Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
The thread under the article really does show how poor of a job most of us do in getting our names out. I know in MY case I don't advertise much at all. Our growth already nearly exceeds our cash flow. If I grew much faster I'd grow myself right out of business But still. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
I'm actually 48 but started computer classes in high school, then joined IBM right away. Was fortunate enough to see work on the old generation big iron before it was replaced by newer technology. Of course, new technology has been replaced several times over since I left IBM in '91. Now the latest greatest fits in a rack! -RickG On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:35 PM, CHUCK PROFITO cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: God you are! Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, I upgraded to a PCjr. My first PC was actually a TRS80. Of course, I learned programming on a IBM 29 card punch! Now I feel old! -RickG On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:29 PM, CHUCK PROFITO cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Rick, I think I still have some unprotected 8 floppies around here somewhere I forgot they were a 5150, we have been referring to it as a PC Junior, 64 k of ram with a blazing 8088 at about 5MHz. Am I old or just too experienced? :^) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Rick, I think I still have some unprotected 8 floppies around here somewhere I forgot they were a 5150, we have been referring to it as a PC Junior, 64 k of ram with a blazing 8088 at about 5MHz. Am I old or just too experienced? :^) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Was it the 8080 or 8088 on apollo 13? Maybe the z80... On 2/7/09, CHUCK PROFITO cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Rick, I think I still have some unprotected 8 floppies around here somewhere I forgot they were a 5150, we have been referring to it as a PC Junior, 64 k of ram with a blazing 8088 at about 5MHz. Am I old or just too experienced? :^) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
I was always told it was the same unit but with vibration dampeners'and a hex keypad. Hear say, no facts to back it up. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Was it the 8080 or 8088 on apollo 13? Maybe the z80... On 2/7/09, CHUCK PROFITO cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Rick, I think I still have some unprotected 8 floppies around here somewhere I forgot they were a 5150, we have been referring to it as a PC Junior, 64 k of ram with a blazing 8088 at about 5MHz. Am I old or just too experienced? :^) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
No, not too old. I wish I still had my Commodore VIC20, Commodore 64 and Sinclair SX80. I think the Sinclair was the fast one. It had a 4MHz Z80, which made it the same as a 1MHz 8080. CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Rick, I think I still have some unprotected 8 floppies around here somewhere I forgot they were a 5150, we have been referring to it as a PC Junior, 64 k of ram with a blazing 8088 at about 5MHz. Am I old or just too experienced? :^) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
The junior was a product built for schools mostly. It had an expandable side bus that added card after card. Up to 15 if I recall correctly. Looked like this: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/ibm-pcjr/page_01.htm David Hulsebus CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Rick, I think I still have some unprotected 8 floppies around here somewhere I forgot they were a 5150, we have been referring to it as a PC Junior, 64 k of ram with a blazing 8088 at about 5MHz. Am I old or just too experienced? :^) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
How is any of this thread on topic? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:36:01 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook The junior was a product built for schools mostly. It had an expandable side bus that added card after card. Up to 15 if I recall correctly. Looked like this: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/ibm-pcjr/page_01.htm David Hulsebus CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Rick, I think I still have some unprotected 8 floppies around here somewhere I forgot they were a 5150, we have been referring to it as a PC Junior, 64 k of ram with a blazing 8088 at about 5MHz. Am I old or just too experienced? :^) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Nope. Hand wired from discrete parts on the Apollo's Josh Luthman wrote: Was it the 8080 or 8088 on apollo 13? Maybe the z80... On 2/7/09, CHUCK PROFITO cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Rick, I think I still have some unprotected 8" floppies around here somewhere I forgot they were a 5150, we have been referring to it as a PC Junior, 64 k of ram with a blazing 8088 at about 5MHz. Am I old or just too experienced? :^) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Arc
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
I still have my Atari's and my old NorthStar Horizon... Scott Reed wrote: No, not too old. I wish I still had my Commodore VIC20, Commodore 64 and Sinclair SX80. I think the Sinclair was the fast one. It had a 4MHz Z80, which made it the same as a 1MHz 8080. CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Rick, I think I still have some unprotected 8" floppies around here somewhere I forgot they were a 5150, we have been referring to it as a PC Junior, 64 k of ram with a blazing 8088 at about 5MHz. Am I old or just too experienced? :^) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wisp
