Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Hmmm, I'll have to go check that out.

One more big drive failure or fire around here and everyone is gonna want 
the service.


laters,
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- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?


We have a few customers we do backups for as well. We moved away from 
Handy Backup and use  believe it or not Winzip ! - Has more 
features and customization for the remote backup process I find.


JohnnyO

- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?



We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.

We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people could 
totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they backup 
to our servers!


Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
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1999!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?


All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for 
several

years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few
individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software and it 
has

been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not one
moment's trouble in years.

Mac






-Original Message-
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Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

I've been looking at an open source application called backuppc and
considering offering remote backup service to some customers.  I
appreciate the wisdom and experience of the group here.   Any
suggestions on how best to offer this service?  Any software
suggestions for this?  I would like to have the backup on my servers.
any turn-key solution suggestions?

Thank you kindly,
Marshall
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-21 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
Marlon,  have a link for it?

On 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.

 We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people could
 totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they backup to
 our servers!

 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999!
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



 - Original Message -
 From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:19 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?


  All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for
  several
  years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few
  individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software and it has
  been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not one
  moment's trouble in years.
 
  Mac
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
  Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:30 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?
 
  I've been looking at an open source application called backuppc and
  considering offering remote backup service to some customers.  I
  appreciate the wisdom and experience of the group here.   Any
  suggestions on how best to offer this service?  Any software
  suggestions for this?  I would like to have the backup on my servers.
  any turn-key solution suggestions?
 
  Thank you kindly,
  Marshall
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

www.handybackup.com

I run it on my own system.  It's nice stuff.  They are actually owned by one 
of the really big outfits.  Novastore or whatever it was that someone else 
mentioned.


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- Original Message - 
From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?



Marlon,  have a link for it?

On 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.

We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people could
totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they backup 
to

our servers!

Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 
1999!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message -
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?


 All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for
 several
 years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few
 individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software and it 
 has

 been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not one
 moment's trouble in years.

 Mac





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On

 Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

 I've been looking at an open source application called backuppc and
 considering offering remote backup service to some customers.  I
 appreciate the wisdom and experience of the group here.   Any
 suggestions on how best to offer this service?  Any software
 suggestions for this?  I would like to have the backup on my servers.
 any turn-key solution suggestions?

 Thank you kindly,
 Marshall
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-21 Thread Frank Muto

We use Handy Back Up as well and have been very pleased with it. Actually as 
someone else said they now use WinZip over HBU,
we use both depending on the job at hand. The sync feature on HBU works great for linking files from desktop to laptop or 
mirroring external storage drives. http://www.handybackup.net/


Another backup program we use is NTI's Shadow for real time or scheduled backups. I like the real time backup when working 
with regular daily files, which are saved to external storage drives each time the file changes. We also use NTI's Backup Now 
and Drive Backup. http://www.ntius.com




Frank Muto
FSM Marketing Group, Inc
www.secureemailplus.com




- Original Message - 
From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Marlon,  have a link for it?

On 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.

We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people could
totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they backup to
our servers!

Marlon



- Original Message -
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for
 several
 years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few
 individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software and it has
 been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not one
 moment's trouble in years.

 Mac




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RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-21 Thread Mac Dearman
I think the real question I would ask - - going over a wireless link is:

WHERE THE HECK IS THE SECURITY? 

I mean you are going to back up someone's books with no (encryption) (like
blowfish) security? I am not talking WEP either! What about restoring the
client's data? Is that something that that will take intervention on your
part? How about the client's ability to access his backups 24/7 in case of
emergency reinstall?

Mac

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Frank Muto
 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:58 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?
 
 We use Handy Back Up as well and have been very pleased with it.
 Actually as someone else said they now use WinZip over HBU,
 we use both depending on the job at hand. The sync feature on HBU works
 great for linking files from desktop to laptop or
 mirroring external storage drives. http://www.handybackup.net/
 
 Another backup program we use is NTI's Shadow for real time or
 scheduled backups. I like the real time backup when working
 with regular daily files, which are saved to external storage drives
 each time the file changes. We also use NTI's Backup Now
 and Drive Backup. http://www.ntius.com
 
 
 
 Frank Muto
 FSM Marketing Group, Inc
 www.secureemailplus.com
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Marlon,  have a link for it?
 
  On 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.
 
  We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people
 could
  totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they
 backup to
  our servers!
 
  Marlon
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups
 for
   several
   years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a
 few
   individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software
 and it has
   been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used.
 Not one
   moment's trouble in years.
  
   Mac
 
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RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-21 Thread Jeff Broadwick
If they need high security, set them up with a router capable of AES or
3DES.

Jeff
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:24 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

I think the real question I would ask - - going over a wireless link is:

WHERE THE HECK IS THE SECURITY? 

I mean you are going to back up someone's books with no (encryption) (like
blowfish) security? I am not talking WEP either! What about restoring the
client's data? Is that something that that will take intervention on your
part? How about the client's ability to access his backups 24/7 in case of
emergency reinstall?

Mac

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of Frank Muto
 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:58 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?
 
 We use Handy Back Up as well and have been very pleased with it.
 Actually as someone else said they now use WinZip over HBU, we use 
 both depending on the job at hand. The sync feature on HBU works great 
 for linking files from desktop to laptop or mirroring external storage 
 drives. http://www.handybackup.net/
 
 Another backup program we use is NTI's Shadow for real time or 
 scheduled backups. I like the real time backup when working with 
 regular daily files, which are saved to external storage drives each 
 time the file changes. We also use NTI's Backup Now and Drive Backup. 
 http://www.ntius.com
 
 
 
 Frank Muto
 FSM Marketing Group, Inc
 www.secureemailplus.com
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Marlon,  have a link for it?
 
  On 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.
 
  We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people
 could
  totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they
 backup to
  our servers!
 
  Marlon
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups
 for
   several
   years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a
 few
   individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software
 and it has
   been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used.
 Not one
   moment's trouble in years.
  
   Mac
 
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-21 Thread Ryan Langseth
I think Mac means more on the storage side.  RBS sends encrypted  
files to the remote server.  the type where if the key is lost, so  
are your files.  And the files are worthless without the key.  It is  
fine and dandy to have an encrypted network, but if the remote backup  
server has unencrypted files you are in trouble (If I wanted to steal  
data I would go for the central server rather than the single  
connection, bigger payday).  Depending on something like simple zip  
file passwords is laughable at best; maybe it has better encryption  
than that, I don't know.


That being said, except for our issues with scheduling in RBS,  it  
has been very good.



On Sep 21, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:

If they need high security, set them up with a router capable of  
AES or

3DES.

Jeff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:24 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

I think the real question I would ask - - going over a wireless  
link is:


WHERE THE HECK IS THE SECURITY?

I mean you are going to back up someone's books with no  
(encryption) (like
blowfish) security? I am not talking WEP either! What about  
restoring the
client's data? Is that something that that will take intervention  
on your
part? How about the client's ability to access his backups 24/7 in  
case of

emergency reinstall?

Mac


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Frank Muto
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

We use Handy Back Up as well and have been very pleased with it.
Actually as someone else said they now use WinZip over HBU, we use
both depending on the job at hand. The sync feature on HBU works  
great
for linking files from desktop to laptop or mirroring external  
storage

drives. http://www.handybackup.net/

Another backup program we use is NTI's Shadow for real time or
scheduled backups. I like the real time backup when working with
regular daily files, which are saved to external storage drives each
time the file changes. We also use NTI's Backup Now and Drive Backup.
http://www.ntius.com



Frank Muto
FSM Marketing Group, Inc
www.secureemailplus.com




- Original Message -
From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Marlon,  have a link for it?

On 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:

We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.

We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people

could

totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they

backup to

our servers!

Marlon



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From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups

for

several
years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a

few

individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software

and it has

been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used.

Not one

moment's trouble in years.

Mac


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RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-21 Thread Brad Belton
Exactly...we're setting up a 1.25Gbps link for a client with line speed
AES256 encryption.  I believe the link meets and will be FIPS 140-2
compliant as well.  However, even with this level of security on the link
hardware it is always best to encrypt BEFORE the data leaves your network.

Best,


Brad



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:12 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

If they need high security, set them up with a router capable of AES or
3DES.

Jeff
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:24 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

I think the real question I would ask - - going over a wireless link is:

WHERE THE HECK IS THE SECURITY? 

I mean you are going to back up someone's books with no (encryption) (like
blowfish) security? I am not talking WEP either! What about restoring the
client's data? Is that something that that will take intervention on your
part? How about the client's ability to access his backups 24/7 in case of
emergency reinstall?

Mac

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of Frank Muto
 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:58 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?
 
 We use Handy Back Up as well and have been very pleased with it.
 Actually as someone else said they now use WinZip over HBU, we use 
 both depending on the job at hand. The sync feature on HBU works great 
 for linking files from desktop to laptop or mirroring external storage 
 drives. http://www.handybackup.net/
 
 Another backup program we use is NTI's Shadow for real time or 
 scheduled backups. I like the real time backup when working with 
 regular daily files, which are saved to external storage drives each 
 time the file changes. We also use NTI's Backup Now and Drive Backup. 
 http://www.ntius.com
 
 
 
 Frank Muto
 FSM Marketing Group, Inc
 www.secureemailplus.com
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Marlon,  have a link for it?
 
  On 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.
 
  We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people
 could
  totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they
 backup to
  our servers!
 
  Marlon
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups
 for
   several
   years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a
 few
   individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software
 and it has
   been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used.
 Not one
   moment's trouble in years.
  
   Mac
 
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-21 Thread Frank Muto
HBU uses Blowfish, Cobian 8 has RSA-Rijndael or Blowfish or even WinZIP AES to encrypt on their side and keep it stored 
encrypted on our remote server. If it's stored unencrypted on our server, that's their problem since all we are doing is 
holding it for them. If they want a redundant copy of their data stored, we can do that too.



Frank










- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?



I think the real question I would ask - - going over a wireless link is:

WHERE THE HECK IS THE SECURITY?

I mean you are going to back up someone's books with no (encryption) (like
blowfish) security? I am not talking WEP either! What about restoring the
client's data? Is that something that that will take intervention on your
part? How about the client's ability to access his backups 24/7 in case of
emergency reinstall?

Mac


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Frank Muto
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

We use Handy Back Up as well and have been very pleased with it.
Actually as someone else said they now use WinZip over HBU,
we use both depending on the job at hand. The sync feature on HBU works
great for linking files from desktop to laptop or
mirroring external storage drives. http://www.handybackup.net/

Another backup program we use is NTI's Shadow for real time or
scheduled backups. I like the real time backup when working
with regular daily files, which are saved to external storage drives
each time the file changes. We also use NTI's Backup Now
and Drive Backup. http://www.ntius.com



Frank Muto
FSM Marketing Group, Inc
www.secureemailplus.com




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From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Marlon,  have a link for it?

 On 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.

 We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people
could
 totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they
backup to
 our servers!

 Marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups
for
  several
  years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a
few
  individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software
and it has
  been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used.
Not one
  moment's trouble in years.
 
  Mac

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[WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-20 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
I've been looking at an open source application called backuppc and
considering offering remote backup service to some customers.  I
appreciate the wisdom and experience of the group here.   Any
suggestions on how best to offer this service?  Any software
suggestions for this?  I would like to have the backup on my servers.
any turn-key solution suggestions?

Thank you kindly,
Marshall


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Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-20 Thread Zack Kneisley
Not Open-source, but we are currently using Nova-Web (www.novastor.com).

I'ts not cheap, but it does provide everything you could want including open
file and MSSQL backup without having to shut down your databases.

Zack

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 I've been looking at an open source application called backuppc and
 considering offering remote backup service to some customers.  I
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 suggestions for this?  I would like to have the backup on my servers.
 any turn-key solution suggestions?

 Thank you kindly,
 Marshall

 

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RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-20 Thread Mac Dearman
All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for several
years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few
individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software and it has
been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not one
moment's trouble in years.

Mac





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 Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:30 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?
 
 I've been looking at an open source application called backuppc and
 considering offering remote backup service to some customers.  I
 appreciate the wisdom and experience of the group here.   Any
 suggestions on how best to offer this service?  Any software
 suggestions for this?  I would like to have the backup on my servers.
 any turn-key solution suggestions?
 
 Thank you kindly,
 Marshall
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RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-20 Thread Ryan Langseth
Mac:
I wonder what we are doing wrong then, we have been using RBS for 3
years, and it has been a pita.  The scheduling problems have been the
major problem (its scheduler is crap for us). Are you using the RBS
native task scheduler, or running via Windows's task scheduler?

That is the major gripe about it though, other than that it has been
good.

Thanks,
Ryan

On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 14:19 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote:
 All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for several
 years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few
 individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software and it has
 been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not one
 moment's trouble in years.
 
 Mac
 
 
 
 
 
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  Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
  Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:30 PM
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  Subject: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?
  
  I've been looking at an open source application called backuppc and
  considering offering remote backup service to some customers.  I
  appreciate the wisdom and experience of the group here.   Any
  suggestions on how best to offer this service?  Any software
  suggestions for this?  I would like to have the backup on my servers.
  any turn-key solution suggestions?
  
  Thank you kindly,
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RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-20 Thread Mac Dearman
I have only used the native scheduler that comes with the software. The
scheduler could be improved - - like having a password on it to prevent
changes without authorization.

That is the only time we have had any sort of problem - -was when someone
(no one ever knows who) changes the files that we had backing up. I consider
that OE (operator error) problems because we can point to the right files,
hit run now and it goes back to doing what it was supposed to do. I also
warn the agencies to periodically check to make sure that it is backing uop
the correct files. I always name the profile choose this one :-) with
their only other choice as default.

Mac



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 Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:35 PM
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 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?
 
 Mac:
 I wonder what we are doing wrong then, we have been using RBS for 3
 years, and it has been a pita.  The scheduling problems have been the
 major problem (its scheduler is crap for us). Are you using the RBS
 native task scheduler, or running via Windows's task scheduler?
 
 That is the major gripe about it though, other than that it has been
 good.
 
 Thanks,
 Ryan
 
 On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 14:19 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote:
  All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for
 several
  years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few
  individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software and
 it has
  been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not
 one
  moment's trouble in years.
 
  Mac
 
 
 
 
 
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   I've been looking at an open source application called backuppc and
   considering offering remote backup service to some customers.  I
   appreciate the wisdom and experience of the group here.   Any
   suggestions on how best to offer this service?  Any software
   suggestions for this?  I would like to have the backup on my
 servers.
   any turn-key solution suggestions?
  
   Thank you kindly,
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.

We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people could 
totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they backup to 
our servers!


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From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?


All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for 
several

years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few
individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software and it has
been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not one
moment's trouble in years.

Mac






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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:30 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

I've been looking at an open source application called backuppc and
considering offering remote backup service to some customers.  I
appreciate the wisdom and experience of the group here.   Any
suggestions on how best to offer this service?  Any software
suggestions for this?  I would like to have the backup on my servers.
any turn-key solution suggestions?

Thank you kindly,
Marshall
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

2007-09-20 Thread JohnnyO
We have a few customers we do backups for as well. We moved away from Handy 
Backup and use  believe it or not Winzip ! - Has more features and 
customization for the remote backup process I find.


JohnnyO

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From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?



We use handy backup.  It's not really popular yet.

We may be over charging for space.  The bitch of it is that people could 
totally screw our network up with all of the backups, even if they backup 
to our servers!


Marlon
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All I can say is that we have been doing off site remote backups for 
several

years - for many Gov't facilities, personal business and even a few
individuals. We chose this: http://remote-backup.com/  software and it 
has

been the greatest, most trouble free software I have ever used. Not one
moment's trouble in years.

Mac






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Subject: [WISPA] Anyone doing remote backup for customers?

I've been looking at an open source application called backuppc and
considering offering remote backup service to some customers.  I
appreciate the wisdom and experience of the group here.   Any
suggestions on how best to offer this service?  Any software
suggestions for this?  I would like to have the backup on my servers.
any turn-key solution suggestions?

Thank you kindly,
Marshall
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