Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-05 Thread LTI - Dennis Burgess
We returned all of our and have never bought more again.. :(  I think they
changed suppliers now, but still.

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.com wrote:

 yeah, 3 months ago, this definitely shouldn't exist.  Can you send me
 pics?  ben.mo...@ubnt.com  Where was this purchased?

 Thanks,
 Ben


 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 3 months ago Level 1 shouldn't exist.  The retailer probably has it
 labeled incorrectly.  Level 1 and 2 essentially became Pro and Carrier.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.comwrote:

  It's Toughcable Pro Level 1 We bought the roll maybe 3 months ago.

 Thanks,

 Tom S.



 On 11/3/2012 7:31 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Hi Tom,

 Is this the TC-L1/L2 or the Carrier/Pro?

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.comwrote:

  Ben can you provide a list of batch-codes that are known bad, or at
 least verify if one we have in stock is known bad? I'm looking at a roll
 here with these codes on the wrapper: NI HK 102354 11206 1250 Is that bad
 or good?

 Thanks,

 Tom S.



 On 11/3/2012 9:47 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Hi Rick,

  I will add a little more to this...The cable itself was tested
 thoroughly prior to release (UV, outdoor rating, etc...).  The cable passed
 all testing.  Unfortunately, some of the cable did not have the same
 quality as the cable that was tested/passed testing.  We have corrected
 this and moved away from the vendor that caused these issues.  The new
 cable has not had any issues.

  As stated, we will work any customer that has experienced problems
 with the cable.  Please contact us directly.

  Thanks,
 Ben

 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.orgwrote:

  I just heard about these problems last week at WISPAPALOOZA from
 Matt Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious issue and one that should be
 addressed by the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a great partner for 
 WISPA
 and the industry, they do need to take responsibility for products
 developed and pushed to market without proper testing.  I am BCC copying
 Ben Moore to see what they intend to do about this problem.  It will be
 interesting to know how many reels of this defective cable were sold,
 whether the defective coating has been corrected and whether replacement
 cable will be shipped.



 It would be the best interest of everyone if class action can be
 avoided.  Let’s come to the table and come to a satisfactory conclusion 
 for
 all.  I will await Ben and Ubiquiti’s response before taking any further
 steps.



 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *



 Respectfully,

 * *

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

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  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On

  Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco

  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM

  To: WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 

  Hi all

 

  any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable
 CARRIER

  ?

 

  Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

 

  It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's
 also the service

  interruption

 

  Thank you

 

   I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent

   with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket

   has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and

   hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable.
 Almost

   like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this
 failure,

   the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new

   install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

  

   On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
 

  wrote:

   Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes
 just

   appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried

   because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our

   customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK.

  

   Tom S.

  

   - Original Message -

   From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com

   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

  

   I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and
 POE's.

   I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't
 want

   any new cable that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have

   them replace the radios and go one with Life.  Not sure how I
 would

   ever get rid of 10

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi all

any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable CARRIER ?

Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's also 
the service interruption

Thank you

 I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent
 with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket
 has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and
 hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost
 like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,
 the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new
 install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:
 Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just appear
 in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried because we've been
 recommending this shielded cable to all our customers esp. in lighting-prone
 areas like OK.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???


 I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.  I know
 that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new cable
 that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have them replace the radios
 and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes of new
 UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM
 To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with dead
 ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the
 cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it was
 used as those sites fail.

 On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you

 --


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 Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

 C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
 Fax : +39-091-8772072
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[WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Rick Harnish
I just heard about these problems last week at WISPAPALOOZA from Matt
Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious issue and one that should be addressed
by the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a great partner for WISPA and the
industry, they do need to take responsibility for products developed and
pushed to market without proper testing.  I am BCC copying Ben Moore to see
what they intend to do about this problem.  It will be interesting to know
how many reels of this defective cable were sold, whether the defective
coating has been corrected and whether replacement cable will be shipped.  

 

It would be the best interest of everyone if class action can be avoided.
Let's come to the table and come to a satisfactory conclusion for all.  I
will await Ben and Ubiquiti's response before taking any further steps.

 

 http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way Where there is
a Wisp, there is a way!

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

rharn...@wispa.org

adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

 

 

 

 

 -Original Message-

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

 Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco

 Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM

 To: WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 

 Hi all

 

 any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable CARRIER

 ?

