Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs

2012-06-06 Thread Jon Auer
Doesn't really affect me because the bandwidth crunch is at the last
mile link to the customer.
That said, we do ~30Mbps of Akamai traffic over peering and every meg
we don't have to pay for is nice.
The trick to getting CDN stuff when you have low traffic volumes is
wait for someone big (huge university, for example) to get it and then
peer with them.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shaddi Hasan sha...@cs.berkeley.edu wrote:
 I just came across this article on Netflix's plans to start running
 their own CDN. They're going to be offering free peering at a few
 IXPs, and are offering free cache appliances for ISPs with large
 amounts of traffic.

 http://blog.streamingmedia.com/the_business_of_online_vi/2012/06/netflix-announces-new-content-delivery-network-offering-free-caches-to-isps.html

 More information from Netflix itself is here:
 https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect

 Does anyone here plan to pursue this? How much would something like
 this actually resolve your Netflix issues, or is the bottleneck inside
 your network rather than at the access link?
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[WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs

2012-06-05 Thread Shaddi Hasan
I just came across this article on Netflix's plans to start running
their own CDN. They're going to be offering free peering at a few
IXPs, and are offering free cache appliances for ISPs with large
amounts of traffic.

http://blog.streamingmedia.com/the_business_of_online_vi/2012/06/netflix-announces-new-content-delivery-network-offering-free-caches-to-isps.html

More information from Netflix itself is here:
https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect

Does anyone here plan to pursue this? How much would something like
this actually resolve your Netflix issues, or is the bottleneck inside
your network rather than at the access link?
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs

2012-06-05 Thread Darin Steffl
They require at least 2Gbps of Netflix traffic across your network at all
time and require you connect the box to a 10Gbps port to our network. I
really doubt there are many WISP's out there running this much Netflix
traffic at one time. A few but nowhere near the majority. Also, for many of
us, this probably isn't the problem of running out of internet transit but
rather having AP's at capacity for which this would not solve at all.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shaddi Hasan sha...@cs.berkeley.eduwrote:

 I just came across this article on Netflix's plans to start running
 their own CDN. They're going to be offering free peering at a few
 IXPs, and are offering free cache appliances for ISPs with large
 amounts of traffic.


 http://blog.streamingmedia.com/the_business_of_online_vi/2012/06/netflix-announces-new-content-delivery-network-offering-free-caches-to-isps.html

 More information from Netflix itself is here:
 https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect

 Does anyone here plan to pursue this? How much would something like
 this actually resolve your Netflix issues, or is the bottleneck inside
 your network rather than at the access link?
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs

2012-06-05 Thread Doug Clark
I agree.  The problem is not the bandwidth from my headend, it is the last
mile which is killing the deal for me.  This whole streaming video over the
Internet
thing is absolutely insane!  With a bird (satellite) I can deliver content
to 280 million people with just 6 gigs worth of data transfer.  If I do the
same across the
Internet it will take 1.5279510989 zettabytes  Talk about total
inefficiency! 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Darin Steffl
Date: 6/5/2012 9:22:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs
 
They require at least 2Gbps of Netflix traffic across your network at all
time and require you connect the box to a 10Gbps port to our network. I
really doubt there are many WISP's out there running this much Netflix
traffic at one time. A few but nowhere near the majority. Also, for many of
us, this probably isn't the problem of running out of internet transit but
rather having AP's at capacity for which this would not solve at all.


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shaddi Hasan sha...@cs.berkeley.edu
wrote:

I just came across this article on Netflix's plans to start running
their own CDN. They're going to be offering free peering at a few
IXPs, and are offering free cache appliances for ISPs with large
amounts of traffic.

http://blog.streamingmedia
com/the_business_of_online_vi/2012/06/netflix-announces-new-content-delivery-
etwork-offering-free-caches-to-isps.html

More information from Netflix itself is here:
https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect

Does anyone here plan to pursue this? How much would something like
this actually resolve your Netflix issues, or is the bottleneck inside
your network rather than at the access link?
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs

2012-06-05 Thread Travis Johnson

The internet is free... don't you know that yet Doug? :)

Travis
Microserv


On 6/5/2012 9:43 AM, Doug Clark wrote:
I agree.  The problem is not the bandwidth from my headend, it is the 
last mile which is killing the deal for me.  This whole streaming 
video over the Internet
thing is absolutely insane!  With a bird (satellite) I can deliver 
content to 280 million people with just 6 gigs worth of data 
transfer.  If I do the same across the
Internet it will take 1.5279510989 zettabytes  Talk about total 
inefficiency!

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/*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA] Netflix to offer free caches to ISPs
They require at least 2Gbps of Netflix traffic across your network at 
all time and require you connect the box to a 10Gbps port to our 
network. I really doubt there are many WISP's out there running this 
much Netflix traffic at one time. A few but nowhere near the majority. 
Also, for many of us, this probably isn't the problem of running out 
of internet transit but rather having AP's at capacity for which this 
would not solve at all.


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shaddi Hasan sha...@cs.berkeley.edu 
mailto:sha...@cs.berkeley.edu wrote:

I just came across this article on Netflix's plans to start running
their own CDN. They're going to be offering free peering at a few
IXPs, and are offering free cache appliances for ISPs with large
amounts of traffic.

http://blog.streamingmedia.com/the_business_of_online_vi/2012/06/netflix-announces-new-content-delivery-network-offering-free-caches-to-isps.html

More information from Netflix itself is here:
https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect

Does anyone here plan to pursue this? How much would something like
this actually resolve your Netflix issues, or is the bottleneck inside
your network rather than at the access link?
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