, and price matters.

TIA,

Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks, LLC



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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

2009-06-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less. 
The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.

What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.

thanks,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP


I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
did the trick.
-RickG

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports them.
> Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.
>
> Justin
>
>
> --
> Justin Wilson 
>
> 
> From: Jeremy Grip 
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
> To: w...@part-15.org
> Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at 
> the
> far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of 
> QOS
> for VoIP, and price matters.
>
> TIA,
>
> Jeremy Grip
> North Branch Networks, LLC
>
>
>
>
>
> 




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