RE: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-06-10 Thread Smith, Rick
Deliberant has a nice cpe now in the 2714 model.

Using it in a few places - more stable / better throughput than the
tranzeo equivs

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

Mike - I've had horrible luck with the High Gain products in the past.
Also 
ran into some customer service issues when we had a problem with
them.. 
I won't rehash on here but feel free to contact me offlist...

I'd highly suggest to continue using Mikrotik or Tranzeo - I've had
problems 
with Tranzeo products too, as well as some versions of MT software, but 
nothing compares to the aggrivation I had in dealing with High Gain.

The out of the box Tranzeo CPEs for the price have seemed to be the most

stable / reliable low cost CPE we've used thus far.

JohnnyO

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From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE


I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work.  Just a FYI.  We also
 waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

 Has anyone used this before?

 I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my
 customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

 Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme
clients,
 I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to
me
 the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

 What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the
pictures)?
 Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a
 flat-mount solution.


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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-06-10 Thread Tim Wolfe
I currently use both Deliberant and Highgain products without any 
issues. I mean, don't get me wrong, I have had some very simple problems 
with both vendors, but all of it was corrected ASAP. The only way I will 
use Tranzeo is for their 5Ghz units, as I have a bunch of them deployed 
as backhauls. I had tried Tranzeo units in the past for CPE's, but the 
firmware issues drove me nuts. The Deliberant units have all been rock 
solid and do what they are supposed to do, keep my customers online. The 
Highgain units have been great too. The OSBridge gear he sells works 
really well, as I have a few 5Gxi units in place for both backhaul in 
the 5.8Ghz range and PtmP in the 5.2Ghz range. These units are small and 
light weight , almost to the point of looking and feeling cheesey , 
but yet they keep right on rolling along, so I guess looks are 
deceiving?. The price point from these two vendors is also hard to beat. 
The DLB units are around $150 each and the HighGain units can be had for 
$99 each. I guess each person has their own opinion about how things 
work. My luck is usually really bad, as most everything I touch seems to 
fall apart and break (Maybe that was just a SmartBridges curse?, LOL!)


I  have a pair of the OSBridge full duplex backhaul units on order, and 
I am anxious to see how well they perform?. I am hoping to get around 
30Mb each way with them, so I guess we will see how they do?.

http://www.highgainantennas.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=5GXTShow=TechSpecs


Smith, Rick wrote:

Deliberant has a nice cpe now in the 2714 model.

Using it in a few places - more stable / better throughput than the
tranzeo equivs

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

Mike - I've had horrible luck with the High Gain products in the past.
Also 
ran into some customer service issues when we had a problem with
them.. 
I won't rehash on here but feel free to contact me offlist...


I'd highly suggest to continue using Mikrotik or Tranzeo - I've had
problems 
with Tranzeo products too, as well as some versions of MT software, but 
nothing compares to the aggrivation I had in dealing with High Gain.


The out of the box Tranzeo CPEs for the price have seemed to be the most

stable / reliable low cost CPE we've used thus far.

JohnnyO

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From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE


  

I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work.  Just a FYI.  We also
waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order.

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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

Has anyone used this before?

I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my
customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme


clients,
  

I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to


me
  

the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the


pictures)?
  

Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a
flat-mount solution.


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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-06-09 Thread JohnnyO
Mike - I've had horrible luck with the High Gain products in the past. Also 
ran into some customer service issues when we had a problem with them.. 
I won't rehash on here but feel free to contact me offlist...


I'd highly suggest to continue using Mikrotik or Tranzeo - I've had problems 
with Tranzeo products too, as well as some versions of MT software, but 
nothing compares to the aggrivation I had in dealing with High Gain.


The out of the box Tranzeo CPEs for the price have seemed to be the most 
stable / reliable low cost CPE we've used thus far.


JohnnyO

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE



I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work.  Just a FYI.  We also
waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

Has anyone used this before?

I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my
customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme clients,
I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to me
the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the pictures)?
Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a
flat-mount solution.


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[WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-05-17 Thread Mike Hammett
Has anyone used this before?

I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my 
customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme clients, I'm 
looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to me the High 
Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the pictures)?  
Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a 
flat-mount solution.


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RE: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-05-17 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work.  Just a FYI.  We also
waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

Has anyone used this before?

I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my
customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme clients,
I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to me
the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the pictures)?
Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a
flat-mount solution.


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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-05-17 Thread Mike Hammett

What cheap CPE would you recommend, then?

802.11g, outdoor, integrated

Going 150' through a couple trees to the house from the shop.  At the house 
is a MT RB112 that is a 5 GHz CPE and planning on being an 802.11g AP with 
an 8 dbi omni.



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- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE



I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work.  Just a FYI.  We also
waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

Has anyone used this before?

I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my
customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme clients,
I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to me
the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the pictures)?
Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a
flat-mount solution.


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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-05-17 Thread Sam Tetherow
They are a standard universal mount.  My biggest gripe is the fact that 
you have to order them Vertical vs Horizontal due to the ethernet 
passthrough.  I have had issues with them disconnecting from the tower 
but they do have a watchdog feature which will reboot them when they do.


   Sam Tetherow
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Mike Hammett wrote:

Has anyone used this before?

I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my 
customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme clients, I'm 
looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to me the High 
Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the pictures)?  
Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a 
flat-mount solution.


