Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
Hello, This doesn't help you out immediately, but I've actually been working on web-based management software (PHP/MySQL) for quite some time that handles this and much more (like was suggested here, its done using freeradius). Besides controlling access to your Mikrotik routers for management, it also has: * Top level leads / accounts management (client details, address, contacts, service locations, etc) * PPPoE account management * Dialup account management * IP provisioning for CPE * Real-Time SNMP/HTTP polling of Mikrotik, Canopy, CB3, Ubiquiti NS/PS access points and client devices. * Real-Time SNMP polling of Mikrotik routers * Real-time comparison of provisioning data (per-AP based) to active connections (shows you who is up, down, or is an unknown connection) * A basic ticketing system for towers and accounts * Hierarchical management of network assets (Towers, Routers, Access Points, etc). * Per-tower photo and file storage And more. Not fully decided, but will likely be releasing the code under GPLv3 license once I have the code cleaned up some, and some additional features buttoned up. I'm still developing heavily on it to meet my own desired rich-feature set. Some slightly outdated screenshots that at least present a general idea are available here: http://members.wisperhome.com/iane/norm/ Ian Ellison CTO, Wisper ISP Scott Reed wrote: Radius. You can make groups in Radius that map to groups on the routers. You can then make groups on the router for the specific functions you want the user to have. First the MT will check locally for the user. If that fails, it will check Radius. Thus, you can have an ID on the MT to ensure some has access, but let Radius to the normal authenication. Gino Villarini wrote: Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 5:31 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
Another way to get around all this is to use the MikroTik API. http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/API Has some learning curve and requires coding but turns out a clear solution. Thank you Dimitri You could setup a simple linux box running freeradius to do this. Takes just a little time and the cost of the machine. Actually you could just install vmware on a windows workstation and install Linux with freeradius on it and your cost is just your time to do it. Or you can hire a consultant to get this setup. I would estimate that it would only take a couple of hours for one of my guys to do that. While at it you could also get The Dude installed under Wine or install a copy of Intermapper to do the monitoring and quick launch of winbox/ssh/web login to your cpe and devices. If you need help with this you could call us and Scott or me could help you out. /Eje CTO WISP-Router, Inc /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:28:44 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; wa4...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control Does anyone do this? If so what are you using for RADIUS? I have been wanting to do this for some time now but haven't gotten around to it :( On 1/31/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: With the Dude, you could create a map, export it which gives a XML file. Edit the XML to get rid of UserID and Password. Distribute the file to all who can see the network. They just put their own UserID and Password in the first time they access a router. Now they can customize the maps as they desire, but the core devices are already populated. Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: Scott has a good idea. Combine that with the Dude and it works nice. Another thing to do is make the management of the devices on a non-routeable. Leon * Scott Reed wrote, On 1/31/2009 11:08 AM: Radius. You can make groups in Radius that map to groups on the routers. You can then make groups on the router for the specific functions you want the user to have. First the MT will check locally for the user. If that fails, it will check Radius. Thus, you can have an ID on the MT to ensure some has access, but let Radius to the normal authenication. Gino Villarini wrote: Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 5:31 PM -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
Radius, Radius Radius! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Gino Villarini wrote: Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
Dimitrois, Do you know of a API programmer that would be willing to do some code? -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Dimitrios Sidiropoulos wrote: Another way to get around all this is to use the MikroTik API. http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/API Has some learning curve and requires coding but turns out a clear solution. Thank you Dimitri You could setup a simple linux box running freeradius to do this. Takes just a little time and the cost of the machine. Actually you could just install vmware on a windows workstation and install Linux with freeradius on it and your cost is just your time to do it. Or you can hire a consultant to get this setup. I would estimate that it would only take a couple of hours for one of my guys to do that. While at it you could also get The Dude installed under Wine or install a copy of Intermapper to do the monitoring and quick launch of winbox/ssh/web login to your cpe and devices. If you need help with this you could call us and Scott or me could help you out. /Eje CTO WISP-Router, Inc /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:28:44 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; wa4...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control Does anyone do this? If so what are you using for RADIUS? I have been wanting to do this for some time now but haven't gotten around to it :( On 1/31/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: With the Dude, you could create a map, export it which gives a XML file. Edit the XML to get rid of UserID and Password. Distribute the file to all who can see the network. They just put their own UserID and Password in the first time they access a router. Now they can customize the maps as they desire, but the core devices are already populated. Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: Scott has a good idea. Combine that with the Dude and it works nice. Another thing to do is make the management of the devices on a non-routeable. Leon * Scott Reed wrote, On 1/31/2009 11:08 AM: Radius. You can make groups in Radius that map to groups on the routers. You can then make groups on the router for the specific functions you want the user to have. First the MT will check locally for the user. If that fails, it will check Radius. Thus, you can have an ID on the MT to ensure some has access, but let Radius to the normal authenication. Gino Villarini wrote: Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 5:31 PM -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
[WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
Radius. You can make groups in Radius that map to groups on the routers. You can then make groups on the router for the specific functions you want the user to have. First the MT will check locally for the user. If that fails, it will check Radius. Thus, you can have an ID on the MT to ensure some has access, but let Radius to the normal authenication. Gino Villarini wrote: Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 5:31 PM -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
