[WISPA] FTTx pricing
I know some of you are doing FTTx, whether wholesaling it from someone else, or selling it yourself. What do you get for what wholesale price? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
Mike, Care to share more about the BTOP process? Or are you just preparing a proposal for the FOA on June 30th? Mike Hammett wrote: Hang. It should actually cost less than $10k, but $10k is a safe bet. I figured it'd cost me $7k to do it myself. I forget where I saw $10k. I'm budgeting $20k for my BTOP project to cover instances where you may have to bore at up to $200k/mile. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: sa...@michianawireless.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:08 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx Mike, Who are you working with for the build out quotes? We got quotes around 13,000 per mile. Was this the hang it or bury it? John Buwa Michiana Wireless - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: sarn...@info-ed.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:08:43 AM GMT -05:00 Columbia Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx It's about $10k/mile to build aerial 60 - 96 strand aerial cable. It's about $1600/home to do a 400 or so home FTTx deployment. Singlemode is what you'll want to use. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:53 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx What kind of cost are we looking at to get into fiber? What is the cost of fiber now by the foot...I know this will vary by type and strands...so say multimode, around 100 strands. I do not know much about fiber, so sorry if these are stupid questions. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:03:21 -0700 H. thanks for the heads up. Chuck Bartosch wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: I'm also interested in this information. WiFI and other wireless networking technologies have there place, but fiber does as well. Is there any operational lists for small/medium FTTx providers? Funny you should ask...WISPA is just starting up a new Fiber list as it turns out. It's a WISPA members list. Chuck Mike Hammett wrote: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FTTx Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non- PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
There isn't much to share at this time because there isn't much information available. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:43 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx Mike, Care to share more about the BTOP process? Or are you just preparing a proposal for the FOA on June 30th? Mike Hammett wrote: Hang. It should actually cost less than $10k, but $10k is a safe bet. I figured it'd cost me $7k to do it myself. I forget where I saw $10k. I'm budgeting $20k for my BTOP project to cover instances where you may have to bore at up to $200k/mile. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: sa...@michianawireless.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:08 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx Mike, Who are you working with for the build out quotes? We got quotes around 13,000 per mile. Was this the hang it or bury it? John Buwa Michiana Wireless - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: sarn...@info-ed.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:08:43 AM GMT -05:00 Columbia Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx It's about $10k/mile to build aerial 60 - 96 strand aerial cable. It's about $1600/home to do a 400 or so home FTTx deployment. Singlemode is what you'll want to use. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:53 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx What kind of cost are we looking at to get into fiber? What is the cost of fiber now by the foot...I know this will vary by type and strands...so say multimode, around 100 strands. I do not know much about fiber, so sorry if these are stupid questions. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:03:21 -0700 H. thanks for the heads up. Chuck Bartosch wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: I'm also interested in this information. WiFI and other wireless networking technologies have there place, but fiber does as well. Is there any operational lists for small/medium FTTx providers? Funny you should ask...WISPA is just starting up a new Fiber list as it turns out. It's a WISPA members list. Chuck Mike Hammett wrote: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FTTx Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non- PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
H. thanks for the heads up. Chuck Bartosch wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: I'm also interested in this information. WiFI and other wireless networking technologies have there place, but fiber does as well. Is there any operational lists for small/medium FTTx providers? Funny you should ask...WISPA is just starting up a new Fiber list as it turns out. It's a WISPA members list. Chuck Mike Hammett wrote: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FTTx Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non- PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
There's enough extra fiber that tranceiver based deployment could be done on a small scale along side it. I've run the fiber and I'm waiting for a GEPON 1gbps system to arrive any day from Versatek http://www.versatek.com/products/gepon.htm 1gbps for 32 users, or less if you want. I found this to be less expensive than a 2-fiber 100mbps dedicate tranceiver network solely on the cost of fiber splicing and ends. 1 fiber to the neighborhood means fewer splices or couplers along the path, and fewer at each end. Do a spreadsheet of the parts list you'll need, and fiber connectors will add up quick at $15-20 a pop. Splices are less, but still require considerable manpower. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:10:35PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non-PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
What kind of cost are we looking at to get into fiber? What is the cost of fiber now by the foot...I know this will vary by type and strands...so say multimode, around 100 strands. I do not know much about fiber, so sorry if these are stupid questions. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:03:21 -0700 H. thanks for the heads up. Chuck Bartosch wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: I'm also interested in this information. WiFI and other wireless networking technologies have there place, but fiber does as well. Is there any operational lists for small/medium FTTx providers? Funny you should ask...WISPA is just starting up a new Fiber list as it turns out. It's a WISPA members list. Chuck Mike Hammett wrote: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FTTx Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non- PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
It's about $10k/mile to build aerial 60 - 96 strand aerial cable. It's about $1600/home to do a 400 or so home FTTx deployment. Singlemode is what you'll want to use. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:53 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx What kind of cost are we looking at to get into fiber? What is the cost of fiber now by the foot...I know this will vary by type and strands...so say multimode, around 100 strands. I do not know much about fiber, so sorry if these are stupid questions. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:03:21 -0700 H. thanks for the heads up. Chuck Bartosch wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: I'm also interested in this information. WiFI and other wireless networking technologies have there place, but fiber does as well. Is there any operational lists for small/medium FTTx providers? Funny you should ask...WISPA is just starting up a new Fiber list as it turns out. It's a WISPA members list. Chuck Mike Hammett wrote: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FTTx Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non- PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
Mike, Who are you working with for the build out quotes? We got quotes around 13,000 per mile. Was this the hang it or bury it? John Buwa Michiana Wireless - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: sarn...@info-ed.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:08:43 AM GMT -05:00 Columbia Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx It's about $10k/mile to build aerial 60 - 96 strand aerial cable. It's about $1600/home to do a 400 or so home FTTx deployment. Singlemode is what you'll want to use. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:53 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx What kind of cost are we looking at to get into fiber? What is the cost of fiber now by the foot...I know this will vary by type and strands...so say multimode, around 100 strands. I do not know much about fiber, so sorry if these are stupid questions. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:03:21 -0700 H. thanks for the heads up. Chuck Bartosch wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: I'm also interested in this information. WiFI and other wireless networking technologies have there place, but fiber does as well. Is there any operational lists for small/medium FTTx providers? Funny you should ask...WISPA is just starting up a new Fiber list as it turns out. It's a WISPA members list. Chuck Mike Hammett wrote: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FTTx Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non- PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
Hang. It should actually cost less than $10k, but $10k is a safe bet. I figured it'd cost me $7k to do it myself. I forget where I saw $10k. I'm budgeting $20k for my BTOP project to cover instances where you may have to bore at up to $200k/mile. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: sa...@michianawireless.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:08 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx Mike, Who are you working with for the build out quotes? We got quotes around 13,000 per mile. Was this the hang it or bury it? John Buwa Michiana Wireless - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: sarn...@info-ed.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:08:43 AM GMT -05:00 Columbia Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx It's about $10k/mile to build aerial 60 - 96 strand aerial cable. It's about $1600/home to do a 400 or so home FTTx deployment. Singlemode is what you'll want to use. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:53 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx What kind of cost are we looking at to get into fiber? What is the cost of fiber now by the foot...I know this will vary by type and strands...so say multimode, around 100 strands. I do not know much about fiber, so sorry if these are stupid questions. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:03:21 -0700 H. thanks for the heads up. Chuck Bartosch wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: I'm also interested in this information. WiFI and other wireless networking technologies have there place, but fiber does as well. Is there any operational lists for small/medium FTTx providers? Funny you should ask...WISPA is just starting up a new Fiber list as it turns out. It's a WISPA members list. Chuck Mike Hammett wrote: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FTTx Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non- PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
[WISPA] FTTx
Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non-PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FTTx Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non-PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
I'm also interested in this information. WiFI and other wireless networking technologies have there place, but fiber does as well. Is there any operational lists for small/medium FTTx providers? Mike Hammett wrote: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FTTx Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non-PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
2009/6/15 Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) I built a network based around an Alloptic chassis. It is a very nice solution, can be built out entirely redundantly, even with hot-spare lasers (by way of a 2 - 1 passive combiner. One box does data and voice. Voice can be fed via a DS3 or T1, or you can configure the CPEs to act as ATAs. If you deliver TDM voice to the CPE, you are digital TDM all the way, so you can use a dialup modem or fax machine behind the CPE without any issues. Try that with an ATA!. The data connection to the chassis can be trunked, and subscribers placed in whatever VLAN you wish. CPE provisioning is easy, just plug it in at the customer site, and it's MAC will show up in the provisioning software at the headend, or you can provision ahead of time. RF video can be delivered over the network as well, by way of an add-on 2U laser source, which runs at a different wavelength. I have not used it, but have seen it deployed, and it does the job, even supports bi-direction datastreams, so digital set top boxes (or even cable modems) will work over the fiber. I really can't say enough good stuff about this company, their tech support as been fantastic, and the gear rock solid. http://www.alloptic.com/products/product.php?p=homegear4000id=131 http://www.alloptic.com/products/co.php WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
I like the TDM phone option, though too bad you can only get TDM phone with 2 VoIP phone. You know when the Edge10 will be out? ;-) That looks promising. It looks like they're leapfrogging the 2.5 GB PON technology. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:47 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FTTx 2009/6/15 Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) I built a network based around an Alloptic chassis. It is a very nice solution, can be built out entirely redundantly, even with hot-spare lasers (by way of a 2 - 1 passive combiner. One box does data and voice. Voice can be fed via a DS3 or T1, or you can configure the CPEs to act as ATAs. If you deliver TDM voice to the CPE, you are digital TDM all the way, so you can use a dialup modem or fax machine behind the CPE without any issues. Try that with an ATA!. The data connection to the chassis can be trunked, and subscribers placed in whatever VLAN you wish. CPE provisioning is easy, just plug it in at the customer site, and it's MAC will show up in the provisioning software at the headend, or you can provision ahead of time. RF video can be delivered over the network as well, by way of an add-on 2U laser source, which runs at a different wavelength. I have not used it, but have seen it deployed, and it does the job, even supports bi-direction datastreams, so digital set top boxes (or even cable modems) will work over the fiber. I really can't say enough good stuff about this company, their tech support as been fantastic, and the gear rock solid. http://www.alloptic.com/products/product.php?p=homegear4000id=131 http://www.alloptic.com/products/co.php WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
2009/6/15 Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net: I like the TDM phone option, though too bad you can only get TDM phone with 2 VoIP phone. Did you look at the other CPE options? You know when the Edge10 will be out? ;-) That looks promising. It looks like they're leapfrogging the 2.5 GB PON technology. I'm not sure, but it does look nice. (and pricey) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FTTx
On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: I'm also interested in this information. WiFI and other wireless networking technologies have there place, but fiber does as well. Is there any operational lists for small/medium FTTx providers? Funny you should ask...WISPA is just starting up a new Fiber list as it turns out. It's a WISPA members list. Chuck Mike Hammett wrote: okay, PONs have gotten faster since I last looked. Last I knew they had peaks of a few hundred megs per it's equivalent of an AP. Now it's peak is 2.5 GB and there's a new spec due later this year for maybe 10 GB. I'll open it up to PONs. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FTTx Has anyone here done any FTTx deployments? I'm looking for a non- PON solution. Small scale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
