Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-05 Thread ccrum
: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:42:17 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless someone knows something I

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-04 Thread eje
: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I am curious about 900 noise. My 2.4 gear sees noise levels of about -98 to -102, but the XR9 setup I have with H120 sector see -80 to -85 or so. I am in a small town of 5000 and I am curious what might be generating such a high noise floor. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-04 Thread eje
, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-04 Thread RickG
Sep 2009 11:42:17 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless someone knows something I dont - which is always possible. On Wed

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-03 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE
Rick...what data rate(s) are you running on the CPE and AP? What speed is the cust supposed to get? I would use something like 6/9/12/18 data rates at both ends. The slower the data rate the more headroom you will have. Leon * RickG wrote, On 9/2/2009 8:44 PM: I've got two customers on a

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-03 Thread RickG
folks doing 900 preferred horizontal -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-03 Thread Mark McElvy
. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-03 Thread 3-dB Networks
. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-03 Thread Mike
: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-03 Thread Mike
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless someone knows something I dont - which is always possible. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, at least with the NorCal foliage we have here. tim

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Robert West
: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, at least with the NorCal foliage we have here. tim

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Josh Luthman
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread RickG
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol?  Vertical cuts

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Paul Rice
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread ralph
And the fact that most interference sources are vertical! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Rice Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Folks like

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Paul Rice
yep excellent point -- From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question And the fact that most interference sources are vertical

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread ralph
Oh- you must be using Ligowave (ducking) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:37 AM To: t...@telescience.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Why

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Harold Bledsoe
To: t...@telescience.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until I do what I'm not supposed to do. But, also as my luck runs

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Paul Rice
Hey Harold. Good to see you on this list. -- From: Harold Bledsoe hbled...@deliberant.net Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:09 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Well now that's not very nice

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Robert West
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Why horizontal polarity

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Robert West
] 900Mhz question Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread richard sterne
Of Paul Rice Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:37 AM To: t...@telescience.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until I do what

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread ralph
I figured I would wake you up lol -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 3:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Well now that's not very nice

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread RickG
rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Why horizontal

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread RickG
I've got two customers on a 900MHz AP RB-433/XR9 running Mikrotik 3.10, with a 13db v-pol omni. Customer 1 has RB-411/XR9 running Mikrotik 3.10, with a 18db grid. 1 mile of solid trees. Signal is -85. Noise floor = -102. Customer 2 has RB-411/XR9 running Mikrotik 3.10 with a 15db yagi. 1/4 mile

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread RickG
of failure lessons are learned. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread RickG
Rice Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Paul Rice
, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread RickG
is the wavelength (length of a single cycle). -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-02 Thread Paul Rice
heh, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-09-01 Thread Tim Edwards
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have a 2.5

[WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
We've been using the Trango 900Mhz gear and are familiar with canopy and it's abilities. How does a Mikrotik with something like a XR9 compare in terms of penetration and throughput when paired with a Ubiquity CPE? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-08-31 Thread Robert West
- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz question We've been using the Trango 900Mhz gear and are familiar with canopy

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-08-31 Thread Josh Luthman
, if any. Haven't tried it before but we'll see. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz question We've been

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

2009-08-31 Thread Robert West
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Good luck and may the force be with you! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth