Re: [WISPA] Justice Department Takes Aim at Image-Sharing Sites
If you ALL joined one organization you would have a well-funded group to fight this. But most ISP's, WISP's, Hosts, and VoIP Providers don't pay for membership any where. Great at bitching. Champion, PhD bitching, but actually put up time and money to make one single org work, not so much. This industry - if you can even call it that - has a myriad of organizations mainly due to strong independent feelings. So instead of one really strong group representing, you have a scattering of smaller, less powerful associations. AASP, FISPA, Part-15, WISPA, TISPA, et al. CLEC's used to have that problem with ALTS, ASCENT and a couple of others. Now they have just enough members for one - one really weak one. - Peter wispa wrote: Excellent analogy. The difference being that there's WalMart and Kmart and hundreds of other well funded retailers with lawyers who'll tell them to stuff it. The little guys get nailed instead, because we haven't got a raft of lawyers waiting around on retainer for something to do. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Justice Department Takes Aim at Image-Sharing Sites
Wouldn't this be the equivalent of requiring all store owners to install surveillance cameras and retain the tapes for 2 years just in case law enforcement might need the footage for a conviction of some crime that may happen in the future? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Jack Unger wrote: http://news.com.com/Justice+Department+takes+aim+at+image-sharing+sites/2100-1028_3-6163679.html?tag=nefd.lede -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Justice Department Takes Aim at Image-Sharing Sites
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:41:29 -0600, Sam Tetherow wrote Wouldn't this be the equivalent of requiring all store owners to install surveillance cameras and retain the tapes for 2 years just in case law enforcement might need the footage for a conviction of some crime that may happen in the future? Excellent analogy. The difference being that there's WalMart and Kmart and hundreds of other well funded retailers with lawyers who'll tell them to stuff it. The little guys get nailed instead, because we haven't got a raft of lawyers waiting around on retainer for something to do. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Justice Department Takes Aim at Image-Sharing Sites
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/3/ Sam Tetherow wrote: Wouldn't this be the equivalent of requiring all store owners to install surveillance cameras and retain the tapes for 2 years just in case law enforcement might need the footage for a conviction of some crime that may happen in the future? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Jack Unger wrote: http://news.com.com/Justice+Department+takes+aim+at+image-sharing+sites/2100-1028_3-6163679.html?tag=nefd.lede -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Justice Department Takes Aim at Image-Sharing Sites
http://news.com.com/Justice+Department+takes+aim+at+image-sharing+sites/2100-1028_3-6163679.html?tag=nefd.lede -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Justice Department Takes Aim at Image-Sharing Sites
yeah interesting quote... Only universities and libraries would be excluded, one participant said. There's a PR concern with including the libraries, so we're not going to include them, the participant quoted the Justice Department as saying. We know we're going to get a pushback, so we're not going to do that. How about we push back ? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:57 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Justice Department Takes Aim at Image-Sharing Sites http://news.com.com/Justice+Department+takes+aim+at+image-sharing+sites/2100 -1028_3-6163679.html?tag=nefd.lede -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Justice Department Takes Aim at Image-Sharing Sites
Yeah, I noticed that too. marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Justice Department Takes Aim at Image-Sharing Sites yeah interesting quote... Only universities and libraries would be excluded, one participant said. There's a PR concern with including the libraries, so we're not going to include them, the participant quoted the Justice Department as saying. We know we're going to get a pushback, so we're not going to do that. How about we push back ? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:57 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Justice Department Takes Aim at Image-Sharing Sites http://news.com.com/Justice+Department+takes+aim+at+image-sharing+sites/2100 -1028_3-6163679.html?tag=nefd.lede -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