 

 Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

 

 It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's also
the service

 interruption

 

 Thank you

 

  I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent

  with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket

  has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and

  hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost

  like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,

  the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new

  install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

 

  On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples 
mailto:tsharp...@qorvus.com tsharp...@qorvus.com

 wrote:

  Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just

  appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried

  because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our

  customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK.

 

  Tom S.

 

  - Original Message -

  From: Steve Barnes  mailto:st...@pcswin.com st...@pcswin.com

  To: WISPA General List  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
wireless@wispa.org

  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 

 

  I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.

  I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want

  any new cable that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have

  them replace the radios and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would

  ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

 

  Steve Barnes

  General Manager

  PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

 

 

  -Original Message-

  From:  mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

  On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves

  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM

  To:  mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it paolo.difrance...@level7.it;
WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 

  Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with

  dead ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We

  used the cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more

  places it was used as those sites fail.

 

  On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco

   mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it paolo.difrance...@level7.it
wrote:

  Hi All,

 

  it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some

  time ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 

  It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the

  same site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 

  Any comment?

 

  Thank you

 

  --

 

 

  Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

 

  Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 

  Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

 

  C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825

  Fax : +39-091-8772072

  assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432

  web:  http://www.level7.it http://www.level7.it

 

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Why would you want to hurt both the consumer and Ubiquiti while feeding the
lawyers?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 3, 2012 8:03 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it
wrote:

 Hi all

 any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable CARRIER
 ?

 Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

 It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's also
 the service interruption

 Thank you

  I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent
  with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket
  has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and
  hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost
  like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,
  the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new
  install for the customer, except the roof tripod.
 
  On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
 wrote:
  Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just
 appear
  in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried because we've
 been
  recommending this shielded cable to all our customers esp. in
 lighting-prone
  areas like OK.
 
  Tom S.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???
 
 
  I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.  I
 know
  that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new
 cable
  that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have them replace the
 radios
  and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes
 of new
  UBNT cable.  I would put it out.
 
  Steve Barnes
  General Manager
  PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM
  To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???
 
  Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with
 dead
  ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the
  cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it was
  used as those sites fail.
 
  On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco
  paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time
  ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.
 
  It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same
  site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...
 
  Any comment?
 
  Thank you
 
  --
 
 
  Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
 
  Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
 
  Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
 
  C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
  Fax : +39-091-8772072
  assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
  web: http://www.level7.it
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Mike Hammett
If you have 10 boxes of the new cable that you don't want, you can send them up 
here. ;-)



-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 11:58:26 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.  I know that 
I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new cable that will 
fail in a year.  I think I will just have them replace the radios and go one 
with Life.  Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I 
would put it out.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM
To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with dead 
ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the cable in 
short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it was used as those 
sites fail.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco 
paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time 
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same 
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you

 --


 Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

 Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

 C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
 Fax : +39-091-8772072
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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Darin Steffl
They have been replacing the cable for months and month. I'm really
surprised you haven't heard of the problem yet as it is all over the
Ubiquiti forums and in the ubiquiti mailing list here and they have been
replacing them as long as you show receipts for purchase of the old cable.
They are handling it fine and replacing cable at no cost and you don't have
to send it back. This email would make more sense if it was sent 5-6 months
ago but it is old news now.


On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 I just heard about these problems last week at WISPAPALOOZA from Matt
 Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious issue and one that should be
 addressed by the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a great partner for WISPA
 and the industry, they do need to take responsibility for products
 developed and pushed to market without proper testing.  I am BCC copying
 Ben Moore to see what they intend to do about this problem.  It will be
 interesting to know how many reels of this defective cable were sold,
 whether the defective coating has been corrected and whether replacement
 cable will be shipped.  

 ** **

 It would be the best interest of everyone if class action can be avoided.
 Let’s come to the table and come to a satisfactory conclusion for all.  I
 will await Ben and Ubiquiti’s response before taking any further steps.***
 *

 ** **

 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *

 ** **

 Respectfully,**

 * *

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

 adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

  Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco

  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM

  To: WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 

  Hi all

 

  any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable
 CARRIER

  ?

