Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-27 Thread John Thomas
There are several of these on I80 and Hwy 50 in Northern CA. These silly 
things cost like $40,000 to sort of look like a tree

John

Tom Sharples wrote:
> We spotted several on a recent road-trip around the Sacramento area. Looked 
> like the world's worst fake Christmas tree from Walmart!
>
> Tom S.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Eje Gustafsson" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar 
> telecommunicationstowers
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>> You can find a lot of fake palm trees in Las Vegas for similar reasons 
>> that
>> if they didn't "hide" the towers then they couldn't put up any more. Drive
>> north towards Nellis airforce base on I-15 on the left side along the rail
>> road tracks one of the palms is not a real palm. There are plenty others
>> around that I seen on different smaller roads.
>>
>> Cities wants cell phones and good coverage but many starts to be sticklers
>> about letting the towers go up to give this coverage. T-mobile and AT&T 
>> had
>> a very long outdrawn "fight" to be able to install the towers they needed 
>> in
>> Pittsburg to get the coverage required. They ended up having to share 
>> tower
>> but even then it was not easy for then. Sister town Frontenac expedited
>> their request on the other hand. The differences between cities politics 
>> and
>> building approvals can be very different (one reason we are now located in
>> Frontenac instead of Pittsburg because Frontenac bent over backwards to 
>> make
>> us happy and get us going while with both Pittsburg as well the county
>> everything we wanted threw up red flags).
>>
>> / Eje
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Greg
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:19 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
>> telecommunicationstowers
>>
>> The town of Saddle River NJ fought the phone company and they reached an
>> agreement - the phone company decorated the tower with fake evergreen
>> branches. The tower looks like a big pine tree. If you're ever driving on
>> Rt. 17 look at the big pine tree right next to the highway at the Saddle
>> River exit.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Jeff Broadwick
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> "After all, travel is often as much about the journey as it is about the
>>> destination."
>>>
>>> WOW?!?!
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48 AM
>>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
>>> telecommunicationstowers
>>>
>>> http://www.benton.org/outgoingframe/29127
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>>>
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>>> Mike Hammett
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>>> http://www.ics-il.com
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Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Richardson
Sometimes the cure is worse than the ailment.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom Sharples
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar 
telecommunicationstowers

We spotted several on a recent road-trip around the Sacramento area. Looked 
like the world's worst fake Christmas tree from Walmart!

Tom S.

- Original Message - 
From: "Eje Gustafsson" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar 
telecommunicationstowers


> You can find a lot of fake palm trees in Las Vegas for similar reasons 
> that
> if they didn't "hide" the towers then they couldn't put up any more. Drive
> north towards Nellis airforce base on I-15 on the left side along the rail
> road tracks one of the palms is not a real palm. There are plenty others
> around that I seen on different smaller roads.
>
> Cities wants cell phones and good coverage but many starts to be sticklers
> about letting the towers go up to give this coverage. T-mobile and AT&T 
> had
> a very long outdrawn "fight" to be able to install the towers they needed 
> in
> Pittsburg to get the coverage required. They ended up having to share 
> tower
> but even then it was not easy for then. Sister town Frontenac expedited
> their request on the other hand. The differences between cities politics 
> and
> building approvals can be very different (one reason we are now located in
> Frontenac instead of Pittsburg because Frontenac bent over backwards to 
> make
> us happy and get us going while with both Pittsburg as well the county
> everything we wanted threw up red flags).
>
> / Eje
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:19 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
> telecommunicationstowers
>
> The town of Saddle River NJ fought the phone company and they reached an
> agreement - the phone company decorated the tower with fake evergreen
> branches. The tower looks like a big pine tree. If you're ever driving on
> Rt. 17 look at the big pine tree right next to the highway at the Saddle
> River exit.
>
> Greg
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Jeff Broadwick
> wrote:
>
>> "After all, travel is often as much about the journey as it is about the
>> destination."
>>
>> WOW?!?!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48 AM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
>> telecommunicationstowers
>>
>> http://www.benton.org/outgoingframe/29127
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Tom Sharples
We spotted several on a recent road-trip around the Sacramento area. Looked 
like the world's worst fake Christmas tree from Walmart!

Tom S.

- Original Message - 
From: "Eje Gustafsson" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar 
telecommunicationstowers


> You can find a lot of fake palm trees in Las Vegas for similar reasons 
> that
> if they didn't "hide" the towers then they couldn't put up any more. Drive
> north towards Nellis airforce base on I-15 on the left side along the rail
> road tracks one of the palms is not a real palm. There are plenty others
> around that I seen on different smaller roads.
>
> Cities wants cell phones and good coverage but many starts to be sticklers
> about letting the towers go up to give this coverage. T-mobile and AT&T 
> had
> a very long outdrawn "fight" to be able to install the towers they needed 
> in
> Pittsburg to get the coverage required. They ended up having to share 
> tower
> but even then it was not easy for then. Sister town Frontenac expedited
> their request on the other hand. The differences between cities politics 
> and
> building approvals can be very different (one reason we are now located in
> Frontenac instead of Pittsburg because Frontenac bent over backwards to 
> make
> us happy and get us going while with both Pittsburg as well the county
> everything we wanted threw up red flags).
>
> / Eje
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:19 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
> telecommunicationstowers
>
> The town of Saddle River NJ fought the phone company and they reached an
> agreement - the phone company decorated the tower with fake evergreen
> branches. The tower looks like a big pine tree. If you're ever driving on
> Rt. 17 look at the big pine tree right next to the highway at the Saddle
> River exit.
>
> Greg
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Jeff Broadwick
> wrote:
>
>> "After all, travel is often as much about the journey as it is about the
>> destination."
>>
>> WOW?!?!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48 AM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar
>> telecommunicationstowers
>>
>> http://www.benton.org/outgoingframe/29127
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
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