RE: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 -- Washington, DC.

2007-05-01 Thread Charles Wu
There is a distinction - The Community Wireless Summit is non-profit. 

Maybe it's me, but the Community Wireless Summit seems to be as
non-profit as Part-15.org

CUWiN owns and runs the non-profit (or not-profitable?) Community
Wireless Summit
Summit home page: (www.wirelesssummit.org redirects to
http://www.cuwin.net/summit)

What does CUWiN do: http://www.cuwin.net/about
1. Software Development
2. Wireless Consulting
3. Community Education Programming

From http://www.cuwin.net/consulting#rates
Our standard consulting rate is $120 per hour plus expenses.

WiNOG is for-profit. Does or should this make a difference?

Perhaps my problem is honesty...I do not hide the fact that I am working
to make a decent living for my family by delivering a product / service
that provides value to customers while earning me a fair profit for my
efforts / entreprenuerism.

That said, I understand and respect WISPA's need to charge for
advertising, and I play by the rules AND HAVE PAID my vendor member dues
for 2007.

Perhaps it would be smarter for me to sneak behind a .org
domain...that's just not me

-Charles

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NOW: Posting Announcements On-List WAS: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 -- Washington, DC.

2007-05-01 Thread Jack Unger

Charles,

Maybe, but this is probably not the best place to discuss who is allowed 
to post announcements. It might be better if you just email the WISPA 
Board with your concerns and ask for clarification. As a vendor myself, 
I would also appreciate additional clarification.


There has been a lot of contention on-list lately and it just seems a 
wise thing would be to avoid another contentious discussion on an issue 
that really only applies directly to a few folks.


Hopefully, the Board will then publish a summary or a reminder here to 
provide guidance for the rest of us.


Best Regards,
  jack


Charles Wu wrote:
There is a distinction - The Community Wireless Summit is non-profit. 


Maybe it's me, but the Community Wireless Summit seems to be as
non-profit as Part-15.org

CUWiN owns and runs the non-profit (or not-profitable?) Community
Wireless Summit
Summit home page: (www.wirelesssummit.org redirects to
http://www.cuwin.net/summit)

What does CUWiN do: http://www.cuwin.net/about
1. Software Development
2. Wireless Consulting
3. Community Education Programming


From http://www.cuwin.net/consulting#rates

Our standard consulting rate is $120 per hour plus expenses.


WiNOG is for-profit. Does or should this make a difference?


Perhaps my problem is honesty...I do not hide the fact that I am working
to make a decent living for my family by delivering a product / service
that provides value to customers while earning me a fair profit for my
efforts / entreprenuerism.

That said, I understand and respect WISPA's need to charge for
advertising, and I play by the rules AND HAVE PAID my vendor member dues
for 2007.

Perhaps it would be smarter for me to sneak behind a .org
domain...that's just not me

-Charles

P.S. If it makes you feel better, you CAN go to www.winog.org 



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RE: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 -- Washington, DC.

2007-04-28 Thread Charles Wu
Out of curiosity...does this mean I can just email blast the list with
events that I organize?

-Charles 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sascha Meinrath
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 12:30 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 --
Washington, DC.

FYI:

Contact:
Sascha Meinrath
Executive Director
CUWiN Foundation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
217-278-3933 x31

INTERNATIONAL SUMMIT TO ADDRESS FUTURE OF BROADBAND
-- Community Technology Leaders from Six Continents to Participate --

Champaign-Urbana, I.L., April 18 -- The CUWiN Foundation and the Center
for Community Informatics (CCI) will host the International Summit for
Community Wireless Networks (http://WirelessSummit.org) from May 18-20,
2007 at Loyola College in Columbia, Maryland.

The summit is the largest gathering of wireless network developers,
technology and policy experts, and community organizers working to build
universal, low-cost broadband networks around the world. We are proud
to host an event that brings together technologists and activists
committed to universal access to informatics, said Marco Figueiredo,
CCI Director.

The International Summit for Community Wireless Networks explores the
opportunities and challenges facing the growing movement to build
community and municipal broadband networks, said Sascha Meinrath,
co-founder and Executive Director of CUWiN. This event showcases
cutting-edge technologies and develops political strategies to increase
digital inclusion.

Since the first National Summit for Community Wireless Networks in 2004,
over 300 Community Internet and municipal broadband projects have sprung
up in the United States alone. The Summit will focus on how these
networks can better serve their target populations, the policies needed
to support broader deployment of community wireless systems, and the
latest technological and software innovations.

Presenters at previous summits have included FCC Commissioner Jonathan
Adelstein, Jim Baller of the Baller Herbst Law Group, Annie Collins of
Fiber for Our Future, Mark Cooper of the Consumer Federation of America,
Harold Feld of Media Access Project, Robert W. McChesney of Free Press,
Matt Rantanen of Tribal Digital Village, Greg Richardson of Civitium
LLC, Paul Smith of the Center for Neighborhood Technologies, Jim Snider
of the New America Foundation, Dana Spiegel of NYCwireless, Esme Vos of
Muniwireless.com and many other luminaries.

High-speed broadband access is the electricity of the 21st century, yet
many rural and poorer urban communities are being left off the grid,
said Ben Scott, policy director of Free Press, the DC-based policy
think-tank. The innovators and organizers at the International Summit
for Community Wireless Networks are blazing the trail to make broadband
affordable and available to everyone.

About CUWiN (http://www.cuwin.net)
The CUWiN Foundation is a world-renowned coalition of wireless
developers and community volunteers committed to providing low-cost,
do-it-yourself, community-controlled alternatives to contemporary
broadband models. CUWiN is fiscally sponsored by Grassroots.org, a
non-profit 501c3.  CUWiN's mission is to develop decentralized,
community-owned networks that foster democratic cultures and local
content. Through advocacy and through our commitment to open source
technology, CUWiN supports organic networks that grow to meet the needs
of their communities.

About CCI (http://cci.cs.loyola.edu)
The Center for Community Informatics engages Loyola College's students,
faculty and staff in supporting the creation and deployment of
informatics tools for community empowerment.  CCI develops the Community
Telecenter Free Software Toolset; promotes awareness events for the
Loyola College community; offer courses in Community Informatics;
promotes Digital Inclusion Conferences; researches and develops
human-friendly technologies to facilitate inclusion in the New Society
of Knowledge; and, evaluates, documents and develops sustainable models
for Universal Access to Informatics.

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Re: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 -- Washington, DC.

2007-04-28 Thread Dawn DiPietro

Charles,

How did I know you would make this an issue? ;-)

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Charles Wu wrote:

Out of curiosity...does this mean I can just email blast the list with
events that I organize?

-Charles 



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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sascha Meinrath
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 12:30 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 --
Washington, DC.

FYI:

Contact:
Sascha Meinrath
Executive Director
CUWiN Foundation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
217-278-3933 x31

INTERNATIONAL SUMMIT TO ADDRESS FUTURE OF BROADBAND
-- Community Technology Leaders from Six Continents to Participate --

Champaign-Urbana, I.L., April 18 -- The CUWiN Foundation and the Center
for Community Informatics (CCI) will host the International Summit for
Community Wireless Networks (http://WirelessSummit.org) from May 18-20,
2007 at Loyola College in Columbia, Maryland.

The summit is the largest gathering of wireless network developers,
technology and policy experts, and community organizers working to build
universal, low-cost broadband networks around the world. We are proud
to host an event that brings together technologists and activists
committed to universal access to informatics, said Marco Figueiredo,
CCI Director.

The International Summit for Community Wireless Networks explores the
opportunities and challenges facing the growing movement to build
community and municipal broadband networks, said Sascha Meinrath,
co-founder and Executive Director of CUWiN. This event showcases
cutting-edge technologies and develops political strategies to increase
digital inclusion.

Since the first National Summit for Community Wireless Networks in 2004,
over 300 Community Internet and municipal broadband projects have sprung
up in the United States alone. The Summit will focus on how these
networks can better serve their target populations, the policies needed
to support broader deployment of community wireless systems, and the
latest technological and software innovations.

Presenters at previous summits have included FCC Commissioner Jonathan
Adelstein, Jim Baller of the Baller Herbst Law Group, Annie Collins of
Fiber for Our Future, Mark Cooper of the Consumer Federation of America,
Harold Feld of Media Access Project, Robert W. McChesney of Free Press,
Matt Rantanen of Tribal Digital Village, Greg Richardson of Civitium
LLC, Paul Smith of the Center for Neighborhood Technologies, Jim Snider
of the New America Foundation, Dana Spiegel of NYCwireless, Esme Vos of
Muniwireless.com and many other luminaries.

High-speed broadband access is the electricity of the 21st century, yet
many rural and poorer urban communities are being left off the grid,
said Ben Scott, policy director of Free Press, the DC-based policy
think-tank. The innovators and organizers at the International Summit
for Community Wireless Networks are blazing the trail to make broadband
affordable and available to everyone.

About CUWiN (http://www.cuwin.net)
The CUWiN Foundation is a world-renowned coalition of wireless
developers and community volunteers committed to providing low-cost,
do-it-yourself, community-controlled alternatives to contemporary
broadband models. CUWiN is fiscally sponsored by Grassroots.org, a
non-profit 501c3.  CUWiN's mission is to develop decentralized,
community-owned networks that foster democratic cultures and local
content. Through advocacy and through our commitment to open source
technology, CUWiN supports organic networks that grow to meet the needs
of their communities.

About CCI (http://cci.cs.loyola.edu)
The Center for Community Informatics engages Loyola College's students,
faculty and staff in supporting the creation and deployment of
informatics tools for community empowerment.  CCI develops the Community
Telecenter Free Software Toolset; promotes awareness events for the
Loyola College community; offer courses in Community Informatics;
promotes Digital Inclusion Conferences; researches and develops
human-friendly technologies to facilitate inclusion in the New Society
of Knowledge; and, evaluates, documents and develops sustainable models
for Universal Access to Informatics.

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RE: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 -- Washington, DC.

2007-04-28 Thread Smith, Rick
Charles has a point... vendor members pay for the privilege...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 --
Washington, DC.

Charles,

How did I know you would make this an issue? ;-)

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Charles Wu wrote:
 Out of curiosity...does this mean I can just email blast the list with
 events that I organize?

 -Charles 


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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Sascha Meinrath
 Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 12:30 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 --
 Washington, DC.

 FYI:

 Contact:
 Sascha Meinrath
 Executive Director
 CUWiN Foundation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 217-278-3933 x31

 INTERNATIONAL SUMMIT TO ADDRESS FUTURE OF BROADBAND
 -- Community Technology Leaders from Six Continents to Participate --

 Champaign-Urbana, I.L., April 18 -- The CUWiN Foundation and the
Center
 for Community Informatics (CCI) will host the International Summit for
 Community Wireless Networks (http://WirelessSummit.org) from May
18-20,
 2007 at Loyola College in Columbia, Maryland.

 The summit is the largest gathering of wireless network developers,
 technology and policy experts, and community organizers working to
build
 universal, low-cost broadband networks around the world. We are proud
 to host an event that brings together technologists and activists
 committed to universal access to informatics, said Marco Figueiredo,
 CCI Director.

 The International Summit for Community Wireless Networks explores the
 opportunities and challenges facing the growing movement to build
 community and municipal broadband networks, said Sascha Meinrath,
 co-founder and Executive Director of CUWiN. This event showcases
 cutting-edge technologies and develops political strategies to
increase
 digital inclusion.

 Since the first National Summit for Community Wireless Networks in
2004,
 over 300 Community Internet and municipal broadband projects have
sprung
 up in the United States alone. The Summit will focus on how these
 networks can better serve their target populations, the policies
needed
 to support broader deployment of community wireless systems, and the
 latest technological and software innovations.

 Presenters at previous summits have included FCC Commissioner Jonathan
 Adelstein, Jim Baller of the Baller Herbst Law Group, Annie Collins of
 Fiber for Our Future, Mark Cooper of the Consumer Federation of
America,
 Harold Feld of Media Access Project, Robert W. McChesney of Free
Press,
 Matt Rantanen of Tribal Digital Village, Greg Richardson of Civitium
 LLC, Paul Smith of the Center for Neighborhood Technologies, Jim
Snider
 of the New America Foundation, Dana Spiegel of NYCwireless, Esme Vos
of
 Muniwireless.com and many other luminaries.