 

  Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

 

  It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's also
 the service

  interruption

 

  Thank you

 

   I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent

   with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket

   has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and

   hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost

   like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,

   the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new

   install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

  

   On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com

  wrote:

   Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just

   appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried

   because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our

   customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK.

  

   Tom S.

  

   - Original Message -

   From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com

   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

  

   I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.

   I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want

   any new cable that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have

   them replace the radios and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would

   ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

  

   Steve Barnes

   General Manager

   PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

  

  

   -Original Message-

   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
   [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org
 ]

   On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM

   To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

   Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with

   dead ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We

   used the cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more

   places it was used as those sites fail.

  

   On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco

   paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

   Hi All,

  

   it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some

   time ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

  

   It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the

   same site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

  

   Any comment?

  

   Thank you

  

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   Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

  

   Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

  

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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Jeromie Reeves
No that would be shooting myself in the foot. Yes I have lost much due
to the cable, others have lost more. Id like to RMA my devices but
some are old. IMO they only died cause of the water reaching the PoE
and shorting it. I have gone back to Belden. It does not fit into the
gear quite right but it works and ive not had issues with it.


On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
 Hi all

 any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable CARRIER ?

 Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

 It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's also
 the service interruption

 Thank you

 I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent
 with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket
 has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and
 hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost
 like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,
 the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new
 install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:
 Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just appear
 in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried because we've been
 recommending this shielded cable to all our customers esp. in lighting-prone
 areas like OK.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???


 I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.  I know
 that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new cable
 that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have them replace the radios
 and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes of new
 UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM
 To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with dead
 ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the
 cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it was
 used as those sites fail.

 On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you

 --


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 Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

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 Fax : +39-091-8772072
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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Ben Moore
Hi Guys,

Anyone experiencing problems with the ToughCable, please get in touch with
support - supp...@ubnt.com and we will get this addressed ASAP.  This has
also been addressed with the new ToughCable that has been shipping for the
past 8-9 months.

We were at Wispapalooza (highest level sponsor), and had a QA session
during the show as well as had our own show the day before the event, with
many QA sessions.

Thanks,
Ben Moore


On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 I just heard about these problems last week at WISPAPALOOZA from Matt
 Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious issue and one that should be
 addressed by the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a great partner for WISPA
 and the industry, they do need to take responsibility for products
 developed and pushed to market without proper testing.  I am BCC copying
 Ben Moore to see what they intend to do about this problem.  It will be
 interesting to know how many reels of this defective cable were sold,
 whether the defective coating has been corrected and whether replacement
 cable will be shipped.  

 ** **

 It would be the best interest of everyone if class action can be avoided.
 Let’s come to the table and come to a satisfactory conclusion for all.  I
 will await Ben and Ubiquiti’s response before taking any further steps.***
 *

 ** **

 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *

 ** **

 Respectfully,**

 * *

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

 adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

  Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco

  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM

  To: WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 

  Hi all

 

  any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable
 CARRIER

  ?

 

  Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

 

  It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's also
 the service

  interruption

 

  Thank you

 

   I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent

   with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket

   has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and

   hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost

   like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,

   the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new

   install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

  

   On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com

  wrote:

   Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just

   appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried

   because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our

   customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK.

  

   Tom S.

  

   - Original Message -

   From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com

   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

  

   I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.

   I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want

   any new cable that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have

   them replace the radios and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would

   ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

  

   Steve Barnes

   General Manager

   PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

  

  

   -Original Message-

   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
   [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org
 ]

   On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM

   To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

   Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with

   dead ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We

   used the cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more

   places it was used as those sites fail.

  

   On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco

   paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

   Hi All,

  

   it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some

   time ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

  

   It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the

   same site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

  

   Any comment?

  

   Thank you

  

   --

  

  

   Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

  

   Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

  

   Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

  

   C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825

   Fax

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Ben Moore
Hi Rick,

I will add a little more to this...The cable itself was tested thoroughly
prior to release (UV, outdoor rating, etc...).  The cable passed all
testing.  Unfortunately, some of the cable did not have the same quality as
the cable that was tested/passed testing.  We have corrected this and moved
away from the vendor that caused these issues.  The new cable has not had
any issues.

As stated, we will work any customer that has experienced problems with the
cable.  Please contact us directly.

