Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread Paul Hendry
[mailto:ghmor...@candlelight.ca] Sent: 01 December 2009 15:35 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link I think the Rockets are going to be great, but right now today the best software is a beta version of 5.1. That pretty much says it all. We have pulled all our MikroTik N links back out

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link We saw the same thing with Mikrotik + N. 4 AP's out there now running 4.1 (best of a bad bunch) in the hope the next release sorts some of the problems. I know this is a bit off topic but does anyone have the v4.0beta releases anywhere

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread Paul Hendry
Nice. Anyone out there know which of the beta releases seemed most stable? -Original Message- From: Chuck Hogg [mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com] Sent: 04 December 2009 13:01 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link http://files.quicklinkwireless.com/mikrotik Regards, Chuck

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
, December 04, 2009 8:05 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Nice. Anyone out there know which of the beta releases seemed most stable? -Original Message- From: Chuck Hogg [mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com] Sent: 04 December 2009 13:01 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread George Morris
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:05 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Nice. Anyone out there know which of the beta releases seemed most stable? -Original Message- From: Chuck Hogg [mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com] Sent

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread Paul Hendry
Nice. Thanks George. Was this just in a PTP environment or PTM also? -Original Message- From: George Morris [mailto:ghmor...@candlelight.ca] Sent: 04 December 2009 13:39 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link We really like beta3. Had some links running 90 days

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread George Morris
mode. They can be a bit reluctant to shift into N modulations otherwise. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:47 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Nice

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread Randy Cosby
and /system routerboard upgrade) George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:05 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Nice. Anyone out there know which

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread George Morris
Longest was 30 miles, next longest was 23. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link What was the distance you

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread Randy Cosby
, 2009 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link What was the distance you guys were able to get on N with these? Randy George Morris wrote: We really like beta3. Had some links running 90 days, and it was fast!! Here is the cheat sheet specifically for beta3

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-04 Thread Robert West
Morris Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Longest was 30 miles, next longest was 23. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Friday, December

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Brad Belton
like. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rwf Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link WOW! It is expensive. Nearly 3% of the revenue from each

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Robert West
Of rwf Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link WOW! It is expensive. Nearly 3% of the revenue from each customer (assuming approx 35.00 monthly per customer) is a nice hit. And whatever their website is done in, does me

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Brad Belton
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:57 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link You mean you don't have a 52 widescreen monitor? Until you get the technology

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Ryan Spott
West Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:57 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link You mean you don't have a 52 widescreen monitor? Until you get the technology that you are SUPPOSED to have, stop your belly aching just because you can't read 8pt type! :) (Joke

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
-- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Funny you mention this...yes, viewing RadioMobile or Wispmon on my twin 30 monitors running 2560 x 1600 each makes for a fair amount

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Robert West
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Funny you mention this...yes, viewing RadioMobile or Wispmon on my twin 30 monitors running 2560 x 1600 each makes for a fair amount of playground. grin Hmmm...twin

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Robert West
Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link I believe there are bigger\better monitors, but I believe you're going up exponentially in price. I know I've seen a DLP projector whose smaller resolution was 3000 or 4000

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread RickG
Belton Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link A relatively nifty new monitoring service out there also has a great path profile tool built-in. The person that is developing the product is a long time wireless operator, so he has

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Robert West
] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link As they say, you get what you pay for. For normal stuff, especially close range, you can use a variety of software packages. But for a high dollar tower, you want someone

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread RickG
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link As they say, you get what you pay for. For normal stuff, especially close range, you can use a variety of software packages. But for a high dollar tower, you want someone with the expertise and the software to give you reliable results. -RickG On Tue, Dec 1

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Robert West
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Same here. I normally use Delorme but in this case, the cost is justified. Besides, I'm passing the cost on to the customer :) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Robert

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Baird
I gotta eat. Someday, though. Someday.. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link As they say, you

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Robert West
Thanks, Mike. I'll give that one a spin. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Been using this one

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Robert West
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Been using this one for quick lookups, requires an account to be established though. http

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread 3-dB Networks
terrain yourself :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Matt Hardy
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Hey, ya know I used that thing a few times a year or so ago but forgot all about

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Nathan Stooke
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link I must have missed the day Ligowave announced 11GHz can go through mountains :-) Your calculator gives no indication of diffraction and multipath... which is often larger issues with licensed gear

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread ccrum
General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link A relatively nifty new monitoring service out there also has a great path profile tool built-in. The person that is developing the product is a long time wireless operator, so he has a very good feel for what our industry needs. www.wispmon.com

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread Matt Hardy
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 14:35 -0700, 3-dB Networks wrote: I must have missed the day Ligowave announced 11GHz can go through mountains :-) LOL... most 11GHz can't, only LigoWave. ;) We'll look into this and see what's going on with this link. Your calculator gives no indication of diffraction

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-02 Thread 3-dB Networks
or rain fade related. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hardy Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] 20 mile link Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is building a 100' tower just

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Mike
Rick: You have been getting some good advice here. I am not a networking guru and have never played one on TV, but do know a thing or two about RF. It seems with your physical layout you may have an opportunity for some space diversity. A simple link will probably serve you with 3 nines or

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Robert West
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 20 mile link Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread George Morris
To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link At first I was like huh? but thinking of the now and present, the Rockets are new and the longevity has yet to be tested. I have both UBNT and MT backhauls, love UBNT to no end but it's from the ease of use aspect. My UBNT needs to be taken

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Jayson Baker
to get this extra performance is minimal for a major backhaul. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Jerry Richardson
Baker Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link (2) Rocket5M @ $90/ea (2) RocketDish @ $145/ea $470 On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: I would agree. Except the 411ah is overkill in my testing

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
. Just seems wrong somehow. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link (2) Rocket5M @ $90/ea (2

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Scott Carullo
General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link I am really, really having a hard time getting my head around using $90 radios for must work links. Maybe I'm being obstinate, I don't know. Just seems wrong somehow. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Michael Baird
From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:57 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link I am really, really having a hard time getting my head around using $90 radios for must work links. Maybe I'm

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Jayson Baker
Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:57 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link I am really, really having a hard time getting

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread RickG
THANKS to EVERYONE for their input. I'll let you know what I decide. Another question: Normally I do my path analysis with Delorme but I'm not feeling that is good enough considering the cost of the project and some trees I see in the distance. Is anyone out there offering path analysis for a fair

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Brian Webster
$75 using 10 meter terrain data and 30 meter resolution tree clutter. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 www.wirelessmapping.com 607-643-4055 Voice 607-435-3988 Mobile 208-692-1898 Fax On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Brad Belton
: [WISPA] 20 mile link $75 using 10 meter terrain data and 30 meter resolution tree clutter. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 www.wirelessmapping.com 607-643-4055 Voice 607-435-3988 Mobile 208-692-1898 Fax On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, RickG rgunder

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread Robert West
, 2009 11:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link A relatively nifty new monitoring service out there also has a great path profile tool built-in. The person that is developing the product is a long time wireless operator, so he has a very good feel for what our industry

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-12-01 Thread rwf
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link A relatively nifty new monitoring service out there also has a great path profile tool built-in. The person

[WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-11-30 Thread RickG
Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose must work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions? -RickG WISPA

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-11-30 Thread Jayson Baker
Rocket 5M w/ Rocket Dish (or whatever it's called) On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:22 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose must work. I'm free to use

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-11-30 Thread 3-dB Networks
To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 20 mile link Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose must work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions? -RickG

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-11-30 Thread RickG
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 20 mile link Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is building a 100' tower just

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-11-30 Thread Josh Luthman
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 20 mile link Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose must work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions? -RickG

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-11-30 Thread Travis Johnson
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 20 mile link Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is building a 100

Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link

2009-11-30 Thread Travis Johnson
List Subject: [WISPA] 20 mile link Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose must work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions? -RickG