Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars
I can drive to downtown Chicago in under an hour on a good day and Verizon EVDO isn't available here... -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bryan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars On Jun 26, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Drew Lentz wrote: #3. With linking the cars directly to the cellular telephone links, what effect WILL this have on WISPs? What happens when Verizon rolls- out the in your car and in your home package that rolls the EV-DO card into your monthly bill and you now don't have a need for a pipe at your home? A few answers. 1) Not everyone will move to Verizon (no iPhone ;) ), and EV-DO isn't everywhere. Many of us support rural areas where Verizon still doesn't exist (although with this Alltel acquisition pending, they'll be closer). 2) Many of our subscribers like to keep the money local (I hear that a lot). That's one reason they're our customers in the first place, and a good reason for them to stay if we provide service superior to that of the cell companies. 3) Gas costs too much for people to keep the car running to keep the hotspot up. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars
It's not just Verizon though. AutoNet has agreements in place with both Verizon and Sprint. Now with the Verizon acquisition of Alltel and the announcement of EV-DO availability on their network, it makes it even stronger. Furthernore, while this is primarily EV-DO for broadband, there is still support for their 1xRTT service, which has a larger national footprint than the EV-DO area. At $29 a month though, it seems like a fancy accessory vs. something that everyone would subscribe to. The price point is a little high, especially when you factor in how more Americans are spending LESS time in their vehicles than ever.. -drew On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I can drive to downtown Chicago in under an hour on a good day and Verizon EVDO isn't available here... -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bryan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars On Jun 26, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Drew Lentz wrote: #3. With linking the cars directly to the cellular telephone links, what effect WILL this have on WISPs? What happens when Verizon rolls- out the in your car and in your home package that rolls the EV-DO card into your monthly bill and you now don't have a need for a pipe at your home? A few answers. 1) Not everyone will move to Verizon (no iPhone ;) ), and EV-DO isn't everywhere. Many of us support rural areas where Verizon still doesn't exist (although with this Alltel acquisition pending, they'll be closer). 2) Many of our subscribers like to keep the money local (I hear that a lot). That's one reason they're our customers in the first place, and a good reason for them to stay if we provide service superior to that of the cell companies. 3) Gas costs too much for people to keep the car running to keep the hotspot up. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars
In your opinion, does this solution leave room for WISPs to sell these customers services? http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D91H88101.htm *** People who buy Chrysler LLC vehicles next year will have the option of turning their cars and trucks into wireless Internet hotspots. The company plans to announce Thursday that the feature will be available as part of its uconnect system that will debut in most 2009 Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep models. The wireless Internet will come as a dealer-installed option and will work over cellular telephone links. It will come with a monthly fee which has not yet been determined, spokesman Todd Goyer said. Goyer said people will be able to use laptop computers in their cars and trucks just as if they were in an office or home. To access the Internet, vehicles will need to have uconnect hardware, which Chrysler will unveil to compete with Ford's Sync and other in-car electronic systems. The uconnect system will link cellular telephones and personal music players to the car's onboard electronics, with the ability to control an Apple iPod with radio and steering wheel controls. The system also has navigation and real-time traffic features, controlled by voice recognition or a touch screen. It also includes the company's in-car 30-gigabyte hard drive, with options for three-channel satellite television service and satellite radio. Goyer said the wireless system will work while vehicles are moving so they can be used by passengers. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars
My questions... #1. Noise floor anyone? 20 cars at an intersection all blaring 2.4 @ 20dBm or so? Metro Wi-Fi, ouch... #2. Why cut off the guy in front of you when you can disable his cars main computer with a handy gumstick type pc designed specifically to break into a cars networks? :) #3. With linking the cars directly to the cellular telephone links, what effect WILL this have on WISPs? What happens when Verizon rolls- out the in your car and in your home package that rolls the EV-DO card into your monthly bill and you now don't have a need for a pipe at your home? On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:51 AM, Rogelio wrote: In your opinion, does this solution leave room for WISPs to sell these customers services? http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D91H88101.htm *** People who buy Chrysler LLC vehicles next year will have the option of turning their cars and trucks into wireless Internet hotspots. The company plans to announce Thursday that the feature will be available as part of its uconnect system that will debut in most 2009 Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep models. The wireless Internet will come as a dealer-installed option and will work over cellular telephone links. It will come with a monthly fee which has not yet been determined, spokesman Todd Goyer said. Goyer said people will be able to use laptop computers in their cars and trucks just as if they were in an office or home. To access the Internet, vehicles will need to have uconnect hardware, which Chrysler will unveil to compete with Ford's Sync and other in-car electronic systems. The uconnect system will link cellular telephones and personal music players to the car's onboard electronics, with the ability to control an Apple iPod with radio and steering wheel controls. The system also has navigation and real-time traffic features, controlled by voice recognition or a touch screen. It also includes the company's in-car 30-gigabyte hard drive, with options for three-channel satellite television service and satellite radio. Goyer said the wireless system will work while vehicles are moving so they can be used by passengers. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars
More info from today's press release: Mopar(R) Launches Industry-First -- uconnect web(TM) Brings Wireless Internet Connectivity to Chrysler, Jeep(R) and Dodge Consumers - uconnect web(TM), Chrysler LLC's in-vehicle wireless Internet connectivity system, transforms a Chrysler, Jeep(R) or Dodge vehicle into a mobile WiFi hot spot, - Secure and reliable high-speed Internet connectivity enhances the customer experience by By Mopar(R) AUBURN HILLS, MICH., JUNE 26 --Mopar(R) announced today that it will launch uconnect web(TM), Chrysler LLC's in-vehicle wireless Internet connectivity for Chrysler, Jeep(R) and Dodge consumers in the U.S. uconnect web, powered by Autonet Mobile, delivers continuous Internet connectivity to all vehicle passengers for entertainment and real-time information access on the go. uconnect web will be available in August as a dealer-installed Mopar Accessory. Mopar is Chrysler LLC's original equipment parts manufacturer and distributor. The industry-first technology provides high-speed data transfer, combining WiFi and 3G connectivity. uconnect web transforms the vehicle into a mobile hot spot, delivering unlimited, reliable and uninterrupted Internet connectivity for all passengers in and around the vehicle. The hot spot connection radius is approximately 100 feet -- making it convenient to access the Internet at a soccer field or family picnic. Wherever cellular service is available, uconnect web enables all vehicle passengers to simultaneously connect with WiFi-enabled devices like a laptop, iPhone, Sony Playstation (PSP), PDA and more to: -- access the Internet for e-mail, chat and IM -- view streaming movies or television shows -- download music and download/upload images -- play online games Mopar's uconnect web brings a new level of convenience and technology to our Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge vehicles, said Rob Richard, Director - Mopar Part Sales and Service Marketing, Chrysler LLC. With uconnect web, all passengers in or near the vehicle are continuously connected to the Internet. They can make dinner reservations, check directions or weather, make online purchases, surf Facebook, MySpace, Disney or Webkinz, watch the latest YouTube videos, upload photos to a Flickr account -- all at the same time. uconnect web goes beyond today's DVD and GPS solutions, letting passengers extend their Internet lifestyle to the car, said Sterling Pratz, CEO of San Francisco-based Autonet Mobile. The Internet is the future of in-car entertainment. We're delighted to be working with Chrysler LLC to deliver the first WiFi Internet access that lets families, business and leisure travelers stay connected. The U.S. Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the router module is $449. Dealer installation is estimated at approximately $35-50. Autonet Mobile offers wireless Internet account service at $29 a month, available in 12-, 24- and 36-month service plans. There is a one-time $35 service activation fee. Customer support assistance for hardware and service is available. Run over integrated 3G and 2.5G (EVDO, 1xRTT) cellular data networks, the router module with antenna hard-mounts in any vehicle. High-speed Internet access ranges from 400-800 Kbps/sec., with upload speeds averaging 400 Kbps/sec. The WiFi connection is secured with WEP encryption, MAC address restriction or WAN port restriction. Compatible with all operating systems supporting WiFi including Windows, Mac, Linux and Solaris, no special software is required. About Autonet Mobile Autonet Mobile is the first wireless Internet service provider for vehicles. Founded by a corporate executive and former race car driver and a leading network architect and designer, the company is dedicated to enhancing the in-car experience, by bringing the power of the Internet to the 200+ million cars on the road in the U.S. Autonet Mobile currently provides Avis Rent a Car with the Avis Connect service and is used by Storm Chasers, NASCAR and others. For more information about Autonet Mobile visit www.autonetmobile.com. 70 Years of Mopar When Chrysler bought Dodge in 1928, the need for a dedicated parts manufacturer, supplier and distribution system to support the growing enterprise led to the formation of the Chrysler Motor Parts Corporation (CMPC) in 1929. Originally used in the 1920s, Mopar (a simple contraction of the words MOtor and PARts) was trademarked for a line of antifreeze products in 1937. It was also widely used as a moniker for the CMPC. The Mopar brand made its mark in the 1960s -- the muscle car era. The Chrysler Corporation built race-ready Dodge and Plymouth package cars equipped with special high-performance parts. Mopar carried a line of Special Parts for super stock drag racers and developed its racing parts division called Mopar Performance Parts to enhance speed and handling
Re: [WISPA] Chrysler to make wifi hotspot cars
On Jun 26, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Drew Lentz wrote: #3. With linking the cars directly to the cellular telephone links, what effect WILL this have on WISPs? What happens when Verizon rolls- out the in your car and in your home package that rolls the EV-DO card into your monthly bill and you now don't have a need for a pipe at your home? A few answers. 1) Not everyone will move to Verizon (no iPhone ;) ), and EV-DO isn't everywhere. Many of us support rural areas where Verizon still doesn't exist (although with this Alltel acquisition pending, they'll be closer). 2) Many of our subscribers like to keep the money local (I hear that a lot). That's one reason they're our customers in the first place, and a good reason for them to stay if we provide service superior to that of the cell companies. 3) Gas costs too much for people to keep the car running to keep the hotspot up. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