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Possibly to show the longevity and durability of IBM products in general ? char...@thewybles.com wrote: How is any of this thread on topic? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:36:01 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook The junior was a product built for schools mostly. It had an expandable side bus that added card after card. Up to 15 if I recall correctly. Looked like this: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/ibm-pcjr/page_01.htm David Hulsebus CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Rick, I think I still have some unprotected 8 floppies around here somewhere I forgot they were a 5150, we have been referring to it as a PC Junior, 64 k of ram with a blazing 8088 at about 5MHz. Am I old or just too experienced? :^) Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
[WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
I have a Computer Store as well as RC-WiFi. The only notebooks I sell as a rule is Lenovo. Have sold probably 50 last year and did not have a single one return for hardware issues. For business they are rock solid. Not big fan of the low end models. Prefer the $700 and up systems. We also repair notebooks. We work on a lot of HP/Compaq. A LOT!! I have to give a lot of HP owners My sales flyer and say sorry. Find a nice deep hole for this one. If you are looking for a Installer laptop truthfully consider the ASUS EEE with WinXP Very small unit 8.9 screen. Winbox, putty, web all work great good battery life, Ethernet and 802.11b/g. Around $400 no CD/DVD to break. Just a small workhorse. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
After seven years, we've got nothing but Thinkpads now. A Dell overheated constantly and frequently shutdown. The Toshiba lost a drive, a power supply, and keycaps. Two HPs (new within the past year) have screen defects...stripes. The Thinkpads just keep on truckin' except for one that dropped. They fixed it in a day no questions asked. The one problem we had for a while with X40 and T43 types was the occurrence of some brighter smudges on the screen...hard to see...but appear to come from external pressure on the top from those who travel and squeeze it into a suitcase. The very slight brighter quarter-sized areas aren't a problem but don't seem to occur on newer models. The Thinkpad X300 is an absolute dream machine...thin like a Macbook Air but has Ethernet, a super-thin DVD writer, and a replaceable battery. It's our company policy now to be sticking with Thinkpads...now, from Lenovo. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:18 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook I have a Computer Store as well as RC-WiFi. The only notebooks I sell as a rule is Lenovo. Have sold probably 50 last year and did not have a single one return for hardware issues. For business they are rock solid. Not big fan of the low end models. Prefer the $700 and up systems. We also repair notebooks. We work on a lot of HP/Compaq. A LOT!! I have to give a lot of HP owners My sales flyer and say sorry. Find a nice deep hole for this one. If you are looking for a Installer laptop truthfully consider the ASUS EEE with WinXP Very small unit 8.9 screen. Winbox, putty, web all work great good battery life, Ethernet and 802.11b/g. Around $400 no CD/DVD to break. Just a small workhorse. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Note that Thinkpad supports their laptops (great stuff!), Lenovo supports their own. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.comwrote: After seven years, we've got nothing but Thinkpads now. A Dell overheated constantly and frequently shutdown. The Toshiba lost a drive, a power supply, and keycaps. Two HPs (new within the past year) have screen defects...stripes. The Thinkpads just keep on truckin' except for one that dropped. They fixed it in a day no questions asked. The one problem we had for a while with X40 and T43 types was the occurrence of some brighter smudges on the screen...hard to see...but appear to come from external pressure on the top from those who travel and squeeze it into a suitcase. The very slight brighter quarter-sized areas aren't a problem but don't seem to occur on newer models. The Thinkpad X300 is an absolute dream machine...thin like a Macbook Air but has Ethernet, a super-thin DVD writer, and a replaceable battery. It's our company policy now to be sticking with Thinkpads...now, from Lenovo. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:18 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook I have a Computer Store as well as RC-WiFi. The only notebooks I sell as a rule is Lenovo. Have sold probably 50 last year and did not have a single one return for hardware issues. For business they are rock solid. Not big fan of the low end models. Prefer the $700 and up systems. We also repair notebooks. We work on a lot of HP/Compaq. A LOT!! I have to give a lot of HP owners My sales flyer and say sorry. Find a nice deep hole for this one. If you are looking for a Installer laptop truthfully consider the ASUS EEE with WinXP Very small unit 8.9 screen. Winbox, putty, web all work great good battery life, Ethernet and 802.11b/g. Around $400 no CD/DVD to break. Just a small workhorse. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Yes, and, in London once, I had a dropped Thinkpad fixed there in a day. Super service in many parts of the world...important for travelers. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Note that Thinkpad supports their laptops (great stuff!), Lenovo supports their own. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.comwrote: After seven years, we've got nothing but Thinkpads now. A Dell overheated constantly and frequently shutdown. The Toshiba lost a drive, a power supply, and keycaps. Two HPs (new within the past year) have screen defects...stripes. The Thinkpads just keep on truckin' except for one that dropped. They fixed it in a day no questions asked. The one problem we had for a while with X40 and T43 types was the occurrence of some brighter smudges on the screen...hard to see...but appear to come from external pressure on the top from those who travel and squeeze it into a suitcase. The very slight brighter quarter-sized areas aren't a problem but don't seem to occur on newer models. The Thinkpad X300 is an absolute dream machine...thin like a Macbook Air but has Ethernet, a super-thin DVD writer, and a replaceable battery. It's our company policy now to be sticking with Thinkpads...now, from Lenovo. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:18 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook I have a Computer Store as well as RC-WiFi. The only notebooks I sell as a rule is Lenovo. Have sold probably 50 last year and did not have a single one return for hardware issues. For business they are rock solid. Not big fan of the low end models. Prefer the $700 and up systems. We also repair notebooks. We work on a lot of HP/Compaq. A LOT!! I have to give a lot of HP owners My sales flyer and say sorry. Find a nice deep hole for this one. If you are looking for a Installer laptop truthfully consider the ASUS EEE with WinXP Very small unit 8.9 screen. Winbox, putty, web all work great good battery life, Ethernet and 802.11b/g. Around $400 no CD/DVD to break. Just a small workhorse. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Those T42s are real workhorses. I can highly recommend new trackpoint rubber head replacements. A new one doesn't slip on a sweaty finger and costs about a dime on eBay if you buy them in lots of 100 (heck, give the rest away). I've got my 750, 755, two of the butterfly keyboard units - 701s, 240, 560s, two 600s, 5 760s of various series, T-20s thru T43s, X20-30-40-41s, and an X300...the 750s and 701s come from the early 90s. They all work...still. I know, I was dumb not to sell them on eBay when they were worth something. Now they just sit there. But, they make me happy. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
They're the bricks to the nerd cave! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.comwrote: Those T42s are real workhorses. I can highly recommend new trackpoint rubber head replacements. A new one doesn't slip on a sweaty finger and costs about a dime on eBay if you buy them in lots of 100 (heck, give the rest away). I've got my 750, 755, two of the butterfly keyboard units - 701s, 240, 560s, two 600s, 5 760s of various series, T-20s thru T43s, X20-30-40-41s, and an X300...the 750s and 701s come from the early 90s. They all work...still. I know, I was dumb not to sell them on eBay when they were worth something. Now they just sit there. But, they make me happy. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Yeah...don't make me feel bad... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook They're the bricks to the nerd cave! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.comwrote: Those T42s are real workhorses. I can highly recommend new trackpoint rubber head replacements. A new one doesn't slip on a sweaty finger and costs about a dime on eBay if you buy them in lots of 100 (heck, give the rest away). I've got my 750, 755, two of the butterfly keyboard units - 701s, 240, 560s, two 600s, 5 760s of various series, T-20s thru T43s, X20-30-40-41s, and an X300...the 750s and 701s come from the early 90s. They all work...still. I know, I was dumb not to sell them on eBay when they were worth something. Now they just sit there. But, they make me happy. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry --- -- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- -- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Don't! It's something to be proud of! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.comwrote: Yeah...don't make me feel bad... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook They're the bricks to the nerd cave! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.comwrote: Those T42s are real workhorses. I can highly recommend new trackpoint rubber head replacements. A new one doesn't slip on a sweaty finger and costs about a dime on eBay if you buy them in lots of 100 (heck, give the rest away). I've got my 750, 755, two of the butterfly keyboard units - 701s, 240, 560s, two 600s, 5 760s of various series, T-20s thru T43s, X20-30-40-41s, and an X300...the 750s and 701s come from the early 90s. They all work...still. I know, I was dumb not to sell them on eBay when they were worth something. Now they just sit there. But, they make me happy. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry --- -- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- -- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
I think everyone is missing netbook vs. notebook. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:00 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook
Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have an old PIII in use as a terminal on one of our racks. They get carried onto roofs, up water tanks, have been dropped from short distance and have never failed to perform when picked back up. I'll echo John, I could have paid more but a year old processor does what I need. And yes, I also have one of the A31 series that runs Ubuntu. Works very well as a workstation around the office. I absolutely love the trackpoint. I have issues with the trackpad and sweat on my fingers in the summer, it makes moving the pointer a problem for me. I bought two T42 series last month coming off lease for $250 each for installation work. David Hulsebus Portative Technologies www.portative.com Josh Luthman wrote: I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed. There are touch sensitive buttons for media, the screen has NO latch to break (it's magnetic or part of the hinge). The keyboard isn't quite Thinkpad goodness but is still better then most. The screen is awfully reflective. Battery LEDs on the chassis itself is also a bonus. Great specs for an installer. Also I should note Butch Evans has used a Lenovo for years - he has proven his laptop works quite well as a Linux workstation. I only wish I could make that leap. For $500 I couldn't be happier - I need to get one myself (ethernet port fried) but I need it dock capable. Not sure if Lenovo offers that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