Thanks,
Ben

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 I just heard about these problems last week at WISPAPALOOZA from Matt
 Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious issue and one that should be
 addressed by the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a great partner for WISPA
 and the industry, they do need to take responsibility for products
 developed and pushed to market without proper testing.  I am BCC copying
 Ben Moore to see what they intend to do about this problem.  It will be
 interesting to know how many reels of this defective cable were sold,
 whether the defective coating has been corrected and whether replacement
 cable will be shipped.  

 ** **

 It would be the best interest of everyone if class action can be avoided.
 Let’s come to the table and come to a satisfactory conclusion for all.  I
 will await Ben and Ubiquiti’s response before taking any further steps.***
 *

 ** **

 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *

 ** **

 Respectfully,**

 * *

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

 adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

  Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco

  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM

  To: WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 

  Hi all

 

  any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable
 CARRIER

  ?

 

  Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

 

  It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's also
 the service

  interruption

 

  Thank you

 

   I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent

   with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket

   has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and

   hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost

   like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,

   the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new

   install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

  

   On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com

  wrote:

   Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just

   appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried

   because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our

   customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK.

  

   Tom S.

  

   - Original Message -

   From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com

   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

  

   I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.

   I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want

   any new cable that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have

   them replace the radios and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would

   ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

  

   Steve Barnes

   General Manager

   PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

  

  

   -Original Message-

   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
   [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org
 ]

   On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM

   To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

   Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with

   dead ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We

   used the cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more

   places it was used as those sites fail.

  

   On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco

   paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

   Hi All,

  

   it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some

   time ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

  

   It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the

   same site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

  

   Any comment?

  

   Thank you

  

   --

  

  

   Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

  

   Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

  

   Sede

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Ben Moore
Hi Jerome,

Please contact us on this - supp...@ubnt.com and ben.mo...@ubnt.com

Thanks,
Ben

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote:

 No that would be shooting myself in the foot. Yes I have lost much due
 to the cable, others have lost more. Id like to RMA my devices but
 some are old. IMO they only died cause of the water reaching the PoE
 and shorting it. I have gone back to Belden. It does not fit into the
 gear quite right but it works and ive not had issues with it.


 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
  Hi all
 
  any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable
 CARRIER ?
 
  Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?
 
  It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's also
  the service interruption
 
  Thank you
 
  I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent
  with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket
  has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and
  hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost
  like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,
  the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new
  install for the customer, except the roof tripod.
 
  On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
 wrote:
  Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just
 appear
  in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried because we've
 been
  recommending this shielded cable to all our customers esp. in
 lighting-prone
  areas like OK.
 
  Tom S.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???
 
 
  I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.  I
 know
  that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new
 cable
  that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have them replace the
 radios
  and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes
 of new
  UBNT cable.  I would put it out.
 
  Steve Barnes
  General Manager
  PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM
  To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???
 
  Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with
 dead
  ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the
  cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it was
  used as those sites fail.
 
  On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco
  paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time
  ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.
 
  It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the
 same
  site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...
 
  Any comment?
 
  Thank you
 
  --
 
 
  Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
 
  Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
 
  Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
 
  C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
  Fax : +39-091-8772072
  assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
  web: http://www.level7.it
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Rick

first of all thank you for taking care of the issue.

I will try to contact Ubiquiti in order to see what they can do for me

Thanks to all WISPA members for the info :)


 I just heard about these problems last week at WISPAPALOOZA from Matt
 Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious issue and one that should be
 addressed by the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a great partner for
 WISPA and the industry, they do need to take responsibility for products
 developed and pushed to market without proper testing.  I am BCC copying
 Ben Moore to see what they intend to do about this problem.  It will be
 interesting to know how many reels of this defective cable were sold,
 whether the defective coating has been corrected and whether replacement
 cable will be shipped.

 It would be the best interest of everyone if class action can be
 avoided.  Let’s come to the table and come to a satisfactory conclusion
 for all.  I will await Ben and Ubiquiti’s response before taking any
 further steps.

 */Where there is a Wisp, there is a way!
 http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way__/*

 Respectfully,**

 **

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

 adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

   -Original Message-

   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

   Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco

   Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM

   To: WISPA General List

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

   Hi all

  

   any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable
 CARRIER

   ?

  

   Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

  

   It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's
 also the service

   interruption

  

   Thank you

  

I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent

with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket

has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and

hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost

like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,

the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new

install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

   

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
 mailto:tsharp...@qorvus.com

   wrote:

Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just

appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried

because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our

customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK.

   

Tom S.

   

- Original Message -

From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com mailto:st...@pcswin.com

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org

Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

   

   

I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.

I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want

any new cable that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have

them replace the radios and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would

ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

   

Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

   

   

-Original Message-

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves

Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM

To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it
 mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

   

Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with

dead ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We

used the cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more

places it was used as those sites fail.

   

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco

paolo.difrance...@level7.it
 mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

Hi All,

   

it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some

time ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

   

It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the

same site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

   

Any comment?

   

Thank you

   

--

   

   

Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

   

Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

   

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

   

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825

Fax : +39-091-8772072

assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432

web: http://www.level7.it

   

   

   

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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Tom Sharples

  
  
Ben can you provide a list of
  batch-codes that are known bad, or at least verify if one we have
  in stock is known bad? I'm looking at a roll here with these codes
  on the wrapper: NI HK 102354 11206 1250 Is that bad or good?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Tom S.
  
  
  On 11/3/2012 9:47 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

Hi Rick,
  
  
  I will add a little more to this...The cable itself was
tested thoroughly prior to release (UV, outdoor rating, etc...).
The cable passed all testing. Unfortunately, some of the cable
did not have the same quality as the cable that was
tested/passed testing. We have corrected this and moved away
from the vendor that caused these issues. The new cable has not
had any issues.
  
  
  As stated, we will work any customer that has experienced
problems with the cable. Please contact us directly.
  
  
  Thanks,
  Ben 
  
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Rick
  Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
  wrote:
  

  
I just heard about these problems last week at
  WISPAPALOOZA from Matt Villarreal. It sounds like a
  serious issue and one that should be addressed by the
  manufacturer. While Ubiquiti is a great partner for
  WISPA and the industry, they do need to take
  responsibility for products developed and pushed to
  market without proper testing. I am BCC copying Ben
  Moore to see what they intend to do about this
  problem. It will be interesting to know how many
  reels of this defective cable were sold, whether the
  defective coating has been corrected and whether
  replacement cable will be shipped. 

It would be the best interest of everyone if class
  action can be avoided. Lets come to the table and
  come to a satisfactory conclusion for all. I will
  await Ben and Ubiquitis response before taking any
  further steps.

Where
there is a Wisp, there is a way!

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
Executive Director
WISPA
260-307-4000 cell
866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA
  Office
Skype: rick.harnish.

  rharn...@wispa.org
adm...@wispa.org
  (Trina and Rick)

  



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco
 Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables
  failing???
 
 Hi all

   
 any feedback (positive or negative) regarding
  the new "TOUGHCable CARRIER"
 ?
 
 Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class
  action ?
 
 It's not only the value of the cable or smoked
  devices itself, it's also the service
 interruption
 
 Thank you
 
  I just saw our first failure a couple weeks
  ago, it was consistent
  with photos I've seen of other ubnt
  toughcable failures. The jacket
  has turned from the original grey color to
  a translucent green, and
  hairline cracks then develop across the
  diameter of the cable. Almost
  like the plastic has shrunk, imagine
  alligator skin. In this failure,
  the POE was soaked and the radio had a
  blown eth port. Complete new
  install for the customer, except the roof
  tripod.
 
  On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom
  Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
 wrote:
  Steve do you know specifically what
  failed yet? Did random holes just
  appear in the sheath? Is yours the
  black or green? I'm worried
  because we've been recommending this
  shielded cable to all our
  cus

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Ben Moore
Hi Tom,

Is this the TC-L1/L2 or the Carrier/Pro?

Thanks,
Ben

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:

  Ben can you provide a list of batch-codes that are known bad, or at
 least verify if one we have in stock is known bad? I'm looking at a roll
 here with these codes on the wrapper: NI HK 102354 11206 1250 Is that bad
 or good?

 Thanks,

 Tom S.



 On 11/3/2012 9:47 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Hi Rick,

  I will add a little more to this...The cable itself was tested
 thoroughly prior to release (UV, outdoor rating, etc...).  The cable passed
 all testing.  Unfortunately, some of the cable did not have the same
 quality as the cable that was tested/passed testing.  We have corrected
 this and moved away from the vendor that caused these issues.  The new
 cable has not had any issues.

