Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-19 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Mark, Not to belittle your opinion but many of my customers would say just the opposite in that they're actually saving money by deploying Alvarion. The cost of owning a network isn't based

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP, arguably OT

2006-04-19 Thread Patrick Leary
Alvarion in their networks. Anyway, please excuse the long winded, ra-ra post. - Patrick -Original Message- From: Mark Koskenmaki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Brad, it would

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP, arguably OT

2006-04-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP, arguably OT As we all know, this can take the form of an almost religious debate, which I'm going to try to avoid (and I'll ask Brad or others from Alvarion to avoid the same). We here have a strong

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-19 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 4/19/06, Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The telephone company didn't choose a system with $500 CPE. They have a$50 CPE.Same with Cable. We can all understand the infrastructurebuildout and the considerable cost in building it, but even they grasp the cost of growth limitation

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-19 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
!- - Original Message - From: Dylan Oliver To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP On 4/19/06, Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-18 Thread Brad Larson
: Saturday, April 15, 2006 2:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP It is not financially feasible for a mainstream WISP, who is attempting to serve all types of internet customers to rely on BA for anything but specialized application., It's just too

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-17 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
! - - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Mainstream WISPs need good backhaul to interconnect tower locations. Whatever a WISP uses I am guessing

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-17 Thread danlist
Scrivner Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP I disagree. I weighed the performance specs and price and I feel I will save money with this platform. If you are saying it is more expensive than other platforms then you

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-17 Thread John Scrivner
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP I disagree. I weighed the performance specs and price and I feel I will save money with this platform. If you are saying it is more expensive than other platforms then you are right but the performance boost and wider coverage per cell make up

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-17 Thread Charles Wu
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:44 AM

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-16 Thread Dylan Oliver
On a related note, Raising Capital: Get the Money You Need to Grow Your Business is an excellent book. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-16 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
! - - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP I disagree. I weighed the performance specs and price and I feel I will save money with this platform

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-16 Thread John Scrivner
Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP I

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-15 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Mark, Come on.The whole BreezeAccess product family was made and continues to get upgrades for WISP's. There are well over 1,000 WISP's using our gear in the states alone. You won't find many of them here or on other WISP threads

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-15 Thread John Scrivner
! - - Original Message - From: Brad Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Mark, Come

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-14 Thread Brad Larson
and not mainstream and there is some division is a real strech. Brad - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP With that said I still think

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-14 Thread Brad Larson
. Brad -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP agreed, VL is far from carrier grade On Apr 12, 2006, at 9:16 AM, Charles Wu wrote: snip Motorola

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Tom, I am confused about your testing. If you are testing a link, and it has 2% packet

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Tom, I am confused about your testing. If you are testing a link, and it has 2% packet loss, then the link is going to run 2%-4% slower due to the loss, therefore the results will reflect that loss. Ever run a speed test across a link

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Stroh Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Thanks, Steve On Apr 11, 2006, at 18:55, Dylan Oliver wrote: How is any product qualified as 'Carrier-Grade'? What

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Steve, What defines something as carrier grade should also be: 1. Scalablity 2. True QOS ( QOS performance in the upstream and downstream ) On Apr 12, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Steve Stroh wrote: John: Here's my working definition of carrier grade: Designed for use by carriers Suitable for use

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Travis Johnson
DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Tom, I am confused about your

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Tim Wolfe
I was thinking I would be the devils advocate, and ask this question: Why go thru all the hassle of learning Mikrotik(Which, IMHO, Is a PITA), when You can save the learning curve, and use Tranzeo, Deliberant or even HighGain Antennas solutions that are cheap and easy to administer and a

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Tom, Again, I am confused. You state that TCP will correct for packet loss it detects... so in that case

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP I have been planning my WISP for about a year, and have yet to begin delivery of bandwidth to customers. My choice for service delivery was 802.11b, but with increased competition

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP As a former Canopy user, I would like to point out a couple of issues not mentioned here. 1) Canopy is limited to vertical polarity in PTMP deployments. Trango and many other systems can be deployed in horizontal polarity, pretty much avoiding any Canopy

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Steve Stroh
Motorola designed Canopy specifically for the WISP market, not the carrier market. Alvarion designed VL specifically for the carrier market, not the WISP market. Thanks, Steve On Apr 11, 2006, at 18:55, Dylan Oliver wrote: How is any product qualified as 'Carrier-Grade'? What is it

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Charles Wu
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Thanks, Steve On Apr 11, 2006, at 18:55, Dylan Oliver wrote: How is any product qualified as 'Carrier-Grade'? What is it about Alvarion VL that makes the cut vs. Canopy? Lord knows Motorola produces far more 'Carrier

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Michael Watson
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config, using 20mhz of spectrum? Travis Microserv Paul Hendry wrote: All the details are on the Valemount web site http

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Steve Stroh
John: Here's my working definition of carrier grade: Designed for use by carriers Suitable for use by carriers Sufficiently reliable for use by carriers There is MUCH that goes into a product designed for use by carriers. It's expensive and a tough market, so a lot of vendors don't try. Here

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Hi, Does anyone

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP It is TCP. We do not use UDP since it gives

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
9:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Using the 533 MHz IXP-420 we can get an Atheros to just over 35 mbps of non compressible data and almost 90 mbps of compressible data. Lonnie On 4/11/06, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, We had this discussion a few weeks

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP It is TCP. We do not use UDP since it gives a reading

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread danlist
] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP What we do is measure non compressible data and that becomes the absolute max I will let someone ask for. That means with compressible data we do

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Carl A Jeptha
Here's the reply for all answers. Look at the name of the association. WISPA. We are not carriers, we Do Not get listed on the stock-exchange, we do not have money to burn. This is the reason for our existence. We deliver the goods where these fools fear to tread. A Microcell with 10 customers

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Steve, excellent points. except... (also see inline) By your definition of Carrier grade, I could argue that many WISPs that just so happen not to use Alvarion, may very well better meet the definition of carrier grade than the carriers themselves. One of the negatives about the Alvarion

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP This may be the case, but the test we perform seems to describe what we

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Travis Johnson
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP This may be the case, but the test we perform seems

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP With that said I still think Alvarion is a far better platform than Canopy which is strictly my opinion and has no basis in fact. In the past I

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Chad Halsted
I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine. :D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Chad, Based on your post, I just

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP This may be the case, but the test we perform seems to describe what we see in real life use. As long as you have consistency it does not matter what you do. The ability to compare apples to apples

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread Steve Stroh
Tom: My defense of Alvarion is pretty mild. They're definitely drifting down the innovation curve, not up. They're incredibly arrogant about not doing Wi-Fi despite the growing, impressive wins of Wi-Fi mesh vendors. They're not doing mesh, etc. They now are involved pretty deeply in the

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-12 Thread George
I've always looked at Alvarion as being carrier grade or as close as anything I've seen. And they are a fine company. George Steve Stroh wrote: Tom: My defense of Alvarion is pretty mild. They're definitely drifting down the innovation curve, not up. They're incredibly arrogant about

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Richard Goodin
Guys; These all sound great. I was reading just a couple months back about a WISP operator that had a severe problem. Just a few yards away, maybe 300 feet, another guy put up his tower. I think they were both on 2.4 GHZ, and someone suggested a different AP that would not even be

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Richard Goodin
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Goodin Sent: 11 April 2006 08:09 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Guys; These all sound great. I was reading just a couple months back about a WISP operator that had a severe problem. Just a few yards away

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Paul Hendry
All the details are on the Valemount web site http://www.staros.com/starvx/ Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Goodin Sent: 11 April 2006 09:15 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP So

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Tim Wolfe
Richard Goodin wrote: Guys; These all sound great. I was reading just a couple months back about a WISP operator that had a severe problem. Just a few yards away, maybe 300 feet, another guy put up his tower. I think they were both on 2.4 GHZ, and someone suggested a different AP that

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Richard Goodin Sent: 11 April 2006 09:15 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP So... Who makes them?, how much? Hi Richard, This cloaking mechanism is the 5MHz and 10MHz channel sizes

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread George
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Goodin Sent: 11 April 2006 09:15 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP So... Who makes them?, how much? Hi Richard, This cloaking mechanism is the 5MHz and 10MHz

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Forrest W Christian
Richard Goodin wrote: I have been planning my WISP for about a year, and have yet to begin delivery of bandwidth to customers. Since Canopy hasn't been mentioned yet, I'll mention it. You really can't go wrong with a canopy installation. It works, even in the presence of noise that would

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Mark Nash
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config, using 20mhz of spectrum? Travis Microserv Attached is a screen capture from the original 4 port

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
As a former Canopy user, I would like to point out a couple of issues not mentioned here. 1) Canopy is limited to vertical polarity in PTMP deployments. Trango and many other systems can be deployed in horizontal polarity, pretty much avoiding any Canopy in the area. 2) Canopy systems