 High-speed broadband access is the electricity of the 21st century,
yet
 many rural and poorer urban communities are being left off the grid,
 said Ben Scott, policy director of Free Press, the DC-based policy
 think-tank. The innovators and organizers at the International Summit
 for Community Wireless Networks are blazing the trail to make
broadband
 affordable and available to everyone.

 About CUWiN (http://www.cuwin.net)
 The CUWiN Foundation is a world-renowned coalition of wireless
 developers and community volunteers committed to providing low-cost,
 do-it-yourself, community-controlled alternatives to contemporary
 broadband models. CUWiN is fiscally sponsored by Grassroots.org, a
 non-profit 501c3.  CUWiN's mission is to develop decentralized,
 community-owned networks that foster democratic cultures and local
 content. Through advocacy and through our commitment to open source
 technology, CUWiN supports organic networks that grow to meet the
needs
 of their communities.

 About CCI (http://cci.cs.loyola.edu)
 The Center for Community Informatics engages Loyola College's
students,
 faculty and staff in supporting the creation and deployment of
 informatics tools for community empowerment.  CCI develops the
Community
 Telecenter Free Software Toolset; promotes awareness events for the
 Loyola College community; offer courses in Community Informatics;
 promotes Digital Inclusion Conferences; researches and develops
 human-friendly technologies to facilitate inclusion in the New Society
 of Knowledge; and, evaluates, documents and develops sustainable
models
 for Universal Access to Informatics.

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Re: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 -- Washington, DC.

2007-04-28 Thread George Rogato
Charles, you should be asking the board this, or at least members who 
pay and have some say in wispa, not the open anyone can post wireless 
-list..


Don't you agree?

George

Charles Wu wrote:

Out of curiosity...does this mean I can just email blast the list with
events that I organize?

-Charles 



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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sascha Meinrath
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 12:30 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 --
Washington, DC.

FYI:

Contact:
Sascha Meinrath
Executive Director
CUWiN Foundation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
217-278-3933 x31

INTERNATIONAL SUMMIT TO ADDRESS FUTURE OF BROADBAND
-- Community Technology Leaders from Six Continents to Participate --

Champaign-Urbana, I.L., April 18 -- The CUWiN Foundation and the Center
for Community Informatics (CCI) will host the International Summit for
Community Wireless Networks (http://WirelessSummit.org) from May 18-20,
2007 at Loyola College in Columbia, Maryland.

The summit is the largest gathering of wireless network developers,
technology and policy experts, and community organizers working to build
universal, low-cost broadband networks around the world. We are proud
to host an event that brings together technologists and activists
committed to universal access to informatics, said Marco Figueiredo,
CCI Director.

The International Summit for Community Wireless Networks explores the
opportunities and challenges facing the growing movement to build
community and municipal broadband networks, said Sascha Meinrath,
co-founder and Executive Director of CUWiN. This event showcases
cutting-edge technologies and develops political strategies to increase
digital inclusion.

Since the first National Summit for Community Wireless Networks in 2004,
over 300 Community Internet and municipal broadband projects have sprung
up in the United States alone. The Summit will focus on how these
networks can better serve their target populations, the policies needed
to support broader deployment of community wireless systems, and the
latest technological and software innovations.

Presenters at previous summits have included FCC Commissioner Jonathan
Adelstein, Jim Baller of the Baller Herbst Law Group, Annie Collins of
Fiber for Our Future, Mark Cooper of the Consumer Federation of America,
Harold Feld of Media Access Project, Robert W. McChesney of Free Press,
Matt Rantanen of Tribal Digital Village, Greg Richardson of Civitium
LLC, Paul Smith of the Center for Neighborhood Technologies, Jim Snider
of the New America Foundation, Dana Spiegel of NYCwireless, Esme Vos of
Muniwireless.com and many other luminaries.

High-speed broadband access is the electricity of the 21st century, yet
many rural and poorer urban communities are being left off the grid,
said Ben Scott, policy director of Free Press, the DC-based policy
think-tank. The innovators and organizers at the International Summit
for Community Wireless Networks are blazing the trail to make broadband
affordable and available to everyone.