  As stated, we will work any customer that has experienced problems with
 the cable.  Please contact us directly.

  Thanks,
 Ben

 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

  I just heard about these problems last week at WISPAPALOOZA from Matt
 Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious issue and one that should be
 addressed by the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a great partner for WISPA
 and the industry, they do need to take responsibility for products
 developed and pushed to market without proper testing.  I am BCC copying
 Ben Moore to see what they intend to do about this problem.  It will be
 interesting to know how many reels of this defective cable were sold,
 whether the defective coating has been corrected and whether replacement
 cable will be shipped.



 It would be the best interest of everyone if class action can be
 avoided.  Let’s come to the table and come to a satisfactory conclusion for
 all.  I will await Ben and Ubiquiti’s response before taking any further
 steps.



 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *



 Respectfully,

 * *

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

 adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)









  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

  Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco

  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM

  To: WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 

  Hi all

 

  any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable
 CARRIER

  ?

 

  Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

 

  It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's
 also the service

  interruption

 

  Thank you

 

   I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent

   with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket

   has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and

   hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost

   like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,

   the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new

   install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

  

   On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com

  wrote:

   Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just

   appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried

   because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our

   customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK.

  

   Tom S.

  

   - Original Message -

   From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com

   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

  

   I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.

   I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want

   any new cable that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have

   them replace the radios and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would

   ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

  

   Steve Barnes

   General Manager

   PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

  

  

   -Original Message-

   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
   [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org
 ]

   On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM

   To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

   Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with

   dead ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We

   used the cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more

   places it was used as those sites fail.

  

   On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco

   paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

   Hi All,

  

   it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Tom Sharples

  
  
It's "Toughcable Pro Level 1" We bought
  the roll maybe 3 months ago.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Tom S.
  
  
  On 11/3/2012 7:31 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

Hi Tom,
  
  Is this the TC-L1/L2 or the Carrier/Pro?
  
  Thanks,
  Ben
  
  On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Tom
Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
wrote:

  
Ben can you provide a list of batch-codes that are
  known bad, or at least verify if one we have in stock is
  known bad? I'm looking at a roll here with these codes on
  the wrapper: NI HK 102354 11206 1250 Is that bad or good?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Tom S.
  

  
  
  On 11/3/2012 9:47 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

  


  
Hi Rick,
  
  
  I will add a little more to this...The cable
itself was tested thoroughly prior to release (UV,
outdoor rating, etc...).  The cable passed all
testing.  Unfortunately, some of the cable did not
have the same quality as the cable that was
tested/passed testing.  We have corrected this and
moved away from the vendor that caused these issues.
 The new cable has not had any issues.
  
  
  As stated, we will work any customer that has
experienced problems with the cable.  Please contact
us directly.
  
  
  Thanks,
  Ben  
  
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:34
  AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
  wrote:
  

  
I just heard about these problems last
  week at WISPAPALOOZA from Matt
  Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious
  issue and one that should be addressed by
  the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a
  great partner for WISPA and the industry,
  they do need to take responsibility for
  products developed and pushed to market
  without proper testing.  I am BCC copying
  Ben Moore to see what they intend to do
  about this problem.  It will be
  interesting to know how many reels of this
  defective cable were sold, whether the
  defective coating has been corrected and
  whether replacement cable will be
  shipped.  
 
It would be the best interest of everyone
  if class action can be avoided.  Let’s
  come to the table and come to a
  satisfactory conclusion for all.  I will
  await Ben and Ubiquiti’s response before
  taking any further steps.
 
Where
there is a Wisp, there is a way!
 
Respectfully,
 
Rick Harnish
Executive Director
WISPA
260-307-4000
  cell
866-317-2851
  Option 2 WISPA Office
Skype: rick.harnish.
 rharn...@wispa.org
adm...@wispa.org
  (Trina and Rick)
  
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
 Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco
 Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012
  8:03 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti
      cabl

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Josh Luthman
3 months ago Level 1 shouldn't exist.  The retailer probably has it labeled
incorrectly.  Level 1 and 2 essentially became Pro and Carrier.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:

  It's Toughcable Pro Level 1 We bought the roll maybe 3 months ago.

