Re: [WISPA] FE60U Backhaul

2007-08-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
These units are reliable.  But not beyond their capable range. The 
manufacturer's path calc tool is pretty accurate, except maybe off by about 
one 9 reliabilty. (meaning use three 9 chart for two 9 real world.) In a 
recent Siminar on GB, Sprint interestingly brought up the situation that 
explained all rain is not the same and the rate of rain fall, that most 
tools use, is not the only factor. For example the size of the rain drop 
itself had varying effects on degrading signal.  Many also incorrectly 
assume that MW gear does not create interference beyond 1 mile when the 
range is only less than a mile. The reason the limit is less than 1 mile is 
because that Rain has a HUGE effect on signal, and thats the range when rain 
is present. But in dry clear weather the signal can easilly go 5 miles 
(making a link) even considering oxygen absorbion.  Thats why radios with 
APC are advantageous as power is only as high as needed to get a good link 
and counter act the absorbtion characteristics of the weather.  (Of course 
the narrow beams are often considered interference free).  But this narrow 
interference free beam is what makes it hard to stay aligned. Mounting a 13 
panel on a JRM (2-3/8 dia) mount, with the only antenna on it, is barely 
stable enough for a short range link. We recommend 3 pole MINIMUM. And 
keeping the 2ft parabolics stable are even tougher.  Almost always best if 
fastened tight to an IBEAM or Wall, apposed to a Mast or Cantilever.


So again, these units are VERY reliable, but you need to know what you are 
doing as far as engineering them to be reliable.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] FE60U Backhaul



Luke,

The unit itself is very reliable however if the link is mis-engineered or 
mis-aligned then it will be unreliable. My guess is that the vendor 
reporting the problem has either mis-engineered the link and is trying to 
make it work over too long of a distance OR they installed the link 
without a true line-of-sight path. Any obstruction between the two units 
will prevent reliable operation. By any I mean anything with a physical 
dimension to it - a pole, a tree, a paint bucket, etc.


jack


Luke Pack wrote:
We have decided to look into this particular BH.  In doing so, there is 
one of our vendors that are reporting problems with this unit in rain, 
snow and fog.  Most people I have talked with say that will NOT happen 
and swear to their dependability.  This may be more true given that our 
link is less than 100yds away and on the roofs of two very high 
buildings.  So, without more chatting here's the questions:


1. what's everyone's opinion on this- any users of it that can tell me 
those people having problems are aiming wrong or something?

2. What's your experience with it?

Regards,

Luke Pack
 Wireless Administrator
 Internet Services of Northern Illinois
 (815) 380-3773 Ext. 286
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[WISPA] FE60U Backhaul

2007-08-10 Thread Luke Pack
We have decided to look into this particular BH.  In doing so, there is one of 
our vendors that are reporting problems with this unit in rain, snow and fog.  
Most people I have talked with say that will NOT happen and swear to their 
dependability.  This may be more true given that our link is less than 100yds 
away and on the roofs of two very high buildings.  So, without more chatting 
here's the questions:

1. what's everyone's opinion on this- any users of it that can tell me those 
people having problems are aiming wrong or something?
2. What's your experience with it?

Regards,

Luke Pack
 Wireless Administrator
 Internet Services of Northern Illinois
 (815) 380-3773 Ext. 286
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Re: [WISPA] FE60U Backhaul

2007-08-10 Thread Jack Unger

Luke,

The unit itself is very reliable however if the link is mis-engineered 
or mis-aligned then it will be unreliable. My guess is that the vendor 
reporting the problem has either mis-engineered the link and is trying 
to make it work over too long of a distance OR they installed the link 
without a true line-of-sight path. Any obstruction between the two units 
will prevent reliable operation. By any I mean anything with a 
physical dimension to it - a pole, a tree, a paint bucket, etc.


jack


Luke Pack wrote:

We have decided to look into this particular BH.  In doing so, there is one of 
our vendors that are reporting problems with this unit in rain, snow and fog.  
Most people I have talked with say that will NOT happen and swear to their 
dependability.  This may be more true given that our link is less than 100yds 
away and on the roofs of two very high buildings.  So, without more chatting 
here's the questions:

1. what's everyone's opinion on this- any users of it that can tell me those 
people having problems are aiming wrong or something?
2. What's your experience with it?

Regards,

Luke Pack
 Wireless Administrator
 Internet Services of Northern Illinois
 (815) 380-3773 Ext. 286
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

WISPA Wants You! Join today!
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True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting
FCC Part 15 Certification for Manufacturers and Service Providers
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