Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-04 Thread can...@believewireless.net
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Chuck, I will contact you offlist. I have some question. I have not tried SBA recently, and its time

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
- From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow On Jan 2, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: What I'd like to see is a SBA Broadband Lease guarantee

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-03 Thread Brian Webster
...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Chuck, I will contact you offlist. I have some question. I have not tried SBA recently, and its time that I probably should, before I critisize

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-03 Thread J. Vogel
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Chuck, I will contact you offlist. I have some question. I have not tried SBA recently, and its time that I probably should, before I critisize the program. My point was... In past experience SBA enabled

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-03 Thread eje
-Mobile -Original Message- From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:26:37 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Tom, The points you make seem to drive home the point that some leasing

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-03 Thread eje
General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Another way of looking at it is that if deflation is occurring, and you have committed to pay for the CPE via leasing, you will be using future dollars that are worth more to pay for them, (e.g. at the time I

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-03 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Jan 3, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Chuck, I will contact you offlist. I have some question. Sure, be happy to answer whatever I can. I have not tried SBA recently, and its time that I probably should, before I critisize the program. My point was... In past experience

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-03 Thread J. Vogel
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Chuck, I will contact you offlist. I have some question. I have not tried SBA recently, and its time that I probably should, before I critisize the program. My point

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread can...@believewireless.net
. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow We have been charging

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Travis Johnson
"likely" in just 6 months. That's the wiser "bet", by a million times. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" t...@ida.net To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: T

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
, January 01, 2009 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Mike Hammett
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow We have been charging the same for internet service for almost 5 years and just two days ago, we got double the new sign-ups on a single day of what we can do for installs. Business is booming in our area and our industry. Just

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow We have been charging the same for internet service for almost 5 years and just two days ago, we got double the new sign-ups on a single day of what we can do for installs. Business is booming in our area and our industry. Just looking

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Matt Liotta
: Thursday, January 01, 2009 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow We have been charging the same for internet service for almost 5 years and just two days ago, we got double the new sign-ups on a single day of what we can do for installs. Business is booming

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Why worry about money

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Chuck Bartosch
subsidize Fiber Optic deployment growth. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Jan 1, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Actually, Not sure the Government has the right to define broadband. Any good contract defines for the purposes of the contract the terms that are used that don't have an obviously clear independent definition. The Government, if it's handing

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-02 Thread reader
on many things. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Mike Hammett
, 2008 12:59 PM To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Let us hope that with the push for more broadband accessibility we get more spectrum!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Jeff Broadwick
, but unlikely. Happy New Year! Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Jeff, I disagree

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
. - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Government is not a monolith, and to condemn it out of hand is unreasonable. You can

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Josh Luthman wrote: We have all had the pleasure to earn a customer that has

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
...@intelliwave.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Let us hope that with the push for more broadband accessibility we get more spectrum!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Mike Hammett
: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:13 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Yeah, but the secret to getting more spectrum is not asking for it, nor proving need. The secret is identifying spectrum

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
, not by who has the most access to long term finance. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread reader
, January 01, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow I generally characterize our government, (to folks from other places where there is not so much freedom) as an insane giant robot that was originally created to work for us and is collectively owned by all of us. We

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread reader
insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Every WISP needs

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Travis Johnson
- Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Every WISP needs to ask themselves... Why are they not

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:24 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow And provided you live

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread reader
insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow You can not grow in large

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Travis Johnson
From: "Travis Johnson" t...@ida.net To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow You can not grow in large scales without financing... and I don't understand why p

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread reader
@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow We have been charging the same for internet service for almost 5 years and just two days ago, we got double the new sign-ups on a single day of what we can do for installs. Business

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-01 Thread Josh Luthman
times. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow We have been

[WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Josh Luthman
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123059580600140977.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Hopefully the cable companies haven't bought out the decision makers. It would be great to see the WISPs across the states that are doing exactly what is being suggested needs done gets assistance. I know it can't come

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread David E. Smith
Josh Luthman wrote: We have all had the pleasure to earn a customer that has three kids nagging at him for a PC and Internet access with that extra bonus check from work, but think of the countless older couples or less fortunate families that could really use the help catching up with the

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Cable wants it to be that way - that's why I'm worried cable buys the decision makers. They did note that DSL is stuck in the 1 and 1.5 meg range, though... I do agree with the comment that the highway needs to be built large the one time it is initially built, but not everyone can afford to use

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread chris cooper
And your chainsaws- going to need to cut some mighty big holes in the air to fit all the needed spectrum into Chris That article states they want to define broadband as 5Mbps, and some folks suggest 10Mbps. Get your forklifts ready! David Smith MVN.net

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Let us hope that with the push for more broadband accessibility we get more spectrum!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread reader
help smaller ISPs grow Let us hope that with the push for more broadband accessibility we get more spectrum!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread jp
I'm all for having someone else pay for expensive infrastructure, but I hope that if the feds go forward with something like this, it's done differently than the RUS system. It's easier to do business my way and pay a tiny bit more for money from a bank, than to do all the RUS planning and

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Mark Nash
...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow From the article: The big cable providers also want to target underserved areas, where there is only one broadband provider or the service isn't

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow From

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread reader
31, 2008 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow I'm very tired of hearing your anti-government sentiment, Mark. Very tired. Over the years. Very, very tired of it. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Jack Unger
*** Everybody brings JOY to this list. Some by entering, some by LEAVING *** rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm very, very, very pruned -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Brian Webster
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of jp Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow I'm all for having someone else pay for expensive infrastructure, but I hope that if the feds go forward

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Blair Davis
I happen to agree with muddyfrog... I built my network with NO money from the gov. My 'competition' has taken gov money, lots of it One of them put up a $40K AP cluster, 900MHz, smack in the middle of a 900MHz PtP link I have, (running since 2001), and then complained to me when they had

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Don Renner
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow Crossroads has shut things down for now due to money supply. Apparently with the banking crisis their banks have delayed releasing funds to them for deployment. My project for them was shut down back at the end of August. Thank You

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Jeff Broadwick
reduce the interest rate to the borrower. Regards, Jeff _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow *** Everybody

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Jack Unger
, 2008 2:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow *** Everybody brings JOY to this list. Some by entering, some by LEAVING *** rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm very, very, very pruned -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Mark Nash
- Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow I'm very, very, very tired of absolute and total incompetence of government being given my money

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow