Re: [WISPA] CPE radios

2008-08-24 Thread Jim Patient
Fireware or OS version?  When you install the new OS version you need to 
upgrade firmware/
/system routerboard upgrade

Try setting hw-retries to 4

I inherited some hi-gain and other junk CPEs when I bought a WISP in the 
area. We have been replacing them with MT CPEs when we have trouble with 
the disconnects.
I've had a few failures with Ubiquiti CPEs so I;m just sticking with MT 
all the way so I can sleep at night.

Jim

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I really like my Tranzeo CPQ radios.  But we're seeing a LOT of power supply 
> failures (and they are too cheap to even warranty, we just buy new ones). 
> Sometimes they don't fully fail either, they go low or something, the 
> injector lights up like it should but the radio just won't work right.
>
> What's really a problem is the dang'd Mikrotik to Tranzeo CPQ disconnect 
> problem.  It's driving my gamers and business customers nutso.  All CPQ 
> radios disconnect and reconnect at the same time, sometimes every few 
> minutes, sometimes every couple of days.
>
> This happens when there is an XR2 card in the Mikrotik.  Doesn't seem to 
> matter what firmware is on the radios.
>
> Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's?  They are too complicated to 
> set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great 
> information on who's doing what on my network.  And I am a point and click 
> GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with.  And I've 
> recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can see as 
> far as the customer experience is concerned.  I don't think we're getting 
> the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management mechanism for 
> Star so I'm not totally sure.
>
> Anyway, I tried a couple of the Ubiquity cpe units.  I liked the electronic 
> polarization capability.  Hated the router config.  And, they have both 
> basically failed in just a few months of service.  They were still working, 
> but the rx went to pot in them.  (19 dB tranzeo had -82 when put in vs. 
> the -97 of the ubiquity when it was pulled out)  So, now I have a 
> telecommuter with a Ubiquity radio that's on the fritz, can't use a tranzeo 
> because of the disconnect issue (she works via voip and can't use the phone 
> when it keeps dropping out for a second or two all day long).
>
> What are people having good luck with?
>
> I can't believe that wifi radios won't really connect to each other 
> correctly at this stage of the game.  Some of our manufacturers are getting 
> too lazy I think.  I need cheap gear, but mostly I need gear that works.
>
> I long for the old Teletronics 2 meg ap's.  Some of those from 2000 are 
> still in use today!  We never have to touch them!
>
> I think I'm gonna set up an MT unit to be a cpe for the one customer.  But I 
> have to figure out what to use going forward.  Either better ap's or cpe.
>
> For AP's I REALLY like the Teletronics 172 units.  They are cheap and work 
> very well with either b or g client radios.  But they blow ethernet ports 
> far too easily, and they lock up too often.  And I've NEVER used a worse AP 
> than the Tranzeo 6000 radios.  What a POS those are.  Constant lockups!  But 
> not at all locations.  Sometimes they work pretty well, but usually they 
> just suck.
>
> deep sigh
>
> Suggestions?
> marlon
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] CPE radios

2008-08-21 Thread RickG
Only when they break. For me, they only seem to fail after lighting strikes.
-RickG