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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-05-17 Thread Sam Tetherow
Did you call to RMA them? I do know that they had a batch that had bad 
boards in them. I guess the board manufacturer changed something on the 
board, but didn't notify them of the change.


Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless

Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote:

I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work.  Just a FYI.  We also
waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order.  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

Has anyone used this before?

I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my
customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme clients,
I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to me
the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the pictures)?
Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a
flat-mount solution.


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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-05-17 Thread Dennis Burgess

Another MT would be great, we constantly use TenX Radios from Jeffco SOHO,
250mw at 19db, for around 240 or so.  Every feature needed is in it, DHCP,
NAT, BW Shaping, throttling, borrowed BW, B/G too.

Thats what we use as they work, and also helps that Jeffco is about 5 min
from my house! lol

We just had bad luck with High Gains, maybe they will work for you, they
mostly worked out of the box.Put them up for a month or so, and caput.

Dennis



On 5/17/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What cheap CPE would you recommend, then?

802.11g, outdoor, integrated

Going 150' through a couple trees to the house from the shop.  At the
house
is a MT RB112 that is a 5 GHz CPE and planning on being an 802.11g AP with
an 8 dbi omni.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


- Original Message -
From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE


I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work.  Just a FYI.  We also
 waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

 Has anyone used this before?

 I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my
 customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

 Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme
clients,
 I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to
me
 the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

 What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the
pictures)?
 Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a
 flat-mount solution.


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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-05-17 Thread Dennis Burgess

We did, however, no one got back to us.  ... We did try one of their 800mw
APs just to check it out, powered it up , poof, smoke. so..

Like I said, just my experience, but remember, a great product you may tell
1 person about, a bad experience with a great product, you will tell
everyone about..




On 5/17/07, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Did you call to RMA them? I do know that they had a batch that had bad
boards in them. I guess the board manufacturer changed something on the
board, but didn't notify them of the change.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless

Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote:
 I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work.  Just a FYI.  We also
 waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

 Has anyone used this before?

 I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my
 customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

 Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme
clients,
 I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to
me
 the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

 What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the
pictures)?
 Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a
 flat-mount solution.


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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-05-17 Thread Mike Hammett

These are $126 after SH.  :-p

I'm at about $195 + SH for MT units.


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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE



Another MT would be great, we constantly use TenX Radios from Jeffco SOHO,
250mw at 19db, for around 240 or so.  Every feature needed is in it, DHCP,
NAT, BW Shaping, throttling, borrowed BW, B/G too.

Thats what we use as they work, and also helps that Jeffco is about 5 min
from my house! lol

We just had bad luck with High Gains, maybe they will work for you, they
mostly worked out of the box.Put them up for a month or so, and caput.

Dennis



On 5/17/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What cheap CPE would you recommend, then?

802.11g, outdoor, integrated

Going 150' through a couple trees to the house from the shop.  At the
house
is a MT RB112 that is a 5 GHz CPE and planning on being an 802.11g AP 
with

an 8 dbi omni.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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- Original Message -
From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE


I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work.  Just a FYI.  We also
 waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

 Has anyone used this before?

 I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my
 customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

 Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme
clients,
 I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to
me
 the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

 What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the
pictures)?
 Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a
 flat-mount solution.


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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-05-17 Thread Dennis Burgess

Yep, I understand.  When I needed radios, and I had to wait a month to get
them, and when I called and they said thye would be here within a day or two
and they did not come, etc.   I don't mind paying for the radios as right
now I am buy one, and its done.



On 5/17/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


These are $126 after SH.  :-p

I'm at about $195 + SH for MT units.


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- Original Message -
From: Dennis Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE


 Another MT would be great, we constantly use TenX Radios from Jeffco
SOHO,
 250mw at 19db, for around 240 or so.  Every feature needed is in it,
DHCP,
 NAT, BW Shaping, throttling, borrowed BW, B/G too.

 Thats what we use as they work, and also helps that Jeffco is about 5
min
 from my house! lol

 We just had bad luck with High Gains, maybe they will work for you, they
 mostly worked out of the box.Put them up for a month or so, and
caput.

 Dennis



 On 5/17/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What cheap CPE would you recommend, then?

 802.11g, outdoor, integrated

 Going 150' through a couple trees to the house from the shop.  At the
 house
 is a MT RB112 that is a 5 GHz CPE and planning on being an 802.11g AP
 with
 an 8 dbi omni.


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 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 - Original Message -
 From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:32 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE


 I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work.  Just a FYI.  We
also
  waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order.
 
  -Original Message-
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On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE
 
  Has anyone used this before?
 
  I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save
my
  customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of
theirs.
 
  Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme
 clients,
  I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested
to
 me
  the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.
 
  What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the
 pictures)?
  Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a
  flat-mount solution.
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE

2007-05-17 Thread Jeromie Reeves

They work well enough as CPE. As an AP they keep racking up to 65
users then stop passing anything higher then ICMP (wont pass 250 byte
http but will 1500 icmp, tested with packet crafting and wireshark).
Does not matter if wep, wpa, allow or deny list is used but 65 clients
is the magic number. Once I got them working on my atheros AP's they
settled down. They  watchdog them selves every 24~48 hours and need a
hard cycle once a week. Also they seam better if you back them off a
few power settings.

On 5/17/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone used this before?

I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my 
customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs.

Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme clients, I'm 
looking at moving to 802.11g for everything.  Someone suggested to me the High 
Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal.

What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the pictures)?  
Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a 
flat-mount solution.


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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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