Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-08-17 Thread Mike Hammett
  Since my source of cheap units threw theirs away, anyone have any 
surplus Nighthawk units?

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 7/27/2010 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
  What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at 
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are 
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.




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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-08-17 Thread Josh Luthman
Are you looking for NH100 units?  If so I have some good news.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  Since my source of cheap units threw theirs away, anyone have any
 surplus Nighthawk units?

 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 7/27/2010 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
  What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-08-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah.  Been there done that.  We set ours to default to ON though.

I also have to be careful to turn off the allow access from same subnet 
only option.  That one's dinged me a few times.

I've had 1 or two of these units fail, ever.  I probably have 8 or 10 of 
them out there (more going in from time to time) some for many years now.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting


 Most common mistake made with the Web Power Switch units is the default
 is to leave plugs off when losing power, we change those settings to
 restore to previous state on power loss, problem solved.  Don't forget
 to save changes.

 Forbes

 On 7/28/2010 10:26 AM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 Thanks for making me think about it.  Last night at 7:30 we had a tower
 go down.  Cause...web power switch failed and shut off all the plugs.  I
 guess we'll have to try the battery trick.

 -Kristian

 On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 19:36 -0700, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:

 We've had almost as many dispatches to fix/replace broken DLI web power
 switches as we have saved dispatches from being able to remotely reboot
 devices.  At this point, we have half a dozen on the shelf that I'm
 reluctant to send out in the field.

 On the other hand, we have some older units (pre autoping) that have
 been running for 2-3 years in hot nasty environments.  I wish we could
 figure out what was causing the failures because, in theory, they're
 good units and reasonably priced.

 -- 
 Kristian Hoffmann
 System Administrator
 kh...@fire2wire.com
 http://www.fire2wire.com

 Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE


 On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 19:36 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote:

 Anyone has experience with the webpower switch? Good ? bad ?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Cameron Crum
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:32 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

 Mine quit responding so i called in...they told me they no longer
 supported the paging protocol those units used.

 On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Chuck Profitocprof...@cv-access.com 
 wrote:

 http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html

 This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for 
 off
 line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have 
 saved a
 trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
 Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
 network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you 
 know
 how long the batteries will last.


 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-Access, Inc.
 www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
 Providing Broadband Internet Access to
 California's Rural Central Valley


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

 --


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We just use the digital loggers units and automate the process.  They know 
when the reboot is needed due to an outage.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:40 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting


  What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

 -- 


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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-28 Thread Jon Auer
You can also get a data card with a telemetry plan from a cell carrier
and plug it into a Mikrotik.
The setup fee can be pretty steep but once its set up the cost isn't
super high so long as you aren't pushing a lot of data.
Gets you out of band access to the tower network including any network
controllable outlet strips/PDUs/rebooters.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net wrote:
 $200 bucks and a prepaid SIM card?
 http://www.gsm-auto.com/
 ryan

 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

 They still them and actively support them in many areas, according to
 them.  They say the problem is that the paging providers are closing down in
 some areas due to the economy.

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 Mike Hammett
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 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 7/27/2010 1:04 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

 nighthawk systems used to sell pager reboot devices. I still have a few,
 but they quit supporting the paging protocol used on my units...now they are
 paperweights.

 Cameron

 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

  What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

 --


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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-28 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
Thanks for making me think about it.  Last night at 7:30 we had a tower
go down.  Cause...web power switch failed and shut off all the plugs.  I
guess we'll have to try the battery trick.

-Kristian

On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 19:36 -0700, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 We've had almost as many dispatches to fix/replace broken DLI web power
 switches as we have saved dispatches from being able to remotely reboot
 devices.  At this point, we have half a dozen on the shelf that I'm
 reluctant to send out in the field.
 
 On the other hand, we have some older units (pre autoping) that have
 been running for 2-3 years in hot nasty environments.  I wish we could
 figure out what was causing the failures because, in theory, they're
 good units and reasonably priced.
 
 -- 
 Kristian Hoffmann
 System Administrator
 kh...@fire2wire.com
 http://www.fire2wire.com  
 
 Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE
 
 
 On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 19:36 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote:
  Anyone has experience with the webpower switch? Good ? bad ?
  
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  787.273.4143
  
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
  Behalf Of Cameron Crum
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:32 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
  
  Mine quit responding so i called in...they told me they no longer
  supported the paging protocol those units used.
  
  On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote:
   http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html
  
   This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
   line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have 
   saved a
   trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
   Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
   network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you know
   how long the batteries will last.
  
  
   Chuck Profito
   209-988-7388
   CV-Access, Inc.
   www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
   Providing Broadband Internet Access to
   California's Rural Central Valley
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
  
 What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
   WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
   cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.
  
   --
  
  
   -
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   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  
   
   
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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-28 Thread Forbes Mercy
Most common mistake made with the Web Power Switch units is the default 
is to leave plugs off when losing power, we change those settings to 
restore to previous state on power loss, problem solved.  Don't forget 
to save changes.

Forbes

On 7/28/2010 10:26 AM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 Thanks for making me think about it.  Last night at 7:30 we had a tower
 go down.  Cause...web power switch failed and shut off all the plugs.  I
 guess we'll have to try the battery trick.

 -Kristian

 On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 19:36 -0700, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:

 We've had almost as many dispatches to fix/replace broken DLI web power
 switches as we have saved dispatches from being able to remotely reboot
 devices.  At this point, we have half a dozen on the shelf that I'm
 reluctant to send out in the field.

 On the other hand, we have some older units (pre autoping) that have
 been running for 2-3 years in hot nasty environments.  I wish we could
 figure out what was causing the failures because, in theory, they're
 good units and reasonably priced.

 -- 
 Kristian Hoffmann
 System Administrator
 kh...@fire2wire.com
 http://www.fire2wire.com

 Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE


 On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 19:36 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote:
  
 Anyone has experience with the webpower switch? Good ? bad ?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Cameron Crum
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:32 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

 Mine quit responding so i called in...they told me they no longer
 supported the paging protocol those units used.

 On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Chuck Profitocprof...@cv-access.com  wrote:

 http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html

 This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
 line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have saved 
 a
 trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
 Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
 network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you know
 how long the batteries will last.


 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-Access, Inc.
 www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
 Providing Broadband Internet Access to
 California's Rural Central Valley


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

 --


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-28 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
Good point, but that's not the problem in our case.  We also noticed
that the ON sequence delay setting affects the cycle time as well.
The default setting is often too fast and won't actually powercycle PoE
powered MikroTik devices.  We've found that changing that setting to
5-10 seconds works much better.

-Kristian

On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 10:55 -0700, Forbes Mercy wrote:
 Most common mistake made with the Web Power Switch units is the default 
 is to leave plugs off when losing power, we change those settings to 
 restore to previous state on power loss, problem solved.  Don't forget 
 to save changes.
 
 Forbes
 
 On 7/28/2010 10:26 AM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
  Thanks for making me think about it.  Last night at 7:30 we had a tower
  go down.  Cause...web power switch failed and shut off all the plugs.  I
  guess we'll have to try the battery trick.
 
  -Kristian
 
  On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 19:36 -0700, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 
  We've had almost as many dispatches to fix/replace broken DLI web power
  switches as we have saved dispatches from being able to remotely reboot
  devices.  At this point, we have half a dozen on the shelf that I'm
  reluctant to send out in the field.
 
  On the other hand, we have some older units (pre autoping) that have
  been running for 2-3 years in hot nasty environments.  I wish we could
  figure out what was causing the failures because, in theory, they're
  good units and reasonably priced.
 
  -- 
  Kristian Hoffmann
  System Administrator
  kh...@fire2wire.com
  http://www.fire2wire.com
 
  Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE
 
 
  On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 19:36 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote:
   
  Anyone has experience with the webpower switch? Good ? bad ?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  787.273.4143
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
  Behalf Of Cameron Crum
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:32 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
 
  Mine quit responding so i called in...they told me they no longer
  supported the paging protocol those units used.
 
  On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Chuck Profitocprof...@cv-access.com  wrote:
 
  http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html
 
  This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
  line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have 
  saved a
  trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
  Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
  network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you 
  know
  how long the batteries will last.
 
 
  Chuck Profito
  209-988-7388
  CV-Access, Inc.
  www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
  Providing Broadband Internet Access to
  California's Rural Central Valley
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
 
 What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
  WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
  cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.
 
  --
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
  
  
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[WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Mike Hammett
  What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at 
WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are 
cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

-- 


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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Nighthawk nh100, uses the paging system.

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

  What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Cameron Crum
nighthawk systems used to sell pager reboot devices. I still have a few, but
they quit supporting the paging protocol used on my units...now they are
paperweights.

Cameron

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

  What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Worked for me two weeks ago.

On Jul 27, 2010 2:06 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

nighthawk systems used to sell pager reboot devices. I still have a few, but
they quit supporting the paging protocol used on my units...now they are
paperweights.

Cameron



On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
wrote:

  What are you...




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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
If anyone is interested, I got 6 nighthawk units brand new willing to
part with very easely(cheap)

 

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Worked for me two weeks ago.

On Jul 27, 2010 2:06 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
wrote:

nighthawk systems used to sell pager reboot devices. I still
have a few, but they quit supporting the paging protocol used on my
units...now they are paperweights.

Cameron



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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Mike Hammett
 They still them and actively support them in many areas, according to 
them.  They say the problem is that the paging providers are closing 
down in some areas due to the economy.


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On 7/27/2010 1:04 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
nighthawk systems used to sell pager reboot devices. I still have a 
few, but they quit supporting the paging protocol used on my 
units...now they are paperweights.


Cameron

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett 
wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:


 What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

--


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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Where are you getting PSTN for 10/mo? We start at 60/mo with no features or
usage from three large telcos around here.

On Jul 27, 2010 4:57 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:

 Why not just get a basic business measured POT's line...probably $10 a
month? There are lots of devices that will run off of touch tone signaling
in which you can issue turnoff/turnon commands.


On 07/27/2010 04:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Ryan Spott
$200 bucks and a prepaid SIM card?

http://www.gsm-auto.com/

ryan

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

  They still them and actively support them in many areas, according to
 them.  They say the problem is that the paging providers are closing down in
 some areas due to the economy.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com


 On 7/27/2010 1:04 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

 nighthawk systems used to sell pager reboot devices. I still have a few,
 but they quit supporting the paging protocol used on my units...now they are
 paperweights.

 Cameron

 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett 
 wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

  What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

 --


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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Chuck Profito
http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html

This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have saved a
trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you know
how long the batteries will last.


Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-Access, Inc.
www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com  
Providing Broadband Internet Access to 
California's Rural Central Valley


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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

  What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at 
WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are 
cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

-- 


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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Brad Belton
Butch Evans put together a MikroTik script for us that monitors our APC
UPSs.  Sends us an email when power is lost along with battery time
remaining.  Then sends us an email again once power is restored and again
updates the remaining battery life.  Works well, but unfortunately the
RB493AH doesn't have a USB port for the standard included APC USB
cable...for that matter very few multi-interface RouterBoards have USB
ports.  Most of our HUB sites are x86 based routers, so it hasn't been a
huge deal for us, but having the ability to monitor the UPS via the MikroTik
router is very handy.

We have many of the Digital Loggers eight port rack mount remote power
switches.  We've been seeing a higher failure rate out of them than we like
to see.  Basically they just become deaf or non-responsive via their
Ethernet port...even after a hard reset they are toast.  Anyone else seeing
similar results from the Digital Logger rack mount 8 port?  They're a great
value at $200-$300, but not if we keep seeing failures...

Best,



Brad


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Behalf Of Chuck Profito
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:53 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html

This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have saved a
trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you know
how long the batteries will last.


Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-Access, Inc.
www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com  
Providing Broadband Internet Access to 
California's Rural Central Valley


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

  What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at 
WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are 
cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

-- 


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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Bret Clark
Ouch...is that measure or unmeasured? Measured around NH is about 
$10-$12 minus the slush fund and bogus add on fees. I think last time I 
checked total was about $15-$20 including fees.


On 07/27/2010 05:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Where are you getting PSTN for 10/mo? We start at 60/mo with no 
features or usage from three large telcos around here.


On Jul 27, 2010 4:57 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com 
mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:


Why not just get a basic business measured POT's line...probably $10 
a month? There are lots of devices that will run off of touch tone 
signaling in which you can issue turnoff/turnon commands.



On 07/27/2010 04:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Cameron Crum
Mine quit responding so i called in...they told me they no longer
supported the paging protocol those units used.

On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote:
 http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html

 This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
 line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have saved a
 trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
 Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
 network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you know
 how long the batteries will last.


