[WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link. :-) What does this tell everybody??? Its from a Cisco 2960 switch. Oct 27 08:12:18.407 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface

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2009-10-30 Thread David E. Smith
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 09:14, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link. :-) What does this tell everybody??? Its from a Cisco 2960 switch.

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2009-10-30 Thread Jason Hensley
Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link. :-) What does this tell everybody??? Its from

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2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
other possibilities. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am

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2009-10-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
rather than Auto negotiate. Regards Faisal Imtiaz SnappyDSL.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I

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2009-10-30 Thread Nick Huanca
to me, but of course, many other possibilities. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I know

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2009-10-30 Thread Nick Huanca
, many other possibilities. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am

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2009-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
that helps, marlon - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic

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2009-10-30 Thread Kevin Neal
Does the wireless link by chance have the rapid port shutdown feature? If so, you may have a wireless link issue. -Kevin On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on

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2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link. :-) What does this tell everybody??? Its from

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2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
that helps, marlon - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy

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2009-10-30 Thread Bret Clark
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected

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2009-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question To All, OK Its a fiber interface. The system has been working fine. Configuration is this: 2960 --- fiber --- Gig Radio 60ghz Gig Radio ---fiber 2960 The interface went down twice in the same day

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2009-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question Its fiber. And I would think if it was an autonegotiate issue it would have been intermittent all along. It has been operating pretty nuch error free other than this event. But I guess I could try the ferrite beads on the fiber. Hey..It wouldn't

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2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
1000FDX rather than Auto negotiate. Regards Faisal Imtiaz SnappyDSL.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Question

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2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question To All, OK Its a fiber interface. The system has been working fine. Configuration is this: 2960 --- fiber --- Gig Radio 60ghz Gig Radio ---fiber 2960

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2009-10-30 Thread Eric Rogers
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question How close are these links? We find that at 0.10 in/hr of rain fall will cause our

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2009-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question No Marlon K. Schafer wrote: That almost sounds like someone *physically* unplugging the devices. Did any of you show up during the outage? (I assume yes but have to ask) marlon - Original Message

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2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question No Marlon K. Schafer wrote: That almost sounds like someone *physically* unplugging the devices. Did any of you show up during the outage? (I assume yes but have to ask

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2009-10-30 Thread Brad Belton
, October 30, 2009 11:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question Its on a commercial rooftop on both sides. Ladies from the cleaning union don't go up there. The cabinets are locked. The rooftops are alarmed and on CCTV on both sides. And it was a crappy day so nobody

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2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question Its on a commercial rooftop on both sides. Ladies from the cleaning union don't go up there. The cabinets are locked. The rooftops are alarmed and on CCTV

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2007-12-18 Thread John Thomas
Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate

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2007-12-12 Thread Marlon Schafer
- Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Scott Lambert wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:21:37AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Here's an example from yesterday. My new

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2007-12-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dreaded MS Vista Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have

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2007-12-11 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:21:37AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Here's an example from yesterday. My new laptop is Vista (the old one has a concrete floor induced broken screen). There is a device somewhere on my network that is answering arp requests incorrectly. No

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2007-12-11 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Scott Lambert wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:21:37AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Here's an example from yesterday. My new laptop is Vista (the old one has a concrete floor induced broken screen). There is a device somewhere on my network that is

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2007-12-11 Thread Scott Reed
Why should Windows refuse to accept an IP just because there is a conflict on the network? As long as that machine has a unique address, why should it care about the duplicate? Makes it hard to troubleshoot the network when your troubleshooting machine won't get an address. Scott Lambert

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2007-12-11 Thread George Rogato
I've seen this as well in the past. Best to my recollection is has something to do with the consumer gateway routers. Or it had something to do with someones pc. I can't remember the actual situation, but I seen a bunch of times. One more reason why I like using the router built into the cpe

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2007-12-11 Thread Mac Dearman
, December 11, 2007 11:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Scott Lambert wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:21:37AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Here's an example from yesterday. My new laptop is Vista (the old one has a concrete floor

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2007-12-11 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Scott Lambert wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:21:37AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Here's an example from yesterday. My new laptop is Vista

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2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Games. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jonathan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question We've

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2007-12-10 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Games. - Mike Hammett

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2007-12-10 Thread Bob Moldashel
] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate

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2007-12-10 Thread WWS2
FYI-Vista SP1 Beta is available now, I have loaded it on this laptop and another PC. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)

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2007-12-10 Thread Anthony Will
: Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Games. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

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2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
6:01 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT

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2007-12-10 Thread Travis Johnson
: Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without problems

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2007-12-10 Thread Scottie Arnett
..Question Games. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jonathan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question

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2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Jeff Broadwick wrote: I'm getting close to a decision on a new computer for my family. What Linux desk-top would be best at this point? I have not used it extensively, but there are a number of users of Ubuntu. The large user base means good support on forums and

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2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if apple or linux had hundreds of thousands of programs written for it, they would be of benefit or offer a little competition to MicroSoft But when it is barely into the hundreds, it is easy to have it work so easily. What? There are

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2007-12-10 Thread Travis Johnson
Adobe Photoshop Scansoft Paperport Quickbooks iTunes (for my iPhone) Streets and Trips 2008 Radio Mobile Quark Xpress Visio thanks, Travis Microserv Butch Evans wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if apple or linux had hundreds of thousands of programs written for it,

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2007-12-10 Thread Dylan Oliver
This is getting a little further astray, but what makes you think that Fedora is geekier than Ubuntu? The ladies tell me I'm pretty geeky, but I run Ubuntu and now you're stepping on my . Can we please agree that there is nothing inherently more geeky about one distro vs another - though

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2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if apple or linux had hundreds of thousands of programs written for it, they would be of benefit or offer a little competition

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2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Travis Johnson wrote: Adobe Photoshop GIMP Scansoft Paperport Don't know what this one is. If it is a scanner driver, then there is one called sane for Linux. There is possibly more functionality in your app, but I am not familiar with what it is or does.

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2007-12-10 Thread Dylan Oliver
Freshbooks is fantastic for service invoicing. It handles recurring billing with supporting payment gateways, and also gives you the option to send paper invoices (monthly, automatically!) for a little more than a dollar. Roger Coude just announced Linux-friendly 8.6.0 this morning. It's worked

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2007-12-10 Thread Brad Belton
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 12:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Travis Johnson wrote: Adobe Photoshop GIMP Scansoft Paperport Don't know what this one is. If it is a scanner driver

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2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Dylan Oliver wrote: This is getting a little further astray, but what makes you think that Fedora is geekier than Ubuntu? The ladies tell me I'm pretty geeky, but I run Ubuntu and now you're stepping on my . Can we please agree that there is nothing inherently more

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Mike Hammett wrote: There are too many Linux programs to count... unfortunately, most of them are garbage and so is the support. You get what you pay for. Nobody is trying to convince you of anything. You are obviously not very familiar regarding this topic, so your

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Brad Belton wrote: Ok, here is a curve ball for you Butch; WinBox into a MikroTik router running v2.8. grin lol. Terminal with ssh? That is my preferred method anyway. I use winbox mostly because it remembers passwords anyway. ;-) Only because recently you said

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Butch Evans wrote: Nobody is trying to convince you of anything. CRAP. I apologize to the list (and Mike) for posting this to the list. I did not intend for this to go here. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879

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2007-12-10 Thread Dylan Oliver
Glad we can be friends again! There is a 'server' edition for Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition. I just noticed a version optimized for VMWare ( http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos), which is great for me as I run XP for Quickbooks and

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2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Mike Hammett wrote: There are too many Linux programs to count... unfortunately, most of them are garbage and so is the support. You get what you pay

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2007-12-10 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
, 2007 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Adobe Photoshop Scansoft Paperport Quickbooks iTunes (for my iPhone) Streets and Trips 2008 Radio Mobile Quark Xpress Visio thanks, Travis Microserv Butch Evans wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe

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2007-12-10 Thread Andrew Niemantsverdriet
to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Adobe Photoshop Scansoft Paperport Quickbooks iTunes