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> You replace all of the power supplies right off the bat?  OR only when they
> break.
>
> I understand about the lightning.  But it's funny how often the new tranzeo
> units go out while everything else just keeps running.
>
> Thanks,
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE radios
>
>
> > Marlon,
> >
> > I LOVE my Tranzeo radios. Before using them, I all but gave up on 802.11.
> > In
> > an effort to assist, I dont have the disconnect issues you mention.  I've
> > got StarOS on WRAP boards for AP's.
> > I dont have any power supply issues either except from the expected
> > lightning. I use 15 volt units from Prime Electronics which I get for
> > $2.99!
> > --->
> >
> http://www.primelec.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/2452565/vpcsid/0/SFV/31734
> >
> > I hope someone can help with your issues. -RickG
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I really like my Tranzeo CPQ radios.  But we're seeing a LOT of power
> >> supply
> >> failures (and they are too cheap to even warranty, we just buy new
> ones).
> >> Sometimes they don't fully fail either, they go low or something, the
> >> injector lights up like it should but the radio just won't work right.
> >>
> >> What's really a problem is the dang'd Mikrotik to Tranzeo CPQ disconnect
> >> problem.  It's driving my gamers and business customers nutso.  All CPQ
> >> radios disconnect and reconnect at the same time, sometimes every few
> >> minutes, sometimes every couple of days.
> >>
> >> This happens when there is an XR2 card in the Mikrotik.  Doesn't seem to
> >> matter what firmware is on the radios.
> >>
> >> Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's?  They are too complicated
> >> to
> >> set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great
> >> information on who's doing what on my network.  And I am a point and
> >> click
> >> GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with.  And I've
> >> recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can see
> >> as
> >> far as the customer experience is concerned.  I don't think we're
> getting
> >> the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management mechanism for
> >> Star so I'm not totally sure.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I tried a couple of the Ubiquity cpe units.  I liked the
> >> electronic
> >> polarization capability.  Hated the router config.  And, they have both
> >> basically failed in just a few months of service.  They were still
> >> working,
> >> but the rx went to pot in them.  (19 dB tranzeo had -82 when put in vs.
> >> the -97 of the ubiquity when it was pulled out)  So, now I have a
> >> telecommuter with a Ubiquity radio that's on the fritz, can't use a
> >> tranzeo
> >> because of the disconnect issue (she works via voip and can't use the
> >> phone
> >> when it keeps dropping out for a second or two all day long).
> >>
> >> What are people having good luck with?
> >>
> >> I can't believe that wifi radios won't really connect to each other
> >> correctly at this stage of the game.  Some of our manufacturers are
> >> getting
> >> too lazy I think.  I need cheap gear, but mostly I need gear that works.
> >>
> >> I long for the old Teletronics 2 meg ap's.  Some of those from 2000 are
> >> still in use today!  We never have to touch them!
> >>
> >> I think I'm gonna set up an MT unit to be a cpe for the one customer.
> >> But
> >> I
> >> have to figure out what to use going forward.  Either better ap's or
> cpe.
> >>
> >> For AP's I REALLY like the Teletronics 172 units.  They are cheap and
> >> work
> >> very well with either b or g client radios.  But they blow ethernet
> ports
> >> far too easily, and they lock up too often.  And I've NEVER used a

Re: [WISPA] CPE radios

2008-08-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
You replace all of the power supplies right off the bat?  OR only when they 
break.

I understand about the lightning.  But it's funny how often the new tranzeo 
units go out while everything else just keeps running.

Thanks,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE radios


> Marlon,
>
> I LOVE my Tranzeo radios. Before using them, I all but gave up on 802.11. 
> In
> an effort to assist, I dont have the disconnect issues you mention.  I've
> got StarOS on WRAP boards for AP's.
> I dont have any power supply issues either except from the expected
> lightning. I use 15 volt units from Prime Electronics which I get for 
> $2.99!
> --->
> http://www.primelec.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/2452565/vpcsid/0/SFV/31734
>
> I hope someone can help with your issues. -RickG
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I really like my Tranzeo CPQ radios.  But we're seeing a LOT of power
>> supply
>> failures (and they are too cheap to even warranty, we just buy new ones).
>> Sometimes they don't fully fail either, they go low or something, the
>> injector lights up like it should but the radio just won't work right.
>>
>> What's really a problem is the dang'd Mikrotik to Tranzeo CPQ disconnect
>> problem.  It's driving my gamers and business customers nutso.  All CPQ
>> radios disconnect and reconnect at the same time, sometimes every few
>> minutes, sometimes every couple of days.
>>
>> This happens when there is an XR2 card in the Mikrotik.  Doesn't seem to
>> matter what firmware is on the radios.
>>
>> Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's?  They are too complicated 
>> to
>> set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great
>> information on who's doing what on my network.  And I am a point and 
>> click
>> GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with.  And I've
>> recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can see 
>> as
>> far as the customer experience is concerned.  I don't think we're getting
>> the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management mechanism for
>> Star so I'm not totally sure.
>>
>> Anyway, I tried a couple of the Ubiquity cpe units.  I liked the 
>> electronic
>> polarization capability.  Hated the router config.  And, they have both
>> basically failed in just a few months of service.  They were still 
>> working,
>> but the rx went to pot in them.  (19 dB tranzeo had -82 when put in vs.
>> the -97 of the ubiquity when it was pulled out)  So, now I have a
>> telecommuter with a Ubiquity radio that's on the fritz, can't use a 
>> tranzeo
>> because of the disconnect issue (she works via voip and can't use the 
>> phone
>> when it keeps dropping out for a second or two all day long).
>>
>> What are people having good luck with?
>>
>> I can't believe that wifi radios won't really connect to each other
>> correctly at this stage of the game.  Some of our manufacturers are 
>> getting
>> too lazy I think.  I need cheap gear, but mostly I need gear that works.
>>
>> I long for the old Teletronics 2 meg ap's.  Some of those from 2000 are
>> still in use today!  We never have to touch them!
>>
>> I think I'm gonna set up an MT unit to be a cpe for the one customer. 
>> But
>> I
>> have to figure out what to use going forward.  Either better ap's or cpe.
>>
>> For AP's I REALLY like the Teletronics 172 units.  They are cheap and 
>> work
>> very well with either b or g client radios.  But they blow ethernet ports
>> far too easily, and they lock up too often.  And I've NEVER used a worse 
>> AP
>> than the Tranzeo 6000 radios.  What a POS those are.  Constant lockups!
>>  But
>> not at all locations.  Sometimes they work pretty well, but usually they
>> just suck.
>>
>> deep sigh
>>
>> Suggestions?
>> marlon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] CPE radios