 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-Access, Inc.
 www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
 Providing Broadband Internet Access to
 California's Rural Central Valley


 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

   What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

 --


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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Jason Bailey
model/any other spec on them?

--- On Tue, 7/27/10, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:


From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 2:40 PM








If anyone is interested, I got 6 nighthawk units brand new willing to part with 
very easely….(cheap)
 

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143




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Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
 
Worked for me two weeks ago.

On Jul 27, 2010 2:06 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

nighthawk systems used to sell pager reboot devices. I still have a few, but 
they quit supporting the paging protocol used on my units...now they are 
paperweights.

Cameron


On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
What do you mean measured?

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.comwrote:

  Ouch...is that measure or unmeasured? Measured around NH is about $10-$12
 minus the slush fund and bogus add on fees. I think last time I checked
 total was about $15-$20 including fees.

 On 07/27/2010 05:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Where are you getting PSTN for 10/mo? We start at 60/mo with no features or
 usage from three large telcos around here.

 On Jul 27, 2010 4:57 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:

 Why not just get a basic business measured POT's line...probably $10 a
 month? There are lots of devices that will run off of touch tone signaling
 in which you can issue turnoff/turnon commands.


 On 07/27/2010 04:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 
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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
When did that take place?

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

 Mine quit responding so i called in...they told me they no longer
 supported the paging protocol those units used.

 On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote:
  http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html
 
  This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
  line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have
 saved a
  trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
  Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
  network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you
 know
  how long the batteries will last.
 
 
  Chuck Profito
  209-988-7388
  CV-Access, Inc.
  www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
  Providing Broadband Internet Access to
  California's Rural Central Valley
 
 
  -Original Message-
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  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
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  Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
 
What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
  WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
  cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Bret Clark
Pay for all local inbound and outbound calls. Unmeasured was free 
local calls...still paid for LD.


On 07/27/2010 06:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

What do you mean measured?

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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com 
mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:


Ouch...is that measure or unmeasured? Measured around NH is about
$10-$12 minus the slush fund and bogus add on fees. I think last
time I checked total was about $15-$20 including fees.

On 07/27/2010 05:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Where are you getting PSTN for 10/mo? We start at 60/mo with no
features or usage from three large telcos around here.


On Jul 27, 2010 4:57 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com
mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:

Why not just get a basic business measured POT's line...probably
$10 a month? There are lots of devices that will run off of
touch tone signaling in which you can issue turnoff/turnon
commands.


On 07/27/2010 04:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 They still them and actively support them in many a...






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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I said no usage. That's 0 minutes. Local calls account for minimal minutes
on most lines. Local long distance are most abundant.

This is why I avoid the PSTN.

On Jul 27, 2010 6:57 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:

 Pay for all local inbound and outbound calls. Unmeasured was free local
calls...still paid for LD.


On 07/27/2010 06:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 What do you mean measured?

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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone has experience with the webpower switch? Good ? bad ?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

Mine quit responding so i called in...they told me they no longer
supported the paging protocol those units used.

On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote:
 http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html

 This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
 line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have saved a
 trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
 Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
 network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you know
 how long the batteries will last.


 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-Access, Inc.
 www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
 Providing Broadband Internet Access to
 California's Rural Central Valley


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

   What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

 --


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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Synaccess Networks NP-08 is decent.  I've had it lock on me in about 3
years, though.

Gives you room for comments and multiple users.

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 Anyone has experience with the webpower switch? Good ? bad ?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Cameron Crum
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:32 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

 Mine quit responding so i called in...they told me they no longer
 supported the paging protocol those units used.

 On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote:
  http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html
 
  This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
  line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have
 saved a
  trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
  Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
  network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you
 know
  how long the batteries will last.
 
 
  Chuck Profito
  209-988-7388
  CV-Access, Inc.
  www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
  Providing Broadband Internet Access to
  California's Rural Central Valley
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
 
What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
  WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
  cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Cameron Crum
Brad,
I found out what causes this. There is a small battery inside that
loses its ability to keep a charge. Once this happens, the thing goes
back to defaults at every reboot. You can get a replacement at
batteries plus. It looks like a double a, but is some li variant.