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread John Scrivner
Replies inline below: Richard Goodin wrote: I have been planning my WISP for about a year, and have yet to begin delivery of bandwidth to customers. My choice for service delivery was 802.11b, but with increased competition from other services nearby (about 5 miles away) I am wondering how

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Jason Wallace
John Scrivner: Sadly the best Wifi solutions available do not have 100% FCC compliance. There are some that do though. Tranzeo is a good example. Look at Tranzeo for your Wifi based gear needs. Tranzeo is 100% FCC legal? I've been looking for the certs... Jason -- WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread fred
Might I inquire as to where the dishes can be had for $40? On 4/10/06, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's on quantity 30 $149 each. 5.8ghz, dual polarity, up to 3 miles (add $40 for a dish and it goes up to 13 miles) and delivers up to 10Mbps. Hard to beat! And with

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread John Scrivner
I sure thought I saw certs once on their site. I guess maybe you could call them and ask for the URL to their FCC certs? If you see this then passing those along here would sure be nice. Thanks, Scriv Jason Wallace wrote: John Scrivner: Sadly the best Wifi solutions available do not have

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Jason
To clarify, I was looking specifically for AP's that were certified for 120deg sectors. I Searched the FCC database and couldn't find anything about the Tranzeos. YMMV, however. Can anyone clear this up? A link? Jason John Scrivner wrote: I sure thought I saw certs once on their site. I

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Forrest W. Christian
John Scrivner wrote: I sure thought I saw certs once on their site. I guess maybe you could call them and ask for the URL to their FCC certs? If you see this then passing those along here would sure be nice. Tranzeo in the past has played fast and loose with certificates besides what they

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Rich Comroe
- From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP As a former Canopy user, I would like to point out a couple of issues not mentioned here. 1) Canopy is limited

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread danlist
, April 11, 2006 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config, using 20mhz of spectrum? Travis Microserv Paul Hendry wrote: All the details

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP   Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread danlist
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Dan, We had this discussion a few weeks ago, although it may have been on another wireless list. What processor and setup are you using to get

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread danlist
] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Dan, We had this discussion a few weeks ago, although it may have been on another wireless list

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
, April 11, 2006 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config, using 20mhz of spectrum? Travis Microserv Paul Hendry wrote: All the details

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP   Dan, We had this discussion a few weeks ago, although it may have been on another wireless list. What

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config, using 20mhz of spectrum

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config, using 20mhz of spectrum? Travis Microserv

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Dylan Oliver
How is any product qualified as 'Carrier-Grade'? What is it about Alvarion VL that makes the cut vs. Canopy? Lord knows Motorola produces far more 'Carrier-Grade' equipment than Alvarion ever will - so where did they go wrong with Canopy? Also, I've heard lately several complaints that Waverider

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Chad Halsted
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config, using 20mhz of spectrum? Travis Microserv Paul Hendry wrote: All the details are on the Valemount web sitehttp

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
PacWireless Dishes. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-10 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
If it's pretty absent of trees you might look at 5.8. Trango has that cpe for $150. Not going to find any propriety gear cheaper. Richard Goodin wrote: I have been planning my WISP for about a year, and have yet to begin delivery of bandwidth to customers. My choice for service delivery was

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-10 Thread Rick Smith
that's only quantity (large!) pricing isn't it ? Brian Rohrbacher wrote: If it's pretty absent of trees you might look at 5.8. Trango has that cpe for $150. Not going to find any propriety gear cheaper. Richard Goodin wrote: I have been planning my WISP for about a year, and have yet to

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-10 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Qty 30 (last I heard, I don't use them) Rick Smith wrote: that's only quantity (large!) pricing isn't it ? Brian Rohrbacher wrote: If it's pretty absent of trees you might look at 5.8. Trango has that cpe for $150. Not going to find any propriety gear cheaper. Richard Goodin wrote: I

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-10 Thread Travis Johnson
That's on quantity 30 $149 each. 5.8ghz, dual polarity, up to 3 miles (add $40 for a dish and it goes up to 13 miles) and delivers up to 10Mbps. Hard to beat! And with SmartPolling on the AP, you can get hundreds of customers per sector. Travis Microserv Rick Smith wrote: that's only

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-10 Thread George
Trango does make a good product. I still have 2 Sunstream AP's in use. They are like Timex watches. I'm using Star War boards. A little bit more than the trango s. The 2 card boards in a 5 gig rootenna let me use the 2nd card for an omni. Speeds are about 20+ megs or so and I cloak down to