Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
I didn't get in to it for liability purposes but you could just use Cobian Backup and an FTP server. I'd probably start with two boxes in two areas, rsync between the two and have customers talk to the first one. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:45 AM, RickG wrote: > What about roll your own? > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > For an up front cost you can use and even white label SOS backup. We > > didn't want to buy anything up front. > > > > On 7/15/10, RickG wrote: > >> Since we're on this subject, considering Mozy & several others are > >> making a profit on this. What solutions are there to provide a backup > >> service ourselves? > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer > >> wrote: > >>> Just send the data, automatically, off site! Even to another device in > a > >>> different part of the building... > >>> > >>> http://www.handybackup.net/?gclid=CO3NydOj66ICFSA5gwodxGrKeg > >>> > >>> marlon > >>> > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Jason Hensley" > >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:11 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > >>> > >>> > >>>> Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles > >>>> tape > >>>> at least. Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else > >>>> said, > >>>> tape sucks. Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them > but > >>>> even > >>>> those are outdated now. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for all the feedback. Love the BlacX option - didn't know that > >>>> existed! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > >>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM > >>>> To: WISPA General List > >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > >>>> > >>>> A remote server. Even one with a dedicated wireless link from > building a > >>>> to > >>>> > >>>> building b. > >>>> > >>>> If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent > >>>> option too. > >>>> > >>>> If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb > external > >>>> drive these days. > >>>> > >>>> marlon > >>>> > >>>> - Original Message - > >>>> From: "Jason Hensley" > >>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM > >>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something > >>>>> SCSI > >>>>> to > >>>>> replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate > >>>>> tape. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>>>> > >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>>> > >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
What about roll your own? On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > For an up front cost you can use and even white label SOS backup. We > didn't want to buy anything up front. > > On 7/15/10, RickG wrote: >> Since we're on this subject, considering Mozy & several others are >> making a profit on this. What solutions are there to provide a backup >> service ourselves? >> >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer >> wrote: >>> Just send the data, automatically, off site! Even to another device in a >>> different part of the building... >>> >>> http://www.handybackup.net/?gclid=CO3NydOj66ICFSA5gwodxGrKeg >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jason Hensley" >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:11 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup >>> >>> >>>> Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles >>>> tape >>>> at least. Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else >>>> said, >>>> tape sucks. Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but >>>> even >>>> those are outdated now. >>>> >>>> Thanks for all the feedback. Love the BlacX option - didn't know that >>>> existed! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup >>>> >>>> A remote server. Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a >>>> to >>>> >>>> building b. >>>> >>>> If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent >>>> option too. >>>> >>>> If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external >>>> drive these days. >>>> >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Jason Hensley" >>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM >>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup >>>> >>>> >>>>> What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something >>>>> SCSI >>>>> to >>>>> replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate >>>>> tape. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscr
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
I use RAID 5 with a hot spare on all servers. I backup to online service once a week Sat Night (changes only). But Backup to eSata HD nightly. 800 Mbs image transfer compared to 1-2 Mb with online upload backup if you're lucky. Full server image backup with verify and SQL. <30min with open files. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup Is anyone using RAID with redundancy? Or is the backup more intended to protect against catastrophic failure (lightning, fire etc) which would wipe out multiple drives as easily as a single drive? Seems like RAID combined with off site backup would be the easiest. No physical drives to lug around. Greg On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something > SCSI to replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate > tape. > > Thanks! > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Get some 1U iSCSI units, most have 4 drives, drop in 2TB drives. Then get about 5 of those. You setup RAID 5 on the 4 drives in each unit, then RAID5 across 5 units! Great redundancy and AWSOME speeds as you have 5 gig to balance with! --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup Is anyone using RAID with redundancy? Or is the backup more intended to protect against catastrophic failure (lightning, fire etc) which would wipe out multiple drives as easily as a single drive? Seems like RAID combined with off site backup would be the easiest. No physical drives to lug around. Greg On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
My R200 virtual box has two disks mirrored. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: > Is anyone using RAID with redundancy? Or is the backup more intended to > protect against catastrophic failure (lightning, fire etc) which would wipe > out multiple drives as easily as a single drive? > > Seems like RAID combined with off site backup would be the easiest. No > physical drives to lug around. > > Greg > > On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > > > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI > to > > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate > tape. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Is anyone using RAID with redundancy? Or is the backup more intended to protect against catastrophic failure (lightning, fire etc) which would wipe out multiple drives as easily as a single drive? Seems like RAID combined with off site backup would be the easiest. No physical drives to lug around. Greg On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
For an up front cost you can use and even white label SOS backup. We didn't want to buy anything up front. On 7/15/10, RickG wrote: > Since we're on this subject, considering Mozy & several others are > making a profit on this. What solutions are there to provide a backup > service ourselves? > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer > wrote: >> Just send the data, automatically, off site! Even to another device in a >> different part of the building... >> >> http://www.handybackup.net/?gclid=CO3NydOj66ICFSA5gwodxGrKeg >> >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jason Hensley" >> To: "'WISPA General List'" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:11 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup >> >> >>> Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles >>> tape >>> at least. Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else >>> said, >>> tape sucks. Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but >>> even >>> those are outdated now. >>> >>> Thanks for all the feedback. Love the BlacX option - didn't know that >>> existed! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup >>> >>> A remote server. Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a >>> to >>> >>> building b. >>> >>> If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent >>> option too. >>> >>> If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external >>> drive these days. >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jason Hensley" >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM >>> Subject: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup >>> >>> >>>> What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something >>>> SCSI >>>> to >>>> replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate >>>> tape. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Since we're on this subject, considering Mozy & several others are making a profit on this. What solutions are there to provide a backup service ourselves? On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Just send the data, automatically, off site! Even to another device in a > different part of the building... > > http://www.handybackup.net/?gclid=CO3NydOj66ICFSA5gwodxGrKeg > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Hensley" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:11 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > > >> Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles tape >> at least. Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else said, >> tape sucks. Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but >> even >> those are outdated now. >> >> Thanks for all the feedback. Love the BlacX option - didn't know that >> existed! >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup >> >> A remote server. Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a >> to >> >> building b. >> >> If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent >> option too. >> >> If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external >> drive these days. >> >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jason Hensley" >> To: "'WISPA General List'" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup >> >> >>> What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI >>> to >>> replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate >>> tape. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Just send the data, automatically, off site! Even to another device in a different part of the building... http://www.handybackup.net/?gclid=CO3NydOj66ICFSA5gwodxGrKeg marlon - Original Message - From: "Jason Hensley" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles tape > at least. Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else said, > tape sucks. Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but > even > those are outdated now. > > Thanks for all the feedback. Love the BlacX option - didn't know that > existed! > > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > > A remote server. Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a > to > > building b. > > If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent > option too. > > If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external > drive these days. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Hensley" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM > Subject: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > > >> What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI >> to >> replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate >> tape. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Get the trays for hot swap SATA disks? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: > Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles tape > at least. Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else said, > tape sucks. Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but > even > those are outdated now. > > Thanks for all the feedback. Love the BlacX option - didn't know that > existed! > > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > > A remote server. Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a > to > > building b. > > If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent > option too. > > If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external > drive these days. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Hensley" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM > Subject: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > > > > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI > > to > > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate > tape. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles tape at least. Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else said, tape sucks. Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but even those are outdated now. Thanks for all the feedback. Love the BlacX option - didn't know that existed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup A remote server. Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a to building b. If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent option too. If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external drive these days. marlon - Original Message - From: "Jason Hensley" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI > to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 21:45, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external > drive these days. > > Concur. Right now, my backup solution is a 2TB external USB drive, which cost about $200 and almost certainly is even less expensive now. Actually we have two of them, and use Windows SyncToy to keep the second one up-to-date; it goes home with me every few days, providing cheap offsite backups too. (Since someone will probably ask: For desktops, DeltaCopy, a Windows version of rsync; the servers are almost all virtualized, and backups are done by vRanger Pro.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
A remote server. Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a to building b. If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent option too. If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external drive these days. marlon - Original Message - From: "Jason Hensley" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI > to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Oooops.. 16GB drives. Sigh... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup I have a two clients with small offices and I set the secretary up with 5 usb flash drives with an autorun script. 16mb drives, less than 50 bucks each. She swaps them out every morning and snaps it onto her keychain and thus takes it off site every night. Has worked pretty well so far. They used to have tapes and NEVER changed them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup Don't forget to move the hard drives in case of fire/flood/tornado/theft/etc. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > Agree with Ryan. Use a Thermaltake blac X eSATA $35 buy a $45 each 250GB > laptop Hard Drive for each day. Hot swappable. Backup in 1 hour middle of > night. > > > > Steve Barnes > > General Manager > > PCS-WIN > > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Ryan Spott > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:27 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > > > > Sata drives in a Sata slot reader. > > > > ryan > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
I have a two clients with small offices and I set the secretary up with 5 usb flash drives with an autorun script. 16mb drives, less than 50 bucks each. She swaps them out every morning and snaps it onto her keychain and thus takes it off site every night. Has worked pretty well so far. They used to have tapes and NEVER changed them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup Don't forget to move the hard drives in case of fire/flood/tornado/theft/etc. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > Agree with Ryan. Use a Thermaltake blac X eSATA $35 buy a $45 each 250GB > laptop Hard Drive for each day. Hot swappable. Backup in 1 hour middle of > night. > > > > Steve Barnes > > General Manager > > PCS-WIN > > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Ryan Spott > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:27 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > > > > Sata drives in a Sata slot reader. > > > > ryan > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Tape???!!! OH H*LL NO! The one thing worse than a total crash of a system was having to deal with the tapes! I threw out the last DAT tapes probably 3 years ago. Set it up to send the info off site. Hey, Carbonite has lots of fans! Well, except for Hans Solo. He didn't like it much. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup I've never used tapes. Old servers tar things up and put it to a NAS. New servers (that is virtualized) are copied to the NAS (or will be, in the process of automating this). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Retrospect for PC/Mac backup. Rsync for unix machines. ryan On Jul 13, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: > What backup software is being used now, Veritas ? > > -- Original Message -- > From: Josh Luthman > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:39:59 -0400 > >> CentOS and SCP. >> >> Software is free and the hardware cost is up to you and your capacity needs. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Matt wrote: >> I've never used tapes. Old servers tar things up and put it to a NAS. New servers (that is virtualized) are copied to the NAS (or will be, in the process of automating this). >>> >>> What are you using for a NAS? >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Self written scripts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: > What backup software is being used now, Veritas ? > > -- Original Message -- > From: Josh Luthman > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:39:59 -0400 > > >CentOS and SCP. > > > >Software is free and the hardware cost is up to you and your capacity > needs. > > > >Josh Luthman > >Office: 937-552-2340 > >Direct: 937-552-2343 > >1100 Wayne St > >Suite 1337 > >Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > >On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Matt wrote: > > > >> > I've never used tapes. > >> > > >> > Old servers tar things up and put it to a NAS. > >> > > >> > New servers (that is virtualized) are copied to the NAS (or will be, > >> > in the process of automating this). > >> > >> What are you using for a NAS? > >> > >> Matt > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
What backup software is being used now, Veritas ? -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:39:59 -0400 >CentOS and SCP. > >Software is free and the hardware cost is up to you and your capacity needs. > >Josh Luthman >Office: 937-552-2340 >Direct: 937-552-2343 >1100 Wayne St >Suite 1337 >Troy, OH 45373 > > >On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Matt wrote: > >> > I've never used tapes. >> > >> > Old servers tar things up and put it to a NAS. >> > >> > New servers (that is virtualized) are copied to the NAS (or will be, >> > in the process of automating this). >> >> What are you using for a NAS? >> >> Matt >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
CentOS and SCP. Software is free and the hardware cost is up to you and your capacity needs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Matt wrote: > > I've never used tapes. > > > > Old servers tar things up and put it to a NAS. > > > > New servers (that is virtualized) are copied to the NAS (or will be, > > in the process of automating this). > > What are you using for a NAS? > > Matt > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
> I've never used tapes. > > Old servers tar things up and put it to a NAS. > > New servers (that is virtualized) are copied to the NAS (or will be, > in the process of automating this). What are you using for a NAS? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
If you have to depend on the Office Manager (Usually a Woman) to swap and take it off-site - Tapes fit in the purse well. Although, we are starting to use the small USB external drives now. They're about the same size as tapes.. -Gary- - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > I didn't know they made tape drives in the past 5 years. > > Pretty much the standard for backup now is just another, remote PC. > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 7/13/2010 3:23 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: >> What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI >> to >> replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate >> tape. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Seriously, its getting to the point where people have the transit to move everything to a server offsite. Or even to another side of your own network. Tapes suck... I think this is a prime time to upgrade. Ebay? Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: "Mike Hammett" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:30 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup I didn't know they made tape drives in the past 5 years. Pretty much the standard for backup now is just another, remote PC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/13/2010 3:23 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
I didn't know they made tape drives in the past 5 years. Pretty much the standard for backup now is just another, remote PC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/13/2010 3:23 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
I've got old tapes from the '80s I can't read but have recovered old MAC SCSI drives from then. Very recently, in fact. It took a table-top of connversion stuff to get real-time access to them. So, I go the drive backup route. I also take them off premesis. I expect that sometime the interface will be a roadblock as outdated technology but we'll see it coming and be able to copy them all to a fingernail-sized holographic gizmo, first. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup SATA drive in external case with USB. Travis Microserv Jason Hensley wrote: > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something > SCSI to replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Don't forget to move the hard drives in case of fire/flood/tornado/theft/etc. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > Agree with Ryan. Use a Thermaltake blac X eSATA $35 buy a $45 each 250GB > laptop Hard Drive for each day. Hot swappable. Backup in 1 hour middle of > night. > > > > Steve Barnes > > General Manager > > PCS-WIN > > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Ryan Spott > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:27 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > > > > Sata drives in a Sata slot reader. > > > > ryan > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Agree with Ryan. Use a Thermaltake blac X eSATA $35 buy a $45 each 250GB laptop Hard Drive for each day. Hot swappable. Backup in 1 hour middle of night. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN<http://www.pcswin.com/> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service<http://www.rcwifi.com/> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup Sata drives in a Sata slot reader. ryan On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Jason Hensley mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com>> wrote: What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
We've gotten quite a few from here - Good Pricing. http://www.coastalmicrosupply.com/ -Gary- - Original Message - From: "Jason Hensley" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:23 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI > to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
SATA drive in external case with USB. Travis Microserv Jason Hensley wrote: > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
Sata drives in a Sata slot reader. ryan On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI > to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
I've never used tapes. Old servers tar things up and put it to a NAS. New servers (that is virtualized) are copied to the NAS (or will be, in the process of automating this). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to > replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. > > Thanks! > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: "Tape" backup
What are you guys using for "Tape" backup options? Prefer something SCSI to replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