Cameron

On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
 Butch Evans put together a MikroTik script for us that monitors our APC
 UPSs.  Sends us an email when power is lost along with battery time
 remaining.  Then sends us an email again once power is restored and again
 updates the remaining battery life.  Works well, but unfortunately the
 RB493AH doesn't have a USB port for the standard included APC USB
 cable...for that matter very few multi-interface RouterBoards have USB
 ports.  Most of our HUB sites are x86 based routers, so it hasn't been a
 huge deal for us, but having the ability to monitor the UPS via the MikroTik
 router is very handy.

 We have many of the Digital Loggers eight port rack mount remote power
 switches.  We've been seeing a higher failure rate out of them than we like
 to see.  Basically they just become deaf or non-responsive via their
 Ethernet port...even after a hard reset they are toast.  Anyone else seeing
 similar results from the Digital Logger rack mount 8 port?  They're a great
 value at $200-$300, but not if we keep seeing failures...

 Best,



 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Chuck Profito
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:53 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

 http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html

 This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
 line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have saved a
 trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
 Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
 network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you know
 how long the batteries will last.


 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-Access, Inc.
 www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
 Providing Broadband Internet Access to
 California's Rural Central Valley


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

   What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

 --


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
We've had almost as many dispatches to fix/replace broken DLI web power
switches as we have saved dispatches from being able to remotely reboot
devices.  At this point, we have half a dozen on the shelf that I'm
reluctant to send out in the field.

On the other hand, we have some older units (pre autoping) that have
been running for 2-3 years in hot nasty environments.  I wish we could
figure out what was causing the failures because, in theory, they're
good units and reasonably priced.

-- 
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On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 19:36 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote:
 Anyone has experience with the webpower switch? Good ? bad ?
 
 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Cameron Crum
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:32 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
 
 Mine quit responding so i called in...they told me they no longer
 supported the paging protocol those units used.
 
 On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote:
  http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html
 
  This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
  line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have saved a
  trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
  Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
  network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you know
  how long the batteries will last.
 
 
  Chuck Profito
  209-988-7388
  CV-Access, Inc.
  www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
  Providing Broadband Internet Access to
  California's Rural Central Valley
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
 
What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
  WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
  cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.
 
  --
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Nick White
We saw the same issue. Had to replace the internal battery on about ten 
of them after 3-4 years of deployment. Been fine ever since.

On 7/27/2010 5:32 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
 Brad,
 I found out what causes this. There is a small battery inside that
 loses its ability to keep a charge. Once this happens, the thing goes
 back to defaults at every reboot. You can get a replacement at
 batteries plus. It looks like a double a, but is some li variant.

 Cameron

 On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Brad Beltonb...@belwave.com  wrote:

 Butch Evans put together a MikroTik script for us that monitors our APC
 UPSs.  Sends us an email when power is lost along with battery time
 remaining.  Then sends us an email again once power is restored and again
 updates the remaining battery life.  Works well, but unfortunately the
 RB493AH doesn't have a USB port for the standard included APC USB
 cable...for that matter very few multi-interface RouterBoards have USB
 ports.  Most of our HUB sites are x86 based routers, so it hasn't been a
 huge deal for us, but having the ability to monitor the UPS via the MikroTik
 router is very handy.

 We have many of the Digital Loggers eight port rack mount remote power
 switches.  We've been seeing a higher failure rate out of them than we like
 to see.  Basically they just become deaf or non-responsive via their
 Ethernet port...even after a hard reset they are toast.  Anyone else seeing
 similar results from the Digital Logger rack mount 8 port?  They're a great
 value at $200-$300, but not if we keep seeing failures...

 Best,



 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Chuck Profito
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:53 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

 http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html

 This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
 line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have saved a
 trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
 Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
 network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you know
 how long the batteries will last.


 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-Access, Inc.
 www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
 Providing Broadband Internet Access to
 California's Rural Central Valley


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

 --


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Brad Belton
Cameron - Nick,

No kidding, an internal battery will render the unit unreachable even after
a hard factory reset?  Good to know.  I guess I'll order a couple more
replacements, so I can then crack open the ones that have become doorstops
and check them out.

Thanks,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick White
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:13 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

We saw the same issue. Had to replace the internal battery on about ten 
of them after 3-4 years of deployment. Been fine ever since.

On 7/27/2010 5:32 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
 Brad,
 I found out what causes this. There is a small battery inside that
 loses its ability to keep a charge. Once this happens, the thing goes
 back to defaults at every reboot. You can get a replacement at
 batteries plus. It looks like a double a, but is some li variant.

 Cameron

 On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Brad Beltonb...@belwave.com  wrote:

 Butch Evans put together a MikroTik script for us that monitors our APC
 UPSs.  Sends us an email when power is lost along with battery time
 remaining.  Then sends us an email again once power is restored and again
 updates the remaining battery life.  Works well, but unfortunately the
 RB493AH doesn't have a USB port for the standard included APC USB
 cable...for that matter very few multi-interface RouterBoards have USB
 ports.  Most of our HUB sites are x86 based routers, so it hasn't been a
 huge deal for us, but having the ability to monitor the UPS via the
MikroTik
 router is very handy.

 We have many of the Digital Loggers eight port rack mount remote power
 switches.  We've been seeing a higher failure rate out of them than we
like
 to see.  Basically they just become deaf or non-responsive via their
 Ethernet port...even after a hard reset they are toast.  Anyone else
seeing
 similar results from the Digital Logger rack mount 8 port?  They're a
great
 value at $200-$300, but not if we keep seeing failures...

 Best,



 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Chuck Profito
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:53 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

 http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html

 This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for off
 line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have
saved a
 trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
 Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
 network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you
know
 how long the batteries will last.


 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-Access, Inc.
 www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
 Providing Broadband Internet Access to
 California's Rural Central Valley


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
 WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
 cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.

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Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

2010-07-27 Thread Cameron Crum
I stumbled upon it by accident. I'm not sure why I decided to take one
apart, but I saw the little battery in there and thought hmmm. So I got a
new one and it got its memory back...well at least after a reprogramming. I
guess its like a cmos battery. Lose it and you have to go reset all your
settings on the MB. I'm not sure why they haven't gone to flash memory on
these things.

Cameron

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:

 Cameron - Nick,

 No kidding, an internal battery will render the unit unreachable even after
 a hard factory reset?  Good to know.  I guess I'll order a couple more
 replacements, so I can then crack open the ones that have become doorstops
 and check them out.

 Thanks,


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Nick White
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:13 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting

 We saw the same issue. Had to replace the internal battery on about ten
 of them after 3-4 years of deployment. Been fine ever since.

 On 7/27/2010 5:32 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
  Brad,
  I found out what causes this. There is a small battery inside that
  loses its ability to keep a charge. Once this happens, the thing goes
  back to defaults at every reboot. You can get a replacement at
  batteries plus. It looks like a double a, but is some li variant.
 
  Cameron
 
  On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, Brad Beltonb...@belwave.com  wrote:
 
  Butch Evans put together a MikroTik script for us that monitors our APC
  UPSs.  Sends us an email when power is lost along with battery time
  remaining.  Then sends us an email again once power is restored and
 again
  updates the remaining battery life.  Works well, but unfortunately the
  RB493AH doesn't have a USB port for the standard included APC USB
  cable...for that matter very few multi-interface RouterBoards have USB
  ports.  Most of our HUB sites are x86 based routers, so it hasn't been a
  huge deal for us, but having the ability to monitor the UPS via the
 MikroTik
  router is very handy.
 
  We have many of the Digital Loggers eight port rack mount remote power
  switches.  We've been seeing a higher failure rate out of them than we
 like
  to see.  Basically they just become deaf or non-responsive via their
  Ethernet port...even after a hard reset they are toast.  Anyone else
 seeing
  similar results from the Digital Logger rack mount 8 port?  They're a
 great
  value at $200-$300, but not if we keep seeing failures...
 
  Best,
 
 
 
  Brad
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Chuck Profito
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:53 PM
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
 
  http://www.digitalloggers.com/lpc.html
 
  This is the small one, there is a larger one, both have auto ping for
 off
  line rebooting.  We have them on all ap / tower sites.   They a have
 saved a
  trip up the hill many a night! no monthly fee.
  Also, put a old CB-3 into the surge side of a battery backup and your
  network auto ping will know EXACTLY when the power goes down, and you
 know
  how long the batteries will last.
 
 
  Chuck Profito
  209-988-7388
  CV-Access, Inc.
  www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com
  Providing Broadband Internet Access to
  California's Rural Central Valley
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:41 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Off-net rebooting
 
 What are you guys doing for off-net rebooting?  I know someone at
  WISPCON years back had a pager based system.  I'm sure there are
  cellular based systems now, but I'm not sure how the cost compares.
 
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  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
 

 
  
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