Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers
There are several of these on I80 and Hwy 50 in Northern CA. These silly things cost like $40,000 to sort of look like a tree John Tom Sharples wrote: > We spotted several on a recent road-trip around the Sacramento area. Looked > like the world's worst fake Christmas tree from Walmart! > > Tom S. > > - Original Message - > From: "Eje Gustafsson" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:04 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar > telecommunicationstowers > > > >> You can find a lot of fake palm trees in Las Vegas for similar reasons >> that >> if they didn't "hide" the towers then they couldn't put up any more. Drive >> north towards Nellis airforce base on I-15 on the left side along the rail >> road tracks one of the palms is not a real palm. There are plenty others >> around that I seen on different smaller roads. >> >> Cities wants cell phones and good coverage but many starts to be sticklers >> about letting the towers go up to give this coverage. T-mobile and AT&T >> had >> a very long outdrawn "fight" to be able to install the towers they needed >> in >> Pittsburg to get the coverage required. They ended up having to share >> tower >> but even then it was not easy for then. Sister town Frontenac expedited >> their request on the other hand. The differences between cities politics >> and >> building approvals can be very different (one reason we are now located in >> Frontenac instead of Pittsburg because Frontenac bent over backwards to >> make >> us happy and get us going while with both Pittsburg as well the county >> everything we wanted threw up red flags). >> >> / Eje >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Greg >> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:19 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar >> telecommunicationstowers >> >> The town of Saddle River NJ fought the phone company and they reached an >> agreement - the phone company decorated the tower with fake evergreen >> branches. The tower looks like a big pine tree. If you're ever driving on >> Rt. 17 look at the big pine tree right next to the highway at the Saddle >> River exit. >> >> Greg >> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Jeff Broadwick >> wrote: >> >> >>> "After all, travel is often as much about the journey as it is about the >>> destination." >>> >>> WOW?!?! >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48 AM >>> To: wireless@wispa.org >>> Subject: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar >>> telecommunicationstowers >>> >>> http://www.benton.org/outgoingframe/29127 >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> --
Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers
Sometimes the cure is worse than the ailment. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sharples Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers We spotted several on a recent road-trip around the Sacramento area. Looked like the world's worst fake Christmas tree from Walmart! Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Eje Gustafsson" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers > You can find a lot of fake palm trees in Las Vegas for similar reasons > that > if they didn't "hide" the towers then they couldn't put up any more. Drive > north towards Nellis airforce base on I-15 on the left side along the rail > road tracks one of the palms is not a real palm. There are plenty others > around that I seen on different smaller roads. > > Cities wants cell phones and good coverage but many starts to be sticklers > about letting the towers go up to give this coverage. T-mobile and AT&T > had > a very long outdrawn "fight" to be able to install the towers they needed > in > Pittsburg to get the coverage required. They ended up having to share > tower > but even then it was not easy for then. Sister town Frontenac expedited > their request on the other hand. The differences between cities politics > and > building approvals can be very different (one reason we are now located in > Frontenac instead of Pittsburg because Frontenac bent over backwards to > make > us happy and get us going while with both Pittsburg as well the county > everything we wanted threw up red flags). > > / Eje > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Greg > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:19 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar > telecommunicationstowers > > The town of Saddle River NJ fought the phone company and they reached an > agreement - the phone company decorated the tower with fake evergreen > branches. The tower looks like a big pine tree. If you're ever driving on > Rt. 17 look at the big pine tree right next to the highway at the Saddle > River exit. > > Greg > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Jeff Broadwick > wrote: > >> "After all, travel is often as much about the journey as it is about the >> destination." >> >> WOW?!?! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48 AM >> To: wireless@wispa.org >> Subject: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar >> telecommunicationstowers >> >> http://www.benton.org/outgoingframe/29127 >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > -
Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers
We spotted several on a recent road-trip around the Sacramento area. Looked like the world's worst fake Christmas tree from Walmart! Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Eje Gustafsson" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers > You can find a lot of fake palm trees in Las Vegas for similar reasons > that > if they didn't "hide" the towers then they couldn't put up any more. Drive > north towards Nellis airforce base on I-15 on the left side along the rail > road tracks one of the palms is not a real palm. There are plenty others > around that I seen on different smaller roads. > > Cities wants cell phones and good coverage but many starts to be sticklers > about letting the towers go up to give this coverage. T-mobile and AT&T > had > a very long outdrawn "fight" to be able to install the towers they needed > in > Pittsburg to get the coverage required. They ended up having to share > tower > but even then it was not easy for then. Sister town Frontenac expedited > their request on the other hand. The differences between cities politics > and > building approvals can be very different (one reason we are now located in > Frontenac instead of Pittsburg because Frontenac bent over backwards to > make > us happy and get us going while with both Pittsburg as well the county > everything we wanted threw up red flags). > > / Eje > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Greg > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:19 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar > telecommunicationstowers > > The town of Saddle River NJ fought the phone company and they reached an > agreement - the phone company decorated the tower with fake evergreen > branches. The tower looks like a big pine tree. If you're ever driving on > Rt. 17 look at the big pine tree right next to the highway at the Saddle > River exit. > > Greg > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Jeff Broadwick > wrote: > >> "After all, travel is often as much about the journey as it is about the >> destination." >> >> WOW?!?! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48 AM >> To: wireless@wispa.org >> Subject: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar >> telecommunicationstowers >> >> http://www.benton.org/outgoingframe/29127 >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/