Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'dliketoknowwhatyouthink.

2009-02-23 Thread eje
Yeah. LTE have potential to kill the WISP market in metro areas and in long 
term even in rural when they get around to deploy there. But looks like first 
serious LTE deployments might not happen until 2013 or so and my guess maybe by 
16 or 17 we might see as narrow spread as we currently see on 3G availability 
today so basically only metro areas with at least a few hundred thousand of 
populations. Smaller areas might by then finally gotten 3G speeds. 

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com

Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:53:28 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd
liketoknowwhatyouthink.


Okey ... 2nd time around ...  Guys you gotta keep up with technology...

Lte: Long Term Evolution, currently the technology of choice of cell
carriers for 4G, 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd
liketoknowwhatyouthink.

OK, what's LTE?
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com
To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like
toknowwhatyouthink.


 It's a fair question and it bugs me too. Fact is, I was a more than a 
 bit blind and thought I was more objective than I really was. Also, 
 since then the economy and other conditions has conspired to kick e in

 the teeth a bit. I still believe it is great technology for nomadic 
 and perhaps mobile, but it is damned near impossible to fight the LTE 
 interests AND the current economy that is so weak no big guys are 
 spending big CAPEX, giving LTE all the time it needs to catch 
 technically (and it already dominates politically). That has me moving

 back to where I began -- wireless broadband is primarily a fixed 
 business, with some added nomadicity in some cases. For that, d is the

 better standard, at least with my current hindsight.


 Patrick Leary
 Aperto Networks
 813.426.4230 mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net
 Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:33 AM
 To: jefftho...@fastmail.fm; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to 
 knowwhatyouthink.

 Patrick, can you clarify the e vs. d for me.  The reason I ask is that

 I saw you do the Alvarion webinar and claimed that e was the only way 
 to go.  Now that you are with Aperto, d is the only way to go.

 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jeff Booher jefftho...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:
 Marlon,

 What are you talking about? Our product is very reliable, and we have

 many very happy customers ( including some very large ones such as 
 towerstream )

 -

 Jeff


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:00 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know

 whatyouthink.

 I have heard NOTHING good about their product's reliability.  I have 
 one consulting customer that's still using them, his failure rates 
 are
 shocking.

 I'd have dumped them years ago.

 Unless this changes I'd stay far far away from Aperto.  (I've been to

 the Ca. offices and like the people that run the show, but that 
 doesn't help my customers at all.)

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:29 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know 
 what

 youthink.


 We're looking to deploy 3.65GHz this year in a couple of different 
 locations because of interference issues.  So far they have the most

 compelling price point.  I'd like to know how well it works in the 
 field.  All opinions appreciated.  Hit me off list if you want to.\

 Thanks,

 Pat


 
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Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz?I'dliketoknowwhatyouthink.

2009-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
a.. Peak download rates of 326.4 Mbit/s for 4x4 antennas, 172.8 Mbit/s for 
2x2 antennas for every 20 MHz of spectrum. [2]
a.. Peak upload rates of 86.4 Mbit/s for every 20 MHz of spectrum.[2]

Anyone happen to know how wide the average cell phone band is?

I'm thinking that this will be better for us than for them.

BTW, did anyone else notice the 5 gig monthly limit in the fine print at the 
bottom of the last Sprint ad?
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: e...@wisp-router.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 
3.65GHz?I'dliketoknowwhatyouthink.


 Yeah. LTE have potential to kill the WISP market in metro areas and in 
 long term even in rural when they get around to deploy there. But looks 
 like first serious LTE deployments might not happen until 2013 or so and 
 my guess maybe by 16 or 17 we might see as narrow spread as we currently 
 see on 3G availability today so basically only metro areas with at least a 
 few hundred thousand of populations. Smaller areas might by then finally 
 gotten 3G speeds.

 /Eje
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com

 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:53:28
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd
 liketoknowwhatyouthink.


 Okey ... 2nd time around ...  Guys you gotta keep up with technology...

 Lte: Long Term Evolution, currently the technology of choice of cell
 carriers for 4G,

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution


 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:27 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd
 liketoknowwhatyouthink.

 OK, what's LTE?
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com
 To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List
 wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like
 toknowwhatyouthink.


 It's a fair question and it bugs me too. Fact is, I was a more than a
 bit blind and thought I was more objective than I really was. Also,
 since then the economy and other conditions has conspired to kick e in

 the teeth a bit. I still believe it is great technology for nomadic
 and perhaps mobile, but it is damned near impossible to fight the LTE
 interests AND the current economy that is so weak no big guys are
 spending big CAPEX, giving LTE all the time it needs to catch
 technically (and it already dominates politically). That has me moving

 back to where I began -- wireless broadband is primarily a fixed
 business, with some added nomadicity in some cases. For that, d is the

 better standard, at least with my current hindsight.


 Patrick Leary
 Aperto Networks
 813.426.4230 mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net
 Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:33 AM
 To: jefftho...@fastmail.fm; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to
 knowwhatyouthink.

 Patrick, can you clarify the e vs. d for me.  The reason I ask is that

 I saw you do the Alvarion webinar and claimed that e was the only way
 to go.  Now that you are with Aperto, d is the only way to go.

 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jeff Booher jefftho...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:
 Marlon,

 What are you talking about? Our product is very reliable, and we have

 many very happy customers ( including some very large ones such as
 towerstream )

 -

 Jeff


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:00 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know

 whatyouthink.

 I have heard NOTHING good about their product's reliability.  I have
 one consulting customer that's still using them, his failure rates
 are
 shocking.

 I'd have dumped them years ago.

 Unless this changes I'd stay far far away from Aperto.  (I've been to

 the Ca. offices and like the people that run the show, but that
 doesn't help my customers at all.)

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:29 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know
 what

 youthink.


 We're looking to deploy 3.65GHz this year in a couple of different
 locations because of interference issues.  So far they have the most

 compelling price point.  I'd like to know how well it works

Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'dliketoknowwhatyouthink.

2009-02-23 Thread Scottie Arnett
Long Term Engineering?

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Eric Albert eric.alb...@alvarion.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:48:11 -0800

LTE = Late to Evolve.

Eric Albert
|
Application Engineer
Alvarion Inc.
|


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd
liketoknowwhatyouthink.

OK, what's LTE?
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com
To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like 
toknowwhatyouthink.


 It's a fair question and it bugs me too. Fact is, I was a more than a
 bit blind and thought I was more objective than I really was. Also,
 since then the economy and other conditions has conspired to kick e in
 the teeth a bit. I still believe it is great technology for nomadic
and
 perhaps mobile, but it is damned near impossible to fight the LTE
 interests AND the current economy that is so weak no big guys are
 spending big CAPEX, giving LTE all the time it needs to catch
 technically (and it already dominates politically). That has me moving
 back to where I began -- wireless broadband is primarily a fixed
 business, with some added nomadicity in some cases. For that, d is the
 better standard, at least with my current hindsight.


 Patrick Leary
 Aperto Networks
 813.426.4230 mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net
 Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:33 AM
 To: jefftho...@fastmail.fm; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to
 knowwhatyouthink.

 Patrick, can you clarify the e vs. d for me.  The reason I ask is that
I
 saw you do the Alvarion webinar and claimed that e was the only way to
 go.  Now that you are with Aperto, d is the only way to go.

 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jeff Booher jefftho...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:
 Marlon,

 What are you talking about? Our product is very reliable, and we have
 many very happy customers ( including some very large ones such as
 towerstream )

 -

 Jeff


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:00 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know
 whatyouthink.

 I have heard NOTHING good about their product's reliability.  I have
 one consulting customer that's still using them, his failure rates
are
 shocking.

 I'd have dumped them years ago.

 Unless this changes I'd stay far far away from Aperto.  (I've been to
 the Ca. offices and like the people that run the show, but that
 doesn't help my customers at all.)

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:29 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know
what

 youthink.


 We're looking to deploy 3.65GHz this year in a couple of different
 locations because of interference issues.  So far they have the most
 compelling price point.  I'd like to know how well it works in the
 field.  All opinions appreciated.  Hit me off list if you want to.\

 Thanks,

 Pat



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