Scott has a good idea. Combine that with the Dude and it works nice. Another thing to do is make the management of the devices on a non-routeable. Leon * Scott Reed wrote, On 1/31/2009 11:08 AM: Radius. You can make groups in Radius that map to groups on the routers. You can then make groups on the router for the specific functions you want the user to have. First the MT will check locally for the user. If that fails, it will check Radius. Thus, you can have an ID on the MT to ensure some has access, but let Radius to the normal authenication. Gino Villarini wrote: Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
With the Dude, you could create a map, export it which gives a XML file. Edit the XML to get rid of UserID and Password. Distribute the file to all who can see the network. They just put their own UserID and Password in the first time they access a router. Now they can customize the maps as they desire, but the core devices are already populated. Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: Scott has a good idea. Combine that with the Dude and it works nice. Another thing to do is make the management of the devices on a non-routeable. Leon * Scott Reed wrote, On 1/31/2009 11:08 AM: Radius. You can make groups in Radius that map to groups on the routers. You can then make groups on the router for the specific functions you want the user to have. First the MT will check locally for the user. If that fails, it will check Radius. Thus, you can have an ID on the MT to ensure some has access, but let Radius to the normal authenication. Gino Villarini wrote: Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 5:31 PM -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
Does anyone do this? If so what are you using for RADIUS? I have been wanting to do this for some time now but haven't gotten around to it :( On 1/31/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: With the Dude, you could create a map, export it which gives a XML file. Edit the XML to get rid of UserID and Password. Distribute the file to all who can see the network. They just put their own UserID and Password in the first time they access a router. Now they can customize the maps as they desire, but the core devices are already populated. Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: Scott has a good idea. Combine that with the Dude and it works nice. Another thing to do is make the management of the devices on a non-routeable. Leon * Scott Reed wrote, On 1/31/2009 11:08 AM: Radius. You can make groups in Radius that map to groups on the routers. You can then make groups on the router for the specific functions you want the user to have. First the MT will check locally for the user. If that fails, it will check Radius. Thus, you can have an ID on the MT to ensure some has access, but let Radius to the normal authenication. Gino Villarini wrote: Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 5:31 PM -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
You could setup a simple linux box running freeradius to do this. Takes just a little time and the cost of the machine. Actually you could just install vmware on a windows workstation and install Linux with freeradius on it and your cost is just your time to do it. Or you can hire a consultant to get this setup. I would estimate that it would only take a couple of hours for one of my guys to do that. While at it you could also get The Dude installed under Wine or install a copy of Intermapper to do the monitoring and quick launch of winbox/ssh/web login to your cpe and devices. If you need help with this you could call us and Scott or me could help you out. /Eje CTO WISP-Router, Inc /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:28:44 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; wa4...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control Does anyone do this? If so what are you using for RADIUS? I have been wanting to do this for some time now but haven't gotten around to it :( On 1/31/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: With the Dude, you could create a map, export it which gives a XML file. Edit the XML to get rid of UserID and Password. Distribute the file to all who can see the network. They just put their own UserID and Password in the first time they access a router. Now they can customize the maps as they desire, but the core devices are already populated. Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: Scott has a good idea. Combine that with the Dude and it works nice. Another thing to do is make the management of the devices on a non-routeable. Leon * Scott Reed wrote, On 1/31/2009 11:08 AM: Radius. You can make groups in Radius that map to groups on the routers. You can then make groups on the router for the specific functions you want the user to have. First the MT will check locally for the user. If that fails, it will check Radius. Thus, you can have an ID on the MT to ensure some has access, but let Radius to the normal authenication. Gino Villarini wrote: Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 5:31 PM -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control
I may give you a call on that. I am fairly well versed in Linux but time is a problem. Can you quote me off list please? On 1/31/09, e...@wisp-router.com e...@wisp-router.com wrote: You could setup a simple linux box running freeradius to do this. Takes just a little time and the cost of the machine. Actually you could just install vmware on a windows workstation and install Linux with freeradius on it and your cost is just your time to do it. Or you can hire a consultant to get this setup. I would estimate that it would only take a couple of hours for one of my guys to do that. While at it you could also get The Dude installed under Wine or install a copy of Intermapper to do the monitoring and quick launch of winbox/ssh/web login to your cpe and devices. If you need help with this you could call us and Scott or me could help you out. /Eje CTO WISP-Router, Inc /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:28:44 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; wa4...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing Multiple Mikrotiks - User Control Does anyone do this? If so what are you using for RADIUS? I have been wanting to do this for some time now but haven't gotten around to it :( On 1/31/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: With the Dude, you could create a map, export it which gives a XML file. Edit the XML to get rid of UserID and Password. Distribute the file to all who can see the network. They just put their own UserID and Password in the first time they access a router. Now they can customize the maps as they desire, but the core devices are already populated. Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: Scott has a good idea. Combine that with the Dude and it works nice. Another thing to do is make the management of the devices on a non-routeable. Leon * Scott Reed wrote, On 1/31/2009 11:08 AM: Radius. You can make groups in Radius that map to groups on the routers. You can then make groups on the router for the specific functions you want the user to have. First the MT will check locally for the user. If that fails, it will check Radius. Thus, you can have an ID on the MT to ensure some has access, but let Radius to the normal authenication. Gino Villarini wrote: Hello all WE have about 100 Mk units in our network, what tool is available to manage them effectively? We are looking in a way to manage our own internal access to them... Admins and techs getting into groups with individual pwds? Any ideas to a centrilized security management system for them? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 5:31 PM -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer