Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network
Doesn't Juniper change their model numbers and names for different countries too? It's really hard to compare hardware when the product numbers change from country to country! On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Courtney Smith courtneysm...@comcast.netwrote: On Jan 26, 2012, at 1:00 PM, wireless-requ...@wispa.org wrote: -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:25:37 -0500 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original With that said, We've been looking into Juniper lately, I like that their new lines are all based on the same Juno OS, which is Linux. :-) So, my recommendation is... What are you familiar with? Use that. I'm not familiar with the Juniper model and foundry products listed to know if that is a good product to keep or not. Actually BSD. And I believe JunOS has always been based on BSD. Not a recent thing. Just my opinion here. If a network engineer understand the protocols, learning the vendor's OS is not a big deal. But I get how folks develop a comfort sticking with 1 vendor. -- Robert Q Kim Technical Chinese Korean English Translator http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QozAHbUS-VU 2611 S Coast Highway San Diego, CA 92007 310 598 1606 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network
Hi Akin, Better to get a purpose built network appliance like the powerrouter if you need the extra horsepower, don't want to thrash HP, they make great servers but the fewer moving parts you have on your routers the better - - - - - Olufemi Adalemo On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe aajayi...@as-technologies.com wrote: Thanks. Thrashing the Juniper just seems to be a waste. I guess I will use an Intel CPU. Probably an HP DL120 with 2 GB RAM. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:25:37 To: aajayi...@as-technologies.com; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network I had a fun converstation the other day... The consultant advisor's optinion was the Linux should be replaced with Cisco, on the merit that a soultion was needed that was well known, so investors would feel more comfortable knowing that operating the network didn't have to rely on me. Then we discussed to operate the Cisco, we would need to hire a $150k per year Cisco engineer, at a cost 4x above the previous year's operating cost. So I responded questioning the consultant, so you are saying we need build a network that relies on a high salary individual other than I? So then if the network breaks, I'd be helpless, and I'd be in deep trouble, if the Network engineer quit or asked for another raise? The advise didn't sit well with me, and it had nothing to do with a technology comparison of the two products types, and I in no way mean to downplay the value of Cisco. My point here is... The most effective router is really the one that the user is most familiar with. It doesn't matter how powerful the Cisco, Juniper and foundry are, if you and your techs dont know how to operate them, when you need to on a moments notice. Its really about, which selection will allow you to more easilly and speedily resolve the task at hand. Its amazing how a $400 Linux Box (such as MIkrotik) can quickly solve a problem. With that said, We've been looking into Juniper lately, I like that their new lines are all based on the same Juno OS, which is Linux. :-) So, my recommendation is... What are you familiar with? Use that. I'm not familiar with the Juniper model and foundry products listed to know if that is a good product to keep or not. What I will say is, if uysing MIktotik, you want to consider more than jsut number of subs. What speed is the Internet backbone the MT would connect to? How would you plan to use the Mikrotik, from a protocol feature perspective? A MT1100 will easilly push 100mb FDX traffic. But if you plan on having a lot of queuing and rules (x200 users), it can be slowed down very quickly. In those cases, its worth paying an extra $200-$400, to upgrade to one of the faster CPUcore type third party hardware models, such as sold by Baltic, Titan, or LinkTechnologies. A Dual core INtel 1.5G-2.4Ghz CPU model are very affordble and adds some horsepower for using MT features. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe aajayi...@as-technologies.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network I just took over an abandoned network which I have to get up and running in no time. There's a Juniper J2300, ISG 1000 and some foundry switches. Wondering whether to trash the equipment and put in an MT RB1100 in? We won't have more than 200 users at the peak. Need suggestions. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network
I've been looking around at network appliance vendors (the people that make the commercialized hardware that these guys build their platforms off of) to find some with more power. There are a lot of people out there making a lot of these things. So far the biggest I've found can do 16x 10GigE and the vendor says the platform is able to move that much, assuming there isn't a lot of other work going on. He said each SandyBridge core can do a 10GigE Full Duplex. Dual CPUs with 8 cores mean that it can do all 10gigE ports. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/26/2012 6:01 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote: Hi Akin, Better to get a purpose built network appliance like the powerrouter if you need the extra horsepower, don't want to thrash HP, they make great servers but the fewer moving parts you have on your routers the better - - - - - Olufemi Adalemo On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe aajayi...@as-technologies.com mailto:aajayi...@as-technologies.com wrote: Thanks. Thrashing the Juniper just seems to be a waste. I guess I will use an Intel CPU. Probably an HP DL120 with 2 GB RAM. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:25:37 To: aajayi...@as-technologies.com mailto:aajayi...@as-technologies.com; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network I had a fun converstation the other day... The consultant advisor's optinion was the Linux should be replaced with Cisco, on the merit that a soultion was needed that was well known, so investors would feel more comfortable knowing that operating the network didn't have to rely on me. Then we discussed to operate the Cisco, we would need to hire a $150k per year Cisco engineer, at a cost 4x above the previous year's operating cost. So I responded questioning the consultant, so you are saying we need build a network that relies on a high salary individual other than I? So then if the network breaks, I'd be helpless, and I'd be in deep trouble, if the Network engineer quit or asked for another raise? The advise didn't sit well with me, and it had nothing to do with a technology comparison of the two products types, and I in no way mean to downplay the value of Cisco. My point here is... The most effective router is really the one that the user is most familiar with. It doesn't matter how powerful the Cisco, Juniper and foundry are, if you and your techs dont know how to operate them, when you need to on a moments notice. Its really about, which selection will allow you to more easilly and speedily resolve the task at hand. Its amazing how a $400 Linux Box (such as MIkrotik) can quickly solve a problem. With that said, We've been looking into Juniper lately, I like that their new lines are all based on the same Juno OS, which is Linux. :-) So, my recommendation is... What are you familiar with? Use that. I'm not familiar with the Juniper model and foundry products listed to know if that is a good product to keep or not. What I will say is, if uysing MIktotik, you want to consider more than jsut number of subs. What speed is the Internet backbone the MT would connect to? How would you plan to use the Mikrotik, from a protocol feature perspective? A MT1100 will easilly push 100mb FDX traffic. But if you plan on having a lot of queuing and rules (x200 users), it can be slowed down very quickly. In those cases, its worth paying an extra $200-$400, to upgrade to one of the faster CPUcore type third party hardware models, such as sold by Baltic, Titan, or LinkTechnologies. A Dual core INtel 1.5G-2.4Ghz CPU model are very affordble and adds some horsepower for using MT features. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe aajayi...@as-technologies.com mailto:aajayi...@as-technologies.com To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network I just took over an abandoned network which I have to get up and running in no time. There's a Juniper J2300, ISG 1000 and some foundry switches. Wondering whether to trash the equipment and put in an MT RB1100 in? We won't have more than 200 users at the peak. Need suggestions. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027
Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:25:37 -0500, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: --SNIP-- With that said, We've been looking into Juniper lately, I like that their new lines are all based on the same Juno OS, which is Linux. :-) --SNIP-- Junos is not Linux, but is a set of processes that run on top of a FreeBSD kernel. It's quite similar to IOS-XE in that regard, where the Cisco IOS process runs from within Linux. The Junos process 'rpd' is almost an operating system in itself - it has it's own scheduling and memory management and doesn't use the operating system for that. -Jonesy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network
On Jan 26, 2012, at 1:00 PM, wireless-requ...@wispa.org wrote: -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:25:37 -0500 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network To: aajayi...@as-technologies.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Message-ID: d12a71b9f8f94b0fb382cca24e768...@rapiddsl.net Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original With that said, We've been looking into Juniper lately, I like that their new lines are all based on the same Juno OS, which is Linux. :-) So, my recommendation is... What are you familiar with? Use that. I'm not familiar with the Juniper model and foundry products listed to know if that is a good product to keep or not. Actually BSD. And I believe JunOS has always been based on BSD. Not a recent thing. Just my opinion here. If a network engineer understand the protocols, learning the vendor's OS is not a big deal. But I get how folks develop a comfort sticking with 1 vendor. Courtney Smith courtneysm...@comcast.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network
I just took over an abandoned network which I have to get up and running in no time. There's a Juniper J2300, ISG 1000 and some foundry switches. Wondering whether to trash the equipment and put in an MT RB1100 in? We won't have more than 200 users at the peak. Need suggestions. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: wireless-requ...@wispa.org Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:00:06 To: wireless@wispa.org Reply-To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Wireless Digest, Vol 49, Issue 22 Send Wireless mailing list submissions to wireless@wispa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wireless-requ...@wispa.org You can reach the person managing the list at wireless-ow...@wispa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wireless digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: If radios act weird today... (~V~) 2. Re: If radios act weird today... (Jim Patient) 3. Re: If radios act weird today... (~V~) 4. Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 5. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Sam Tetherow) 6. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 7. Re: If radios act weird today... (Tom DeReggi) 8. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 9. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Jeromie Reeves) 10. Solution for high bandwidth semi-mobile link (cj sattler) 11. Re: Solution for high bandwidth semi-mobile link (Gino Villarini) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:21:17 -0600 From: ~V~ li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today... To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Message-ID: 001e01ccdac4$f74fa960$e5eefc20$@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am wearing it! ;-) And doesn't it have to be made of tin foil? :p ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:45 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today... Oh man...where is my aluminum foil hat!!! On 01/24/2012 09:57 AM, ~V~ wrote: Check out the incoming particles this bad boy is bringing. http://youtu.be/01SEGNfK_58 ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today... Same. It could eventually happen, but I haven't seen any consequence of it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/24/2012 8:08 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: YAWN. I have yet to see a solar flare cause issues not saying it won't... just saying the news media blows this stuff up every time. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/24/12 8:53 AM, Bret Clark wrote: Solar flare blasts radiation storm toward Earth http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57364089-76/solar-flare-blasts-radiation-s torm-toward-earth/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network
hehe.. that is like saying... I you want to change out an existing fleet of Mercedes 350's for a Toyota Corollas !... nothing wrong in doing that if your justification is valid.. Just make sure that what you replace with is capable to handling the load. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 1/25/2012 2:09 PM, Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe wrote: I just took over an abandoned network which I have to get up and running in no time. There's a Juniper J2300, ISG 1000 and some foundry switches. Wondering whether to trash the equipment and put in an MT RB1100 in? We won't have more than 200 users at the peak. Need suggestions. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: wireless-requ...@wispa.org Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:00:06 To:wireless@wispa.org Reply-To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Wireless Digest, Vol 49, Issue 22 Send Wireless mailing list submissions to wireless@wispa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wireless-requ...@wispa.org You can reach the person managing the list at wireless-ow...@wispa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wireless digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: If radios act weird today... (~V~) 2. Re: If radios act weird today... (Jim Patient) 3. Re: If radios act weird today... (~V~) 4. Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 5. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Sam Tetherow) 6. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 7. Re: If radios act weird today... (Tom DeReggi) 8. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 9. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Jeromie Reeves) 10. Solution for high bandwidth semi-mobile link (cj sattler) 11. Re: Solution for high bandwidth semi-mobile link (Gino Villarini) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:21:17 -0600 From: ~V~li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today... To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Message-ID:001e01ccdac4$f74fa960$e5eefc20$@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am wearing it! ;-) And doesn't it have to be made of tin foil? :p ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:45 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today... Oh man...where is my aluminum foil hat!!! On 01/24/2012 09:57 AM, ~V~ wrote: Check out the incoming particles this bad boy is bringing. http://youtu.be/01SEGNfK_58 ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today... Same. It could eventually happen, but I haven't seen any consequence of it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/24/2012 8:08 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: YAWN. I have yet to see a solar flare cause issues not saying it won't... just saying the news media blows this stuff up every time. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/24/12 8:53 AM, Bret Clark wrote: Solar flare blasts radiation storm toward Earth http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57364089-76/solar-flare-blasts-radiation-s torm-toward-earth/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network
I had a fun converstation the other day... The consultant advisor's optinion was the Linux should be replaced with Cisco, on the merit that a soultion was needed that was well known, so investors would feel more comfortable knowing that operating the network didn't have to rely on me. Then we discussed to operate the Cisco, we would need to hire a $150k per year Cisco engineer, at a cost 4x above the previous year's operating cost. So I responded questioning the consultant, so you are saying we need build a network that relies on a high salary individual other than I? So then if the network breaks, I'd be helpless, and I'd be in deep trouble, if the Network engineer quit or asked for another raise? The advise didn't sit well with me, and it had nothing to do with a technology comparison of the two products types, and I in no way mean to downplay the value of Cisco. My point here is... The most effective router is really the one that the user is most familiar with. It doesn't matter how powerful the Cisco, Juniper and foundry are, if you and your techs dont know how to operate them, when you need to on a moments notice. Its really about, which selection will allow you to more easilly and speedily resolve the task at hand. Its amazing how a $400 Linux Box (such as MIkrotik) can quickly solve a problem. With that said, We've been looking into Juniper lately, I like that their new lines are all based on the same Juno OS, which is Linux. :-) So, my recommendation is... What are you familiar with? Use that. I'm not familiar with the Juniper model and foundry products listed to know if that is a good product to keep or not. What I will say is, if uysing MIktotik, you want to consider more than jsut number of subs. What speed is the Internet backbone the MT would connect to? How would you plan to use the Mikrotik, from a protocol feature perspective? A MT1100 will easilly push 100mb FDX traffic. But if you plan on having a lot of queuing and rules (x200 users), it can be slowed down very quickly. In those cases, its worth paying an extra $200-$400, to upgrade to one of the faster CPUcore type third party hardware models, such as sold by Baltic, Titan, or LinkTechnologies. A Dual core INtel 1.5G-2.4Ghz CPU model are very affordble and adds some horsepower for using MT features. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe aajayi...@as-technologies.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network I just took over an abandoned network which I have to get up and running in no time. There's a Juniper J2300, ISG 1000 and some foundry switches. Wondering whether to trash the equipment and put in an MT RB1100 in? We won't have more than 200 users at the peak. Need suggestions. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: wireless-requ...@wispa.org Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:00:06 To: wireless@wispa.org Reply-To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Wireless Digest, Vol 49, Issue 22 Send Wireless mailing list submissions to wireless@wispa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wireless-requ...@wispa.org You can reach the person managing the list at wireless-ow...@wispa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wireless digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: If radios act weird today... (~V~) 2. Re: If radios act weird today... (Jim Patient) 3. Re: If radios act weird today... (~V~) 4. Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 5. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Sam Tetherow) 6. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 7. Re: If radios act weird today... (Tom DeReggi) 8. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 9. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Jeromie Reeves) 10. Solution for high bandwidth semi-mobile link (cj sattler) 11. Re: Solution for high bandwidth semi-mobile link (Gino Villarini) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:21:17 -0600 From: ~V~ li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] If radios act weird today... To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Message-ID: 001e01ccdac4$f74fa960$e5eefc20$@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am wearing it! ;-) And doesn't it have to be made of tin foil? :p ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:45 AM To: wireless
Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network
Thanks. Thrashing the Juniper just seems to be a waste. I guess I will use an Intel CPU. Probably an HP DL120 with 2 GB RAM. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:25:37 To: aajayi...@as-technologies.com; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network I had a fun converstation the other day... The consultant advisor's optinion was the Linux should be replaced with Cisco, on the merit that a soultion was needed that was well known, so investors would feel more comfortable knowing that operating the network didn't have to rely on me. Then we discussed to operate the Cisco, we would need to hire a $150k per year Cisco engineer, at a cost 4x above the previous year's operating cost. So I responded questioning the consultant, so you are saying we need build a network that relies on a high salary individual other than I? So then if the network breaks, I'd be helpless, and I'd be in deep trouble, if the Network engineer quit or asked for another raise? The advise didn't sit well with me, and it had nothing to do with a technology comparison of the two products types, and I in no way mean to downplay the value of Cisco. My point here is... The most effective router is really the one that the user is most familiar with. It doesn't matter how powerful the Cisco, Juniper and foundry are, if you and your techs dont know how to operate them, when you need to on a moments notice. Its really about, which selection will allow you to more easilly and speedily resolve the task at hand. Its amazing how a $400 Linux Box (such as MIkrotik) can quickly solve a problem. With that said, We've been looking into Juniper lately, I like that their new lines are all based on the same Juno OS, which is Linux. :-) So, my recommendation is... What are you familiar with? Use that. I'm not familiar with the Juniper model and foundry products listed to know if that is a good product to keep or not. What I will say is, if uysing MIktotik, you want to consider more than jsut number of subs. What speed is the Internet backbone the MT would connect to? How would you plan to use the Mikrotik, from a protocol feature perspective? A MT1100 will easilly push 100mb FDX traffic. But if you plan on having a lot of queuing and rules (x200 users), it can be slowed down very quickly. In those cases, its worth paying an extra $200-$400, to upgrade to one of the faster CPUcore type third party hardware models, such as sold by Baltic, Titan, or LinkTechnologies. A Dual core INtel 1.5G-2.4Ghz CPU model are very affordble and adds some horsepower for using MT features. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe aajayi...@as-technologies.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network I just took over an abandoned network which I have to get up and running in no time. There's a Juniper J2300, ISG 1000 and some foundry switches. Wondering whether to trash the equipment and put in an MT RB1100 in? We won't have more than 200 users at the peak. Need suggestions. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: wireless-requ...@wispa.org Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:00:06 To: wireless@wispa.org Reply-To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Wireless Digest, Vol 49, Issue 22 Send Wireless mailing list submissions to wireless@wispa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wireless-requ...@wispa.org You can reach the person managing the list at wireless-ow...@wispa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wireless digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: If radios act weird today... (~V~) 2. Re: If radios act weird today... (Jim Patient) 3. Re: If radios act weird today... (~V~) 4. Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 5. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Sam Tetherow) 6. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 7. Re: If radios act weird today... (Tom DeReggi) 8. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Ben West) 9. Re: Engenius hardware from Microcenter (don't do it!) (Jeromie Reeves) 10. Solution for high bandwidth semi-mobile link (cj sattler) 11. Re: Solution for high bandwidth semi-mobile link (Gino Villarini) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:21:17 -0600 From: ~V~ li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] If radios act