About CUWiN (http://www.cuwin.net)
The CUWiN Foundation is a world-renowned coalition of wireless
developers and community volunteers committed to providing low-cost,
do-it-yourself, community-controlled alternatives to contemporary
broadband models. CUWiN is fiscally sponsored by Grassroots.org, a
non-profit 501c3.  CUWiN's mission is to develop decentralized,
community-owned networks that foster democratic cultures and local
content. Through advocacy and through our commitment to open source
technology, CUWiN supports organic networks that grow to meet the needs
of their communities.

About CCI (http://cci.cs.loyola.edu)
The Center for Community Informatics engages Loyola College's students,
faculty and staff in supporting the creation and deployment of
informatics tools for community empowerment.  CCI develops the Community
Telecenter Free Software Toolset; promotes awareness events for the
Loyola College community; offer courses in Community Informatics;
promotes Digital Inclusion Conferences; researches and develops
human-friendly technologies to facilitate inclusion in the New Society
of Knowledge; and, evaluates, documents and develops sustainable models
for Universal Access to Informatics.

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[WISPA] Community Wireless Summit May 18-20, 2007 -- Washington, DC.

2007-04-23 Thread Sascha Meinrath
FYI:

Contact:
Sascha Meinrath
Executive Director
CUWiN Foundation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
217-278-3933 x31

INTERNATIONAL SUMMIT TO ADDRESS FUTURE OF BROADBAND
-- Community Technology Leaders from Six Continents to Participate --

Champaign-Urbana, I.L., April 18 -- The CUWiN Foundation and the Center for
Community Informatics (CCI) will host the International Summit for Community
Wireless Networks (http://WirelessSummit.org) from May 18-20, 2007 at Loyola
College in Columbia, Maryland.

The summit is the largest gathering of wireless network developers, technology
and policy experts, and community organizers working to build universal,
low-cost broadband networks around the world. We are proud to host an event
that brings together technologists and activists committed to universal access
to informatics, said Marco Figueiredo, CCI Director.

The International Summit for Community Wireless Networks explores the
opportunities and challenges facing the growing movement to build community and
municipal broadband networks, said Sascha Meinrath, co-founder and Executive
Director of CUWiN. This event showcases cutting-edge technologies and develops
political strategies to increase digital inclusion.

Since the first National Summit for Community Wireless Networks in 2004, over
300 Community Internet and municipal broadband projects have sprung up in the
United States alone. The Summit will focus on how these networks can better
serve their target populations, the policies needed to support broader
deployment of community wireless systems, and the latest technological and
software innovations.

Presenters at previous summits have included FCC Commissioner Jonathan
Adelstein, Jim Baller of the Baller Herbst Law Group, Annie Collins of Fiber for
Our Future, Mark Cooper of the Consumer Federation of America, Harold Feld of
Media Access Project, Robert W. McChesney of Free Press, Matt Rantanen of Tribal
Digital Village, Greg Richardson of Civitium LLC, Paul Smith of the Center for
Neighborhood Technologies, Jim Snider of the New America Foundation, Dana
Spiegel of NYCwireless, Esme Vos of Muniwireless.com and many other luminaries.

High-speed broadband access is the electricity of the 21st century, yet many
rural and poorer urban communities are being left off the grid, said Ben Scott,
policy director of Free Press, the DC-based policy think-tank. The innovators
and organizers at the International Summit for Community Wireless Networks are
blazing the trail to make broadband affordable and available to everyone.

About CUWiN (http://www.cuwin.net)
The CUWiN Foundation is a world-renowned coalition of wireless developers and
community volunteers committed to providing low-cost, do-it-yourself,
community-controlled alternatives to contemporary broadband models. CUWiN is
fiscally sponsored by Grassroots.org, a non-profit 501c3.  CUWiN's mission is to
develop decentralized, community-owned networks that foster democratic cultures
and local content. Through advocacy and through our commitment to open source
technology, CUWiN supports organic networks that grow to meet the needs of their
communities.

About CCI (http://cci.cs.loyola.edu)
The Center for Community Informatics engages Loyola College’s students, faculty
and staff in supporting the creation and deployment of informatics tools for
community empowerment.  CCI develops the Community Telecenter Free Software
Toolset; promotes awareness events for the Loyola College community; offer
courses in Community Informatics; promotes Digital Inclusion Conferences;
researches and develops human-friendly technologies to facilitate inclusion in
the New Society of Knowledge; and, evaluates, documents and develops sustainable
models for Universal Access to Informatics.

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