You made it into an MT email over night! I can forward to you if you didn't get it.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:40 PM To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (was CiscoVLAN help) > I didn't want to hijack Travis's Cisco thread, but wanted to throw in my > .02 > regarding MikroTik as a core router. > > > We began running MikroTik as a core router sometime back in 2004 when our > Cisco VXR DS3 router started to struggle. We purchased a couple LMC DS3 > NICs from Eje at Wisp-Router and haven't looked back since. > > It was better than three years ago when we bench tested more than 800Mbps > between MikroTik routers using older Intel Pro fiber NICs and standard > 32bit > PCI slots. Over the years we have deployed numerous MikroTik routers with > 24 or more 10/100 Interfaces, and several MikroTik routers with multiple > Intel GigE Copper and Fiber Interfaces. > > Today our MikroTik routers have evolved to include motherboards with > multiple PCIe x8 & x16 lane expansion slots, Quad core CPUs, 2Gig RAM, > redundant hot-swap power supplies and multiple six port SFP NICs. This > latest generation of MikroTik router we are deploying are extremely fast, > flexible, cost effective and most importantly reliable. > > The SFP NICs allow us to easily swap Interfaces from Copper GigE to SX > fiber, LX fiber, ZX Fiber...all hot-swap without requiring the router to > be > powered down or rebooted. The power supplies are diverse and redundant. > We > can lose either power feed or power module or any combination of the two > and > still keep the router powered up. > > We are currently peering with three GigE upstream providers with a fourth > GigE provider being turned up this week for unprecedented capacity and > diversity for an ISP our size. We are already exploring and evaluating > 10GigE Interfaces as our requirements continue to increase. We have no > reason to believe the MikroTik platform will not continue to deliver the > exceptional performance we have become accustomed to. > > Every client gets a MikroTik CPE router that we own and manage regardless > of > the medium used (microwave, copper, fiber etc.) to deliver their data > circuit. A MikroTik as a client CPE router gives us terrific flexibility > and diagnostic abilities. MikroTik allows us to provide the detailed > information required to identify and resolve problems at the client side > quickly and efficiently. We have made countless "IT Guys" heroes in the > eyes of their employers more times than I care to remember. <grin> > > I firmly believe we would not be where we are today, offering the level of > service we are able to provide without MikroTik at the core of our > network. > > Best, > > > Brad > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:42 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help > > We are using HP Carrier Servers on our Core, Dual Xenon 2.8 Ghz, Dual > PS, 2 GB Intel Nics with 3 PCIX 3 Port GB Cards for a total of 14 ports > per Router > > > Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:38 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help > > I answer with a question. What makes you think they couldn't do 100 > megs? > I believe the original PowerRouter series does 5.9 gigabits and the > latest series does 8 gigabits. > > I don't know how strong Mikrotik's VPLS offering is, but from what I've > heard, VPLS is the way to go. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:13 P > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help > >> How can you possibly get 100 megs with Mikrotik? >> >> On 12/9/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>> I like the "THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT"! :) Nothing wrong with that. > You >>> should be able to do that with some high end MTs and EoIP Tunnels > though >>> :) >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* >>> 314-735-0270 >>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> >>> >>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training >>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/* >>> >>> >>> >>> Travis Johnson wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting >>>> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular > customer >>>> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent" >>>> transport... and they are paying for it... :) >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> Microserv >>>> >>>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote: >>>>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites. No >>>>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are > the >>>>> same as internet traffic typically, etc. Simpler, and no "loop" >>>>> issues. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* >>>>> 314-735-0270 >>>>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> >>>>> >>>>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line > Training >>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Travis Johnson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have > the >>>>>> vlan >>>>>> >>>>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... > but >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep > from >>>>>> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the >>>>>> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does > block >>>>>> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN >>>>>> never >>>>>> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring. >>>>>> >>>>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find >>>>>> anything that I missed to make it work... >>>>>> >>>>>> Travis >>>>>> Microserv >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric Rogers wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what > is >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also > trunking >>>>>>> VLANs active. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are >>>>>>> allowed >>>>>>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all" > and it >>>>>>> did not display on the sho conf afterward). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Travis >>>>>>> Microserv >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Travis Johnson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I need some Cisco switch VLAN help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected >>>>>>> via the >>>>>>> GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am >>>>>>> trying >>>>>>> to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet >>>>>>> ports so >>>>>>> they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch >>>>>>> setup in >>>>>>> VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as >>>>>>> trunking ports. >>>>>>> There are 17 other cisco switches between these two. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have this setup between two other offices, but they are >>>>>>> directly >>>>>>> connected to each other, with no other switches in between. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What am I missing? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Travis >>>>>>> Microserv >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> -------- >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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