2008-08-20 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Power supply failures? Not seeing those. My biggest problem with the CPQ
line is that 90% of the time when they are not working are they need
power-cycled. They actually need power cycled more than I think they should.
I remember the old CPE-200 days and you never had to power cycle them EVER!
I've only used the 6000 series once for an AP and that was enough of that.
You can't tell whats going on with a client near as much as with a Star or
Mikrotik AP. I've used STAR and MT for AP's and to be honest there really is
no difference to the customer and the reliability of both are pretty much
set them and forget them. It really came down to personal preference for me.
I started to lean more towards the Mikrotik because there were a LOT more
choices for SBC's to use. 


Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] CPE radios

Hi All,

I really like my Tranzeo CPQ radios.  But we're seeing a LOT of power supply

failures (and they are too cheap to even warranty, we just buy new ones). 
Sometimes they don't fully fail either, they go low or something, the 
injector lights up like it should but the radio just won't work right.

What's really a problem is the dang'd Mikrotik to Tranzeo CPQ disconnect 
problem.  It's driving my gamers and business customers nutso.  All CPQ 
radios disconnect and reconnect at the same time, sometimes every few 
minutes, sometimes every couple of days.

This happens when there is an XR2 card in the Mikrotik.  Doesn't seem to 
matter what firmware is on the radios.

Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's?  They are too complicated to 
set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great 
information on who's doing what on my network.  And I am a point and click 
GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with.  And I've 
recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can see as 
far as the customer experience is concerned.  I don't think we're getting 
the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management mechanism for 
Star so I'm not totally sure.

Anyway, I tried a couple of the Ubiquity cpe units.  I liked the electronic 
polarization capability.  Hated the router config.  And, they have both 
basically failed in just a few months of service.  They were still working, 
but the rx went to pot in them.  (19 dB tranzeo had -82 when put in vs. 
the -97 of the ubiquity when it was pulled out)  So, now I have a 
telecommuter with a Ubiquity radio that's on the fritz, can't use a tranzeo 
because of the disconnect issue (she works via voip and can't use the phone 
when it keeps dropping out for a second or two all day long).

What are people having good luck with?

I can't believe that wifi radios won't really connect to each other 
correctly at this stage of the game.  Some of our manufacturers are getting 
too lazy I think.  I need cheap gear, but mostly I need gear that works.

I long for the old Teletronics 2 meg ap's.  Some of those from 2000 are 
still in use today!  We never have to touch them!

I think I'm gonna set up an MT unit to be a cpe for the one customer.  But I

have to figure out what to use going forward.  Either better ap's or cpe.

