Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan
We have the same issue with ATT/Qwest. Getting a DS-3 right now using ATT as the loop, delivered via fiber. They put a Fujitsu box in our office, which i know they can just pop in an ethernet card and offer us a direct ethernet hookup, but they say it's not available in our area. I've talked to the local ATT engineer about this and she says that it's all technically possible and the equipment is there, just a matter of getting the sales department to come up with pricing in our area and make the service available. Been going through this for 2 years now, with no hope in site of getting a direct ethernet feed from them. Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 9/2/2010 11:04 AM, Matt wrote: I am looking for multiple connections to the internet. We currently have ATT Fiber and IPs. We want to look at redundancy in terms of becoming a BGP peer, and purchasing our own IP addresses. The ONLY other provider in our area is Comcast. Has anyone worked with them to do any BGP peering? We currently have ATT fiber at both our headends used to deliver the Qwest DS'3. We are in old SBC territory. ATT has stated in past we cannot get FastE and our next step can only be OC3's and the loop price is a killer on these. Just talked to our previous ACC/ATT rep from back when we only had T1's. He thought we should be able to get ~FastE if we have fiber and he is going to do some deep digging and get back to us in a week or so. Anyone have any inside knowledge why we cannot get FastE or what is it called OptiMan something if we have fiber? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan
I am looking for multiple connections to the internet. We currently have ATT Fiber and IPs. We want to look at redundancy in terms of becoming a BGP peer, and purchasing our own IP addresses. The ONLY other provider in our area is Comcast. Has anyone worked with them to do any BGP peering? We currently have ATT fiber at both our headends used to deliver the Qwest DS'3. We are in old SBC territory. ATT has stated in past we cannot get FastE and our next step can only be OC3's and the loop price is a killer on these. Just talked to our previous ACC/ATT rep from back when we only had T1's. He thought we should be able to get ~FastE if we have fiber and he is going to do some deep digging and get back to us in a week or so. Anyone have any inside knowledge why we cannot get FastE or what is it called OptiMan something if we have fiber? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan
The CO may not have the right gear. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/2/2010 11:04 AM, Matt wrote: I am looking for multiple connections to the internet. We currently have ATT Fiber and IPs. We want to look at redundancy in terms of becoming a BGP peer, and purchasing our own IP addresses. The ONLY other provider in our area is Comcast. Has anyone worked with them to do any BGP peering? We currently have ATT fiber at both our headends used to deliver the Qwest DS'3. We are in old SBC territory. ATT has stated in past we cannot get FastE and our next step can only be OC3's and the loop price is a killer on these. Just talked to our previous ACC/ATT rep from back when we only had T1's. He thought we should be able to get ~FastE if we have fiber and he is going to do some deep digging and get back to us in a week or so. Anyone have any inside knowledge why we cannot get FastE or what is it called OptiMan something if we have fiber? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan
Who is the local power company in your area ? (Pretty much all power companies have a side division which deploys and operates a fiber network.) Most of them provide services carrier to carrier as such don't advertise too much... The power companies have right of way and as such can bring fiber service to anywhere... (these days the alternate Cell Carriers are big clients of the Power/Fiber companies... since the local ILECS, pretty much refuse to provide them with reasonable cost, high capacity circuits). Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/2/2010 12:04 PM, Matt wrote: I am looking for multiple connections to the internet. We currently have ATT Fiber and IPs. We want to look at redundancy in terms of becoming a BGP peer, and purchasing our own IP addresses. The ONLY other provider in our area is Comcast. Has anyone worked with them to do any BGP peering? We currently have ATT fiber at both our headends used to deliver the Qwest DS'3. We are in old SBC territory. ATT has stated in past we cannot get FastE and our next step can only be OC3's and the loop price is a killer on these. Just talked to our previous ACC/ATT rep from back when we only had T1's. He thought we should be able to get ~FastE if we have fiber and he is going to do some deep digging and get back to us in a week or so. Anyone have any inside knowledge why we cannot get FastE or what is it called OptiMan something if we have fiber? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan
https://primeaccess.att.com/shell.cfm?section=89 The CO has to support it. It is a form of metro Ethernet. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:04:33 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan I am looking for multiple connections to the internet. We currently have ATT Fiber and IPs. We want to look at redundancy in terms of becoming a BGP peer, and purchasing our own IP addresses. The ONLY other provider in our area is Comcast. Has anyone worked with them to do any BGP peering? We currently have ATT fiber at both our headends used to deliver the Qwest DS'3. We are in old SBC territory. ATT has stated in past we cannot get FastE and our next step can only be OC3's and the loop price is a killer on these. Just talked to our previous ACC/ATT rep from back when we only had T1's. He thought we should be able to get ~FastE if we have fiber and he is going to do some deep digging and get back to us in a week or so. Anyone have any inside knowledge why we cannot get FastE or what is it called OptiMan something if we have fiber? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 11:04 -0500, Matt wrote: We currently have ATT fiber at both our headends used to deliver the Qwest DS'3. We are in old SBC territory. ATT has stated in past we cannot get FastE and our next step can only be OC3's and the loop price is a killer on these. Just talked to our previous ACC/ATT rep from back when we only had T1's. He thought we should be able to get ~FastE if we have fiber and he is going to do some deep digging and get back to us in a week or so. Anyone have any inside knowledge why we cannot get FastE or what is it called OptiMan something if we have fiber? It's Opt E MAN... https://primeaccess.att.com/shell.cfm?section=89 We were in the same situation (ATT fiber with a DS3 for ~10 years), but they did let us upgrade from our DS3 to Opt E MAN without pulling any new fiber. Maybe they don't have that capability in your CO? -Kristian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan
This doesn't seem to work well. I am served by ATT fiber from a manhole 2 feet from by building. The fiber has been here over 20 years, plus they just made a new pull this spring. I entered my address, got back: This address is not within 500 feet of a fiber path owned by one of the ATT incumbent local exchange companies. Then I put in the address of the ATT central office, got the same results. Do they have anybody actually running this company? - Original Message - From: Charles N Wyble To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan Of particular interest is http://www.corp.att.com/wholesale/find_fiber/find_fiber.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan
One of the strategies we have used with clients in the past is order bonded T1s. Most likely the local plant will run out of copper. Amazing how quickly they come up with fiber or something for you. Seen this happen several times. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Mike Mattox wi...@mcmsys.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 13:13:32 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan This doesn't seem to work well. I am served by ATT fiber from a manhole 2 feet from by building. The fiber has been here over 20 years, plus they just made a new pull this spring. I entered my address, got back: This address is not within 500 feet of a fiber path owned by one of the ATT incumbent local exchange companies. Then I put in the address of the ATT central office, got the same results. Do they have anybody actually running this company? - Original Message - From: Charles N Wyble mailto:char...@knownelement.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan Of particular interest is http://www.corp.att.com/wholesale/find_fiber/find_fiber.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers; OptiMan
One of the strategies we have used with clients in the past is order bonded T1s. Most likely the local plant will run out of copper. Amazing how quickly they come up with fiber or something for you. Seen this happen several times. Just got another full OC3 quote for one of these locations. 20K$ monthly plus change. The port part of this was only like 5.6K$ monthly and the rest was loop. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
