Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
In a dusty (or bug ridden) location, dielectric on cat-5 can save you truck rolls. Often the problem does not occur for about two years, but dielectric does seem to keep the grit out of the connection. Moisture causing corrosion? I have not had many of those problems either with or without dielectric unless equipment was installed in a really poor location. That said, having a problem at the radio itself is a rarity. Having the problem at a surge is much more likely. At the radio, ants are the most common culprit for high CRCs, and even that does not happen very often. On 11/15/2013 1:49 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Some people are. Majority are not. No ones seems to have any evidence suggesting it helps but there hasn't been anything to show it hurts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Dielectric Grease
Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
I think we just had this conversation 2 weeks ago :) Yes some are... I'm not. Might start. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 11/15/13, 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
Some people are. Majority are not. No ones seems to have any evidence suggesting it helps but there hasn't been anything to show it hurts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
It is great if you do, not real bad if you don't... unless the unit allows extra moisture. The issue is being disciplined enough to do it every time times the guys you have in the field. When you are on a roof, and the tube is down in another bag in the truck... most likely you will not climb all the way down and back up for the benefit. But if you are organized and disciplined, dielectric grease will guarantee years of service on electrical connectors. It is why car manufacturers use it on their connectors.Especially with the long warranties in service today. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
I wonder if corrosion could be a cause for CRC errors we see on some of our APs. Clay Stewart wrote: It is great if you do, not real bad if you don't... unless the unit allows extra moisture. The issue is being disciplined enough to do it every time times the guys you have in the field. When you are on a roof, and the tube is down in another bag in the truck... most likely you will not climb all the way down and back up for the benefit. But if you are organized and disciplined, dielectric grease will guarantee years of service on electrical connectors. It is why car manufacturers use it on their connectors.Especially with the long warranties in service today. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net mailto:n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
Could be... I brought this up a few weeks ago for the exact reason. When we take APs out of production after a few years the Ethernet connectors are often corroded. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 11/15/13, 3:16 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I wonder if corrosion could be a cause for CRC errors we see on some of our APs. Clay Stewart wrote: It is great if you do, not real bad if you don't... unless the unit allows extra moisture. The issue is being disciplined enough to do it every time times the guys you have in the field. When you are on a roof, and the tube is down in another bag in the truck... most likely you will not climb all the way down and back up for the benefit. But if you are organized and disciplined, dielectric grease will guarantee years of service on electrical connectors. It is why car manufacturers use it on their connectors.Especially with the long warranties in service today. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net mailto:n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
Yeah, we use it on RJs and definitely on RF connectors. I believe a few years ago I read a Motorola Manual that recommended using it on the RJs as well for the Canopy product line From: ~NGL~ Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
I have both (evidence). Yes it helps protect from corrosion but it also can cause the sensitive ethernet to have issues depending on the quality and consistency of grease used. The little wires just use spring like pressure to connect, I've seen some thicker grease prevent good connection. I chose not to use it except for coax connectors or telephone lines - no ethernet. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:50 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease Some people are. Majority are not. No ones seems to have any evidence suggesting it helps but there hasn't been anything to show it hurts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it'sin English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless attachment: flag.gif ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad weatherproofing. I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented the ethernet from failing. We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies. We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower work. Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on it, otherwise it makes it a mess. There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on phone lines for years. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
Where do you get it in reasonable quantity and how would it be used in N connectors. Starting to see some water ingress on old, 5year, weather proofed N connections. -- On 11/15/2013 6:12 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad weatherproofing. I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented the ethernet from failing. We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies. We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower work. Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on it, otherwise it makes it a mess. There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on phone lines for years. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
I haven't bought it in a long time (because I bought a big case of it on eBay once at a huge discount and we still have inventory), but this place has the version we use... *http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld* Typically, we put it the barrel part of the N-Connector where the pin is... Remember, a little dab will do ya. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Where do you get it in reasonable quantity and how would it be used in N connectors. Starting to see some water ingress on old, 5year, weather proofed N connections. -- On 11/15/2013 6:12 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad weatherproofing. I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented the ethernet from failing. We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies. We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower work. Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on it, otherwise it makes it a mess. There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on phone lines for years. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless image/gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
We've been doing it this way for 6-7 years. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I haven't bought it in a long time (because I bought a big case of it on eBay once at a huge discount and we still have inventory), but this place has the version we use... *http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld* Typically, we put it the barrel part of the N-Connector where the pin is... Remember, a little dab will do ya. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Where do you get it in reasonable quantity and how would it be used in N connectors. Starting to see some water ingress on old, 5year, weather proofed N connections. -- On 11/15/2013 6:12 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad weatherproofing. I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented the ethernet from failing. We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies. We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower work. Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on it, otherwise it makes it a mess. There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on phone lines for years. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless image/gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
What brand do you use and where do you source it? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:13 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad weatherproofing. I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented the ethernet from failing. We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies. We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower work. Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on it, otherwise it makes it a mess. There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on phone lines for years.Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it'sin English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless attachment: flag.gif ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
I linked it previously, it's the Boss brand. *http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld* Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: What brand do you use and where do you source it? Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- *From*: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:13 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad weatherproofing. I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented the ethernet from failing. We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies. We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower work. Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on it, otherwise it makes it a mess. There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on phone lines for years. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless attachment: flag.gif ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] dielectric grease
My installer also does satellite installs. He says they use dielectric grease to water proof connections. Why not use that instead of mastic tape? -RickG Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] dielectric grease
My installer also does satellite installs. He says they use dielectric grease to water proof connections. Why not use that instead of mastic tape? -RickG Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