For AP's I REALLY like the Teletronics 172 units.  They are cheap and work 
very well with either b or g client radios.  But they blow ethernet ports 
far too easily, and they lock up too often.  And I've NEVER used a worse AP 
than the Tranzeo 6000 radios.  What a POS those are.  Constant lockups!  But

not at all locations.  Sometimes they work pretty well, but usually they 
just suck.

deep sigh

Suggestions?
marlon







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Re: [WISPA] CPE radios

2008-08-20 Thread Mike Hammett
I use all MT and knock on wood, I hardly have non-mother nature related 
issues.


--
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- Original Message - 
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:36 AM
Subject: [WISPA] CPE radios


> Hi All,
>
> I really like my Tranzeo CPQ radios.  But we're seeing a LOT of power 
> supply
> failures (and they are too cheap to even warranty, we just buy new ones).
> Sometimes they don't fully fail either, they go low or something, the
> injector lights up like it should but the radio just won't work right.
>
> What's really a problem is the dang'd Mikrotik to Tranzeo CPQ disconnect
> problem.  It's driving my gamers and business customers nutso.  All CPQ
> radios disconnect and reconnect at the same time, sometimes every few
> minutes, sometimes every couple of days.
>
> This happens when there is an XR2 card in the Mikrotik.  Doesn't seem to
> matter what firmware is on the radios.
>
> Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's?  They are too complicated 
> to
> set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great
> information on who's doing what on my network.  And I am a point and click
> GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with.  And I've
> recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can see as
> far as the customer experience is concerned.  I don't think we're getting
> the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management mechanism for
> Star so I'm not totally sure.
>
> Anyway, I tried a couple of the Ubiquity cpe units.  I liked the 
> electronic
> polarization capability.  Hated the router config.  And, they have both
> basically failed in just a few months of service.  They were still 
> working,
> but the rx went to pot in them.  (19 dB tranzeo had -82 when put in vs.
> the -97 of the ubiquity when it was pulled out)  So, now I have a
> telecommuter with a Ubiquity radio that's on the fritz, can't use a 
> tranzeo
> because of the disconnect issue (she works via voip and can't use the 
> phone
> when it keeps dropping out for a second or two all day long).
>
> What are people having good luck with?
>
> I can't believe that wifi radios won't really connect to each other
> correctly at this stage of the game.  Some of our manufacturers are 
> getting
> too lazy I think.  I need cheap gear, but mostly I need gear that works.
>
> I long for the old Teletronics 2 meg ap's.  Some of those from 2000 are
> still in use today!  We never have to touch them!
>
> I think I'm gonna set up an MT unit to be a cpe for the one customer.  But 
> I
> have to figure out what to use going forward.  Either better ap's or cpe.
>
> For AP's I REALLY like the Teletronics 172 units.  They are cheap and work
> very well with either b or g client radios.  But they blow ethernet ports
> far too easily, and they lock up too often.  And I've NEVER used a worse 
> AP
> than the Tranzeo 6000 radios.  What a POS those are.  Constant lockups! 
> But
> not at all locations.  Sometimes they work pretty well, but usually they
> just suck.
>
> deep sigh
>
> Suggestions?
> marlon
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] CPE radios

2008-08-20 Thread Mark Nash
This is what we do too.  It works very well.

Mark Nash
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- Original Message - 
From: "John Valenti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE radios


> Marlon,
>
> My best experiences have been with StarOS clients connecting to
> StarOS APs. Regarding disconnects, I don't see that much.  I like to
> program the client radio's ping watchdog to hit the AP every 10
> seconds. Then when I'm in the association page on the AP, all the
> clients will have less than 10 seconds since they have passed
> traffic.  Any clients that have a minute+ in the far right column get
> some attention to figure out what is happening.
>
>
> On August 20, at 11:36 AM August 20, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>
> >  Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's?  They are too
> > complicated to
> > set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great
> > information on who's doing what on my network.  And I am a point
> > and click
> > GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with.  And I've
> > recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can
> > see as
> > far as the customer experience is concerned.  I don't think we're
> > getting
> > the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management
> > mechanism for
> > Star so I'm not totally sure.  
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] CPE radios

2008-08-20 Thread John Valenti
Marlon,

My best experiences have been with StarOS clients connecting to  
StarOS APs. Regarding disconnects, I don't see that much.  I like to  
program the client radio's ping watchdog to hit the AP every 10  
seconds. Then when I'm in the association page on the AP, all the  
clients will have less than 10 seconds since they have passed  
traffic.  Any clients that have a minute+ in the far right column get  
some attention to figure out what is happening.


On August 20, at 11:36 AM August 20, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

>  Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's?  They are too  
> complicated to
> set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great
> information on who's doing what on my network.  And I am a point  
> and click
> GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with.  And I've
> recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can  
> see as
> far as the customer experience is concerned.  I don't think we're  
> getting
> the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management  
> mechanism for
> Star so I'm not totally sure.  




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Re: [WISPA] CPE radios

2008-08-20 Thread RickG
Marlon,

I LOVE my Tranzeo radios. Before using them, I all but gave up on 802.11. In
an effort to assist, I dont have the disconnect issues you mention.  I've
got StarOS on WRAP boards for AP's.
I dont have any power supply issues either except from the expected
lightning. I use 15 volt units from Prime Electronics which I get for $2.99!
--->
http://www.primelec.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/2452565/vpcsid/0/SFV/31734

I hope someone can help with your issues. -RickG

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I really like my Tranzeo CPQ radios.  But we're seeing a LOT of power
> supply
> failures (and they are too cheap to even warranty, we just buy new ones).
> Sometimes they don't fully fail either, they go low or something, the
> injector lights up like it should but the radio just won't work right.
>
> What's really a problem is the dang'd Mikrotik to Tranzeo CPQ disconnect
> problem.  It's driving my gamers and business customers nutso.  All CPQ
> radios disconnect and reconnect at the same time, sometimes every few
> minutes, sometimes every couple of days.
>
> This happens when there is an XR2 card in the Mikrotik.  Doesn't seem to
> matter what firmware is on the radios.
>
> Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's?  They are too complicated to
> set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great
> information on who's doing what on my network.  And I am a point and click
> GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with.  And I've
> recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can see as
> far as the customer experience is concerned.  I don't think we're getting
> the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management mechanism for
> Star so I'm not totally sure.
>
> Anyway, I tried a couple of the Ubiquity cpe units.  I liked the electronic
> polarization capability.  Hated the router config.  And, they have both
> basically failed in just a few months of service.  They were still working,
> but the rx went to pot in them.  (19 dB tranzeo had -82 when put in vs.
> the -97 of the ubiquity when it was pulled out)  So, now I have a
> telecommuter with a Ubiquity radio that's on the fritz, can't use a tranzeo
> because of the disconnect issue (she works via voip and can't use the phone
> when it keeps dropping out for a second or two all day long).
>
> What are people having good luck with?
>
> I can't believe that wifi radios won't really connect to each other
> correctly at this stage of the game.  Some of our manufacturers are getting
> too lazy I think.  I need cheap gear, but mostly I need gear that works.
>
> I long for the old Teletronics 2 meg ap's.  Some of those from 2000 are
> still in use today!  We never have to touch them!
>
> I think I'm gonna set up an MT unit to be a cpe for the one customer.  But
> I
> have to figure out what to use going forward.  Either better ap's or cpe.
>
> For AP's I REALLY like the Teletronics 172 units.  They are cheap and work
> very well with either b or g client radios.  But they blow ethernet ports
> far too easily, and they lock up too often.  And I've NEVER used a worse AP
> than the Tranzeo 6000 radios.  What a POS those are.  Constant lockups!
>  But
> not at all locations.  Sometimes they work pretty well, but usually they
> just suck.
>
> deep sigh
>
> Suggestions?
> marlon
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] CPE radios

2008-08-20 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Star cpes

Chuck Profito
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CV-ACCESS, INC
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Providing High Speed Broadband 
to Rural Central California
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:37 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] CPE radios

Hi All,

I really like my Tranzeo CPQ radios.  But we're seeing a LOT of power supply

failures (and they are too cheap to even warranty, we just buy new ones). 
Sometimes they don't fully fail either, they go low or something, the 
injector lights up like it should but the radio just won't work right.

What's really a problem is the dang'd Mikrotik to Tranzeo CPQ disconnect 
problem.  It's driving my gamers and business customers nutso.  All CPQ 
radios disconnect and reconnect at the same time, sometimes every few 
minutes, sometimes every couple of days.