 Thanks,

 Tom S.



 On 11/3/2012 7:31 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Hi Tom,

 Is this the TC-L1/L2 or the Carrier/Pro?

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:

  Ben can you provide a list of batch-codes that are known bad, or at
 least verify if one we have in stock is known bad? I'm looking at a roll
 here with these codes on the wrapper: NI HK 102354 11206 1250 Is that bad
 or good?

 Thanks,

 Tom S.



 On 11/3/2012 9:47 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Hi Rick,

  I will add a little more to this...The cable itself was tested
 thoroughly prior to release (UV, outdoor rating, etc...).  The cable passed
 all testing.  Unfortunately, some of the cable did not have the same
 quality as the cable that was tested/passed testing.  We have corrected
 this and moved away from the vendor that caused these issues.  The new
 cable has not had any issues.

  As stated, we will work any customer that has experienced problems with
 the cable.  Please contact us directly.

  Thanks,
 Ben

 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

  I just heard about these problems last week at WISPAPALOOZA from Matt
 Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious issue and one that should be
 addressed by the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a great partner for WISPA
 and the industry, they do need to take responsibility for products
 developed and pushed to market without proper testing.  I am BCC copying
 Ben Moore to see what they intend to do about this problem.  It will be
 interesting to know how many reels of this defective cable were sold,
 whether the defective coating has been corrected and whether replacement
 cable will be shipped.



 It would be the best interest of everyone if class action can be
 avoided.  Let’s come to the table and come to a satisfactory conclusion for
 all.  I will await Ben and Ubiquiti’s response before taking any further
 steps.



 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *



 Respectfully,

 * *

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

 adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)









  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On

  Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco

  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM

  To: WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 

  Hi all

 

  any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable
 CARRIER

  ?

 

  Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

 

  It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's
 also the service

  interruption

 

  Thank you

 

   I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent

   with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket

   has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and

   hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost

   like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,

   the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new

   install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

  

   On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com

  wrote:

   Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes
 just

   appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried

   because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our

   customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK.

  

   Tom S.

  

   - Original Message -

   From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com

   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

  

   I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.

   I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want

   any new cable that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have

   them replace the radios and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would

   ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

  

   Steve Barnes

   General Manager

   PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

  

  

   -Original Message-

   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

   On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM

   To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-03 Thread Ben Moore
yeah, 3 months ago, this definitely shouldn't exist.  Can you send me
pics?  ben.mo...@ubnt.com  Where was this purchased?

Thanks,
Ben

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 3 months ago Level 1 shouldn't exist.  The retailer probably has it
 labeled incorrectly.  Level 1 and 2 essentially became Pro and Carrier.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.comwrote:

  It's Toughcable Pro Level 1 We bought the roll maybe 3 months ago.

 Thanks,

 Tom S.



 On 11/3/2012 7:31 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Hi Tom,

 Is this the TC-L1/L2 or the Carrier/Pro?

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.comwrote:

  Ben can you provide a list of batch-codes that are known bad, or at
 least verify if one we have in stock is known bad? I'm looking at a roll
 here with these codes on the wrapper: NI HK 102354 11206 1250 Is that bad
 or good?

 Thanks,

 Tom S.



 On 11/3/2012 9:47 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Hi Rick,

  I will add a little more to this...The cable itself was tested
 thoroughly prior to release (UV, outdoor rating, etc...).  The cable passed
 all testing.  Unfortunately, some of the cable did not have the same
 quality as the cable that was tested/passed testing.  We have corrected
 this and moved away from the vendor that caused these issues.  The new
 cable has not had any issues.

  As stated, we will work any customer that has experienced problems
 with the cable.  Please contact us directly.

  Thanks,
 Ben

 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

  I just heard about these problems last week at WISPAPALOOZA from Matt
 Villarreal.  It sounds like a serious issue and one that should be
 addressed by the manufacturer.  While Ubiquiti is a great partner for WISPA
 and the industry, they do need to take responsibility for products
 developed and pushed to market without proper testing.  I am BCC copying
 Ben Moore to see what they intend to do about this problem.  It will be
 interesting to know how many reels of this defective cable were sold,
 whether the defective coating has been corrected and whether replacement
 cable will be shipped.



 It would be the best interest of everyone if class action can be
 avoided.  Let’s come to the table and come to a satisfactory conclusion for
 all.  I will await Ben and Ubiquiti’s response before taking any further
 steps.



 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *



 Respectfully,

 * *

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

 adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)









  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On

  Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco

  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:03 AM

  To: WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 

  Hi all

 

  any feedback (positive or negative) regarding the new TOUGHCable
 CARRIER

  ?

 

  Just for curiosity: Anybody thinking of a class action ?

 

  It's not only the value of the cable or smoked devices itself, it's
 also the service

  interruption

 

  Thank you

 

   I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent

   with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket

   has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and

   hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable.
 Almost

   like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this
 failure,

   the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new

   install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

  

   On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com

  wrote:

   Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes
 just

   appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried

   because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our

   customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK.

  

   Tom S.

  

   - Original Message -

   From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com

   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

   Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM

   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

  

  

   I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.

   I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want

   any new cable that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have

   them replace the radios and go one with Life.  Not sure how I
 would

   ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

  

   Steve Barnes

   General Manager

   PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

  

  

   -Original Message-

   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Tom

yes I am talking about the outdoor shielded cable

the connectors are the ubiquiti one but it seems that the cables are 
taking water from some hole in the cable or something like that

Thanks to all for the answers

  Are you talking about their  outdoor shielded cable? If so, we've been
 seeing some fabrication / connector mechanical stability problems at our
 end. Haven't had them out long enough to see what you're seeing. Is the
 vinyl jacket failing or do you know what the exact problem is? What
 RJ-45 connectors are you using?

 Tom S.



 On 11/1/2012 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:
 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you





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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Josh

yes we used the green cables then we noticed it changed to a new color

I will try to contact ubiquiti, but the cables are installed around the 
places so I really don't know how to remember if they are green or 
whatever they are

By the way, it's quite annoying that we get the devices burned by these 
damn cables

Thank you

  The green level 1 and 2 stuff is junk.  Get a receipt and they'll ship
 you their new cable.  The labor is all at a loss :(

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Nov 1, 2012 7:52 PM, Paolo Di Francesco
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you

 --


 Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

 Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

 C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072
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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with
dead ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used
the cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it
was used as those sites fail.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco
paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you

 --


 Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

 Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

 C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
 Fax : +39-091-8772072
 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
 web: http://www.level7.it



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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Steve Barnes
I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.  I know that 
I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new cable that will 
fail in a year.  I think I will just have them replace the radios and go one 
with Life.  Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I 
would put it out.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM
To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with dead 
ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the cable in 
short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it was used as those 
sites fail.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco 
paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time 
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same 
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you

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 Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Tom Sharples
Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just appear 
in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried because we've been 
recommending this shielded cable to all our customers esp. in lighting-prone 
areas like OK.

Tom S.

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???


I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.  I know 
that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new cable 
that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have them replace the radios 
and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes of new 
UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM
 To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with dead 
 ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the 
 cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it was 
 used as those sites fail.

 On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco 
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you

 --


 Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

 Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

 C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
 Fax : +39-091-8772072
 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
 web: http://www.level7.it



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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Chris Fabien
I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent
with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket
has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and
hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost
like the plastic has shrunk, imagine alligator skin. In this failure,
the POE was soaked and the radio had a blown eth port. Complete new
install for the customer, except the roof tripod.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:
 Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just appear
 in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried because we've been
 recommending this shielded cable to all our customers esp. in lighting-prone
 areas like OK.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???


I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.  I know
that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new cable
that will fail in a year.  I think I will just have them replace the radios
and go one with Life.  Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes of new
UBNT cable.  I would put it out.

 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM
 To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

 Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with dead
 ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the
 cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it was
 used as those sites fail.

 On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you

 --


 Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

 Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

 C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
 Fax : +39-091-8772072
 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
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[WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-01 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi All,

it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time 
ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same 
site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

Any comment?

Thank you

-- 


Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

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Fax : +39-091-8772072
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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-01 Thread Josh Luthman
The green level 1 and 2 stuff is junk.  Get a receipt and they'll ship you
their new cable.  The labor is all at a loss :(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 1, 2012 7:52 PM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it
wrote:

 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you

 --


 Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

 Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

 C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
 Fax : +39-091-8772072
 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
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