Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-05 Thread Jeremy Parr
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Those look like they have a lot of junk sticking out where you'd need

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-04 Thread Scott Reed
EMP (from lightning strikes). -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-04 Thread os10rules
: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use these: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-04 Thread Scott Reed
microwave rf. Steel is needed to dampen EMP (from lightning strikes). -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-04 Thread os10rules
to dampen EMP (from lightning strikes). -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-04 Thread Scott Reed
: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use these: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-04 Thread Chuck Profito
top. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Oops, yes I got that one backwards. Conductivity

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-04 Thread Scott Reed
, 2009 5:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Oops, yes I got that one backwards. Conductivity of several items is on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_conductivity Resistance of more items is at http://physics.info/electric-resistance

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-04 Thread rwf
, as it is a signal injection source point. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread os10rules
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use these: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread Robert West
10:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure I have to laugh at one of our competitors who uses PLASTIC enclosures next to their antennas on the tower. Even on the most RF-jam packed sites. One site in particular you can almost get a fluorescent light

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread Robert West
: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure If I could find some at anything like a reasonable cost, I'd have that answer :) -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread os10rules
Of Jayson Baker Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure I have to laugh at one of our competitors who uses PLASTIC enclosures next to their antennas on the tower. Even on the most RF-jam packed sites. One

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread Jayson Baker
: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure I have to laugh at one of our competitors who uses PLASTIC enclosures next to their antennas on the tower. Even on the most RF-jam packed sites. One site in particular you can almost get a fluorescent light to glow just holding

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread Mike
02, 2009 8:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use these: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= Josh

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread Josh Luthman
: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread ccrum
out where you'd need to weather proof connectors. marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread Gary Garrett
Then why do they call it Tin Foil if is really aluminum? Maybe you need a ground wire to a copper plate on the bottom of your shoes. Robert West wrote: So my aluminum foil hat is just bogus Man, I was wondering. Now I need to find some steel foil

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread Jeremy Parr
2009/12/3 ccrum cc...@dot11net.com: The link to the enclosures from belowreposted here: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= although I buy mine at another location. Those have not leaked, but I've seen plenty of water in my PAC DCE enclosures. Here is a nice

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread Robert West
: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure The link to the enclosures from belowreposted here: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= although I buy mine at another location. Those have not leaked, but I've seen plenty of water in my PAC DCE enclosures. Here

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread Robert West
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gary Garrett Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Then why do they call it Tin Foil if is really aluminum? Maybe you

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread RickG
: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-03 Thread Robert West
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure And lead is for protect against cyptonite :) On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:41 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Aluminum is moderately effective at attenuating microwave rf. Steel is needed to dampen EMP

[WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Mike
Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. I am interested in the multiple radios in an enclosure idea. I do have a couple with 5.8 and 2.4 gear in the same box, but have been afraid to put cards in the same band in the

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. I am interested in the multiple radios in an enclosure idea. I do have a couple with 5.8 and 2.4 gear in the same box

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread MDK
, 2009 8:13 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. I am interested in the multiple radios in an enclosure idea. I do

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Robert West
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. I am interested

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Mike
: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:13 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. I am interested in the multiple radios

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Dennis Burgess
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure I am very new to MT, but have been using some and learning. I'll have to see what the 411 is. I have 433s, a 450 and one of the 100s, but no 411s. What is self adhesive plastic? Do you mean that foam double sided tape? Does

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Mike
] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. I am interested in the multiple radios in an enclosure idea. I do have a couple with 5.8 and 2.4 gear in the same box, but have been

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread RickG
this with a 3.65 p2p shortly. -- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:13 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans called out

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Robert West
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Keep in mind that using plastic standoffs do not properly ground the boards/radios. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Robert West
Think of it as a cost saving. One less antenna to buy. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread RickG
Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure But, the noise is there. Just put one of the cards in station mode and run a survey. It really hit me one time when I put up a new link and the signal was very low

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
-- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:22 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure I am very new to MT, but have been using some and learning. I'll have to see what the 411 is. I

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
-- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:24 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Is your logic to save tower space? Do you still run multiple cat5? What sort of box/where do

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Robert Farrar
-- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:13 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my messaging etiquette, I

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Mike
-- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:22 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure I am very new to MT, but have been using some and learning. I'll have to see what the 411 is. I have 433s, a 450

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. I am interested in the multiple radios in an enclosure

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Jayson Baker
, 2009 8:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. I am interested in the multiple radios in an enclosure idea. I do have a couple with 5.8 and 2.4 gear

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
feet apart too. Life is much much nicer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Since I am probably one of the veterans

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread MDK
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use these: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use these: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
m...@aweiowa.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:50 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure OK, so I am a long time computer/radio geek, but have never done facebook. I created a facebook. Is that the proper term? Then, all

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread MDK
:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use these: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-02 Thread Jayson Baker
General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use steel if not? I use these: http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= Josh Luthman Office: 937-552