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2007-12-10 Thread Mark McElvy
Stumbler does not run under Vista either, Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:06 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question Please add network stumbler to the list

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2007-12-10 Thread Frank Muto
@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:01 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:23 AM To: WISPA

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2007-12-10 Thread Rick Harnish
Let's move this thread to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you care to continue please. I have received several requests to kill this thread. Thank you, Rick Harnish No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1179 - Release Date:

[WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Bob Moldashel
Sorry for this one guys. Everyone knows I'm an RF guy not a network guy so hence the question...and it is wireless in naturesort of I bought a new laptop for one of my guys. It of course has the dreaded MS Vista on it. Is it possible to partition the hard drive, delete the OS on

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2007-12-09 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT..Question Sorry for this one guys. Everyone knows I'm an RF guy not a network guy so hence the question...and it is wireless

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2007-12-09 Thread George Rogato
Network Engineer 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT..Question Sorry for this one guys. Everyone knows

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2007-12-09 Thread Bob Moldashel
List Subject: [WISPA] OT..Question Sorry for this one guys. Everyone knows I'm an RF guy not a network guy so hence the question...and it is wireless in naturesort of I bought a new laptop for one of my guys. It of course has the dreaded MS Vista on it. Is it possible

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2007-12-09 Thread Bob Moldashel
Wireless Network Engineer 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT..Question Sorry for this one guys

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2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT..Question Sorry for this one guys. Everyone knows I'm an RF guy not a network guy so

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2007-12-09 Thread Ty Carter Lightwave Communications
://www.strategicconsultants.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT..Question Sorry for this one guys. Everyone knows I'm an RF guy not a network guy so hence

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2007-12-09 Thread WWS2
In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dreaded MS Vista Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without problems [laptops and PC's]. I

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Mike Hammett
: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dreaded MS Vista Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread lakeland
K. Tnx Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:17:12 To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question The only other issue you will have is finding all the XP drivers

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2007-12-09 Thread Ryan Langseth
, December 09, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dreaded MS Vista Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using

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2007-12-09 Thread lakeland
Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:57:00 To:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dreaded MS Vista Why

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2007-12-09 Thread lakeland
My appologies to the list. The one thing i was hoping to avoid was an OS thread. We all know how that discussion loads up the list hard drive. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join

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2007-12-09 Thread lakeland
Will do. Tnx Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ty Carter Lightwave Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:45:32 To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question Bob: Take a look at http://apcmag.com

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2007-12-09 Thread Mike Hammett
, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Thats because in about a year, SP1 will be released and clear up the major problems.I consider the first version of any new MS OS to be a release candidate at best. Frankly if they do not clean up the Usability of Vista

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2007-12-09 Thread Doug
control that scans your devices and has a library of device codes for nearly everything. -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 2:54 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question No, no, Dell is to blame

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2007-12-09 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without problems [laptops and PC's]. I think it is more a learning curve with so many changes rom the earlier

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without problems [laptops and PC's]. I think it is more a learning curve

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2007-12-09 Thread WWS2
In a message dated 12/9/2007 6:48:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Butch, I'm getting close to a decision on a new computer for my family. What Linux desk-top would be best at this point? Jeff Depending upon how 'top' you need it to be, either buy a HP on

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2007-12-09 Thread WWS2
In a message dated 12/9/2007 3:16:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
new computer for my family. What Linux desk-top would be best at this point? Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun

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2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED

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2007-12-09 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
as the same or better. That argument doesn't fly anymore. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Hi, Every

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2007-12-09 Thread Dylan Oliver
You are either a troll or willfully ignorant. There are tens of thousands of programs available for linux: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo wajig list-names | sed -e '/lib/d' | wc Password: 17883 17883 239642 There are 17883 packages (which do not match the phrase 'lib', to weed out about 7000

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2007-12-09 Thread Steve
for my family. What Linux desk-top would be best at this point? Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun, 9 Dec 2007

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2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
ber 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, witho

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2007-12-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using

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2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
cough*. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. E

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2007-12-09 Thread Steve
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista

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2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
to a decision on a new computer for my family. What Linux desk-top would be best at this point? Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT

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2007-12-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using