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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:51 PM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Tom, I believe there is a huge advantage to being able
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:52 AM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Ever wondered why tcp troughput is so low vs udp on this mimo units?
Cross pol interference ... that's why
Try to run 2 mikrotik mimo
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Tom, I believe there is a huge advantage to being
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I'm not running 2 MIMO, but we are running 1 R5N MIMO and 1 XR5 link
pointing from/to the same location. I'm able to keep them from
interfering, and would only guess that we could keep 2 MIMO's from
interfering. There's enough 5Ghz
://www.ics-il.com
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From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Sorry dude, I love Ubiquity, but 100 subs on a atheros system on a chip
at 12/6
, 2009 8:26 PM
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I'm going to call BS here...
(1) You don't really have a noisy environment if you are able to run a basic
Powerstation AP with 100 subs and have it work at all. We are on towers on
hilltops that have over 120 antennas (dishes
: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:13 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Ubiquiti claims 150 megs of TCP/IP throughput, which is possible if you
add
upload and download as is common in the unlicensed world.
I couldn't tell from any documentation whether
: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
There's 250 MHz available in mid 5 GHz. It can easily do 10 miles on a PtP.
With bigger dishes, it can obviously go farther.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Rubens Kuhl rube
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Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:44 AM
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I know. 2' dishes will do 10 miles. 3' does 15 miles. 4' does 20 miles.
6' does 30 miles. All within 30 dB EIRP. Obviously radio\antenna
certification limits
Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:29 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
How is the size of the dish going to help
Might help reduce off-angle noise. Other than that, not much.
Tom S.
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From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
How is the size of the dish
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
There is an FCC EIRP maximum of 30 dB in 5.4 GHz that will limit the range
of any radio legally operating in this band.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org
To: WISPA General List wireless
: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
You decrease the radio output. Any good radio can do negative dB.
24 dB radio + 6 dBi omni = 30 dB EIRP
2 dB radio + 28 dBi 2' antenna = 30 dB EIRP
-7 dB radio + 37 dBi 6' antenna = 30 dB EIRP
It's still only 30 dB you say? Well, the receive antenna is 9 dB more
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Anything like GPS sync for frequency reuse?
Matt
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Nope. In the forums they say they have no plans for the existing and
announced products.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com wrote:
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Anything like GPS sync for frequency reuse?
No GPS sync, and TDMA is done in software, not hardware / fpga:
http://www.ubnt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13327start=30
Matt wrote:
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Anything like GPS sync for frequency reuse?
Matt
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Anything like GPS sync for frequency reuse?
Matt
, August 18, 2009 10:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Anything like GPS sync for frequency reuse?
Matt
Anyone had a chance to fully test any of Ubiquiti's claims like 150+mbps real
throughput and 300+ subscribers per AP? Much more impressive numbers than
Canopy.
Matt wrote:
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Anything like GPS
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Paul Hendry
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:00 PM
To: wireless
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Anyone had a chance to fully test any of Ubiquiti's claims like 150+mbps
real throughput and 300+ subscribers per AP? Much more impressive numbers
than
Wireless Broadband
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From: Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com
To: wireless wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Anyone had a chance to fully test any of Ubiquiti's claims like 150+mbps
real throughput
Low cost, dual pol and high gain. 19db 120' sector @ 5GHz ;) Interesting design
too.
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From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net]
Sent: 19 August 2009 00:08
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Yeah, but its misleading garbage specs.
Mimo
Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Anyone had a chance to fully test any of Ubiquiti's claims like 150+mbps
real throughput and 300+ subscribers per AP? Much more impressive
numbers
Baker
Sent: Tue 8/18/2009 7:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
MIMO (especially dual-pol) gets you much better performance. Cell phone
companies have been doing this for years and years.
You're 3dB vs 25dB comment is misleading. UBNT may need a received level of
-70dBm
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Jason
Im sorry but i find some stated facts very difficult to believe. the 25db vs
3db snr ratio is based on the fact that canopy can perform as expected with
just 3db over noise. MIMO based gear needs about 25 db snr ratio on both
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MIMO (especially dual-pol) gets you much better performance. Cell phone
companies have been doing this for years and years.
You're 3dB vs 25dB comment is misleading. UBNT may need a received level
of
-70dBm to achieve higher speeds
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
I never said you had to believe me. I know what we do, what our
environment
is like, and what works for us. I know our customers always get 12Mbps,
and
we never get support calls.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
I never said you had to believe me. I know what we do, what our
...@wispa.org on behalf of Jayson Baker
Sent: Tue 8/18/2009 7:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
MIMO (especially dual-pol) gets you much better performance. Cell phone
companies have been doing this for years and years.
You're 3dB vs 25dB comment is misleading. UBNT may
ther noise sources
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tue 8/18/2009 8:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Jason
Im sorry but i find some stated facts very difficult to believe. the 25db vs 3db snr rati
here
might be a low cost dual pol sector antenna available now?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Paul Hendry" paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com
To: "wireless" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday
may become cost
justified.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
MIMO
.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Baird
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com
until now...
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
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From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:19 PM
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Sorry dude, I love Ubiquity, but 100 subs
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Tom, I believe there is a huge advantage to being able to use HPOL and VPOL
at the same time with the same 20Mhz channel and get twice the bandwidth.
Its sort of like your personal gps sync within the device. Realistically
(for me anyway) I find that if there is strong noise on a give
ve you had a chance to test some MT MIMO gear out there yet?
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Hey Travis, your feedback is always valued. Thanks for sharing your
testing with us. I look forward to hearing about it...
Have you had a chance to test
Chuck Hogg wrote:
...
I'm not trying to bash Jayson's email. I don't see how you can get
130Mbit when the port is 100Mbit.
The way Ubiquiti justified this in a forum post was that the 130Mbps is
total throughput (up and down). 100Mbps ethernet at full duplex is
100Mbps in each direction.
I concur with Scott's idea that you get more efficient spectrum use.
We have just installed a Solectek excel link which uses 2x2 mimo. We
have a dual polarity 3' dish at one and and 2' dual polarity at the
other end of the 14 mile link.
We upgraded an Alvarion VL ptp link which maxed out at
Any idea when the Bullet M5 HP will be available?
Matt
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It's available now, they are supposed to make an announcement today
about the complete M line. NanoM/NanoLocoM/RocketM and such, those are
all Mimo/N/TDMA.
Regards
Michael Baird
Any idea when the Bullet M5 HP will be available?
Matt
It's available now, they are supposed to make an announcement today
about the complete M line. NanoM/NanoLocoM/RocketM and such, those are
all Mimo/N/TDMA.
Where can I order a couple?
Matt
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It's available now, they are supposed to make an announcement today
about the complete M line. NanoM/NanoLocoM/RocketM and such, those are
all Mimo/N/TDMA.
Where can I order a couple?
Matt
I'll let it be out a couple months to let some bugs get worked out of a
new product with a new operating system. Still, I'd be tempted to get a
pair to play with.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:22:29AM -0500, Matt wrote:
Any idea when the Bullet M5 HP will be available?
Matt
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Regards
Michael Baird
I'll let it be out a couple months to let some bugs get worked out of a
new product with a new operating system. Still, I'd be tempted to get a
pair to play with.
On Mon,
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Regards
Michael Baird
I'll let it be out a couple months to let some bugs get worked out of a
new product with a new operating system. Still, I'd
What I want is the home wireless router like the AP-1000 they
advertise but you cant find. -RickG
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Michael Bairdm...@tc3net.com wrote:
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Regards
Michael Baird
I'll let
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