This happens when there is an XR2 card in the Mikrotik.  Doesn't seem to 
matter what firmware is on the radios.

Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's?  They are too complicated to 
set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great 
information on who's doing what on my network.  And I am a point and click 
GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with.  And I've 
recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can see as 
far as the customer experience is concerned.  I don't think we're getting 
the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management mechanism for 
Star so I'm not totally sure.

Anyway, I tried a couple of the Ubiquity cpe units.  I liked the electronic 
polarization capability.  Hated the router config.  And, they have both 
basically failed in just a few months of service.  They were still working, 
but the rx went to pot in them.  (19 dB tranzeo had -82 when put in vs. 
the -97 of the ubiquity when it was pulled out)  So, now I have a 
telecommuter with a Ubiquity radio that's on the fritz, can't use a tranzeo 
because of the disconnect issue (she works via voip and can't use the phone 
when it keeps dropping out for a second or two all day long).

What are people having good luck with?

I can't believe that wifi radios won't really connect to each other 
correctly at this stage of the game.  Some of our manufacturers are getting 
too lazy I think.  I need cheap gear, but mostly I need gear that works.

I long for the old Teletronics 2 meg ap's.  Some of those from 2000 are 
still in use today!  We never have to touch them!

I think I'm gonna set up an MT unit to be a cpe for the one customer.  But I

have to figure out what to use going forward.  Either better ap's or cpe.

For AP's I REALLY like the Teletronics 172 units.  They are cheap and work 
very well with either b or g client radios.  But they blow ethernet ports 
far too easily, and they lock up too often.  And I've NEVER used a worse AP 
than the Tranzeo 6000 radios.  What a POS those are.  Constant lockups!  But

not at all locations.  Sometimes they work pretty well, but usually they 
just suck.

deep sigh

Suggestions?
marlon







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[WISPA] CPE radios

2008-08-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi All,

I really like my Tranzeo CPQ radios.  But we're seeing a LOT of power supply 
failures (and they are too cheap to even warranty, we just buy new ones). 
Sometimes they don't fully fail either, they go low or something, the 
injector lights up like it should but the radio just won't work right.

What's really a problem is the dang'd Mikrotik to Tranzeo CPQ disconnect 
problem.  It's driving my gamers and business customers nutso.  All CPQ 
radios disconnect and reconnect at the same time, sometimes every few 
minutes, sometimes every couple of days.

This happens when there is an XR2 card in the Mikrotik.  Doesn't seem to 
matter what firmware is on the radios.

Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's?  They are too complicated to 
set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great 
information on who's doing what on my network.  And I am a point and click 
GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with.  And I've 
recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can see as 
far as the customer experience is concerned.  I don't think we're getting 
the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management mechanism for 
Star so I'm not totally sure.

Anyway, I tried a couple of the Ubiquity cpe units.  I liked the electronic 
polarization capability.  Hated the router config.  And, they have both 
basically failed in just a few months of service.  They were still working, 
but the rx went to pot in them.  (19 dB tranzeo had -82 when put in vs. 
the -97 of the ubiquity when it was pulled out)  So, now I have a 
telecommuter with a Ubiquity radio that's on the fritz, can't use a tranzeo 
because of the disconnect issue (she works via voip and can't use the phone 
when it keeps dropping out for a second or two all day long).

What are people having good luck with?

I can't believe that wifi radios won't really connect to each other 
correctly at this stage of the game.  Some of our manufacturers are getting 
too lazy I think.  I need cheap gear, but mostly I need gear that works.

I long for the old Teletronics 2 meg ap's.  Some of those from 2000 are 
still in use today!  We never have to touch them!

I think I'm gonna set up an MT unit to be a cpe for the one customer.  But I 
have to figure out what to use going forward.  Either better ap's or cpe.

For AP's I REALLY like the Teletronics 172 units.  They are cheap and work 
very well with either b or g client radios.  But they blow ethernet ports 
far too easily, and they lock up too often.  And I've NEVER used a worse AP 
than the Tranzeo 6000 radios.  What a POS those are.  Constant lockups!  But 
not at all locations.  Sometimes they work pretty well, but usually they 
just suck.

deep sigh

Suggestions?
marlon






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