Re: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700
Open access never will come close to replacing, a carrier's ability to share the spectrum with their own gear or own their spectrum. I don't want to support anything that gives a fake sense of security for competition. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Michael Erskine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700 Sorry, lost my thought. First Verison was told to sell the retailer DSL at a resonable cost. Then they kissed up to the FCC and suddenly they were selling wholesale DSL to the retailers at $23.50 while they were advertising the retailer's customers $14.95. Sweet deal for Vz. Then we got the bill... Yeah, if you signed the contract, you know about that bill. It was retroactive. Gee, you don't have xxx customers? Well, you signed for that many. Guess we have to charge you *rectroactively* for the xxx customers you do have. Yeah, I told the boss the day he signed that contract, This is a fish hook. Eat this and they will kill you. He got a bill from Verizon for $45,000.00 because he did not whole sale enough customers at $9.00 per month more than the ONLY OTHER PLAYER IN HIS MARKET... Verizon. Did we complain? Yeah, we did. We took it to the top in Verizon. We were told, Even the FCC can't do anything about it. Verizon was right. They bought the FCC and nobody complained. Fancy that. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/857 - Release Date: 6/20/2007 2:18 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700
Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein, a Democrat, said he supports the idea of imposing an open-access condition on companies bidding to acquire part of the spectrum. http://www.reuters.com/article/governmentFilingsNews/idUSN2018478420070620 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700
Supporting open-access and the ability to do something about it, are two different things coming out of the mouth of an FCC Commissioner. Both Cmr's Adelstein and Copps provided all kinds of support for open competition and a level playing field for wholesale line-sharing, where are we now? You still have a Republican FCC and with the Presidential election just around the corner, it's politics galore so get used to it during the next 16 months. Are you really ready for the Politics of it all? Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700 Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein, a Democrat, said he supports the idea of imposing an open-access condition on companies bidding to acquire part of the spectrum. http://www.reuters.com/article/governmentFilingsNews/idUSN2018478420070620 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700
Ok, The whole idea is a bone tossed to the small fry. If you are going to make it ISM, make it ISM. Otherwise, please don't pee on me and tell me it is raining. That just upsets me. Lets review the Verizon deal of the past three years. First they were required to let the small fry purchase DSL circuits at whole sale costs. Then they were allowed to decide what whole sale meant. Mike Hammett wrote: I heard it straight from his mouth. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700 Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein, a Democrat, said he supports the idea of imposing an open-access condition on companies bidding to acquire part of the spectrum. http://www.reuters.com/article/governmentFilingsNews/idUSN2018478420070620 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700
Sorry, lost my thought. First Verison was told to sell the retailer DSL at a resonable cost. Then they kissed up to the FCC and suddenly they were selling wholesale DSL to the retailers at $23.50 while they were advertising the retailer's customers $14.95. Sweet deal for Vz. Then we got the bill... Yeah, if you signed the contract, you know about that bill. It was retroactive. Gee, you don't have xxx customers? Well, you signed for that many. Guess we have to charge you *rectroactively* for the xxx customers you do have. Yeah, I told the boss the day he signed that contract, This is a fish hook. Eat this and they will kill you. He got a bill from Verizon for $45,000.00 because he did not whole sale enough customers at $9.00 per month more than the ONLY OTHER PLAYER IN HIS MARKET... Verizon. Did we complain? Yeah, we did. We took it to the top in Verizon. We were told, Even the FCC can't do anything about it. Verizon was right. They bought the FCC and nobody complained. Fancy that. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700
The truth of the matter is pretty easy to cipher looking at the past with anyone being able to resale DSL..etc, but now the Telco's are not having to allow DSL to be resold over their lines. Things change, politicians change, policy changes - - nothing is forever! This shared wireless access/ network made available to be resold crap has to be put off till we see what happens with the spectrum yet to be auctioned. If the RBOCs fall in here and buy up/run the price out of range for the local WISPs that will put a whole new spin on everything. The rest of my comments are with held at this point in time on the grounds I may incriminate myself! Mac *-Original Message- *From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On *Behalf Of Michael Erskine *Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:01 PM *To: WISPA General List *Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adelstein backs Open Access 700 * *Sorry, lost my thought. * *First Verison was told to sell the retailer DSL at a resonable cost. * *Then they kissed up to the FCC and suddenly they were selling *wholesale DSL to the retailers at $23.50 while they were advertising *the retailer's customers $14.95. Sweet deal for Vz. * *Then we got the bill... Yeah, if you signed the contract, you know *about that bill. It was retroactive. Gee, you don't have xxx *customers? Well, you signed for that many. Guess we have to charge you **rectroactively* for the xxx customers you do have. Yeah, I told the *boss the day he signed that contract, This is a fish hook. Eat this *and they will kill you. * *He got a bill from Verizon for $45,000.00 because he did not whole *sale enough customers at $9.00 per month more than the ONLY OTHER *PLAYER IN HIS MARKET... Verizon. * *Did we complain? Yeah, we did. We took it to the top in Verizon. We *were told, Even the FCC can't do anything about it. * *Verizon was right. * * *They bought the FCC and nobody complained. * *Fancy that. *-- *WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org * *Subscribe/Unsubscribe: *http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless * *Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
