RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-03 Thread Mac Dearman
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Halsted Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 5:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans I would disagree with that. Further, I would say that most of the folks using an MT/StarOS system would tell

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-03 Thread George Rogato
soar to $1k each :-) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 5:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans Honestly, Would you buy RB112

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-03 Thread David Sovereen
it. If it doesn't, I use something else. But I always use MT :-) Dave - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-03 Thread George Rogato
it. If it doesn't, I use something else. But I always use MT :-) Dave - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

Device capabilties (was RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans)

2007-04-03 Thread Matt Liotta
I can do things most other wireless manufacturers 'won't (networking features at the AP or CPE). Many manufactures concern themselves with the performance of their radios. Adding additional networking features requires either a bigger CPU or less throughput for the radio. The future of

RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-03 Thread ralph
Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans Then, he asked simply, why don't they just get their gear certified? Mac Dearman wrote: Getting MT or StarOS FCC certified would never make the prices soar to $1k each :-) Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http

RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-03 Thread Mac Dearman
General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans Probably because some of you you guys still buy them- certified or not. Hit them in the pocketbook. Tell them to help you follow the law in the US. Then support vendors who DO. Sure it'll hurt a little

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-03 Thread John Thomas
You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Halsted Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 5:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans I would disagree

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Travis, Are you saying there are Wireless Provider business models in the US that can't handle certified equipment? What do you suppose that says for the industry? Regards, Dawn DiPietro Travis Johnson wrote: And then the issue becomes how much that vendor is going to mark-up the product,

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Chad Halsted
I would disagree with that. Further, I would say that most of the folks using an MT/StarOS system would tell you that price had little or nothing to do with their decision. There are plenty of solutions available that are just as cheap as building your own, perhaps cheaper - all things

RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Charles Wu
] On Behalf Of Chad Halsted Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 5:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans I would disagree with that. Further, I would say that most of the folks using an MT/StarOS system would tell you that price had little

RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Smith, Rick
] On Behalf Of Chad Halsted Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 6:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans I would disagree with that. Further, I would say that most of the folks using an MT/StarOS system would tell you that price had little

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Travis Johnson wrote: Isn't the reason most people are using MT is because of the cost? How many people would buy a RB532 if it was $500? or $1,000? What is everyone's limit? ;) I can't speak for others, but I would assume that most people buy them for the same reason I

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Travis Johnson
I can tell you now, the sales volume would be MUCH less if the price went up... yes, they have great functionality, but a lot of people are buying them because of the price alone. Even if an RB532 went up to only $200, it becomes more cost effective to buy Trango, Canopy, etc. for less money

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Halsted Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 5:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans I would disagree with that. Further, I

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-01 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, John Scrivner wrote: lists out there. Butch is one of my favorite people in this industry. He is not just a good consultant, he is a good person who genuinely cares about the people as much as the work. He is a Thank you for the very kind introduction. And thank you as

RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-01 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007, Mac Dearman wrote: So I wonder what Butch thinks about MikroTik? :-) Mac..you cracker! You gotta KNOW. :-) -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners:

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-01 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007, Doug Ratcliffe wrote: As far as Mikrotik goes, if any one/more/all MT vendor(s) in this country paid an FCC lab to certify the boards/radios (can't the radios/antennas can be modular certified by Ubiquiti/Senao?), could that work as a blanket certification that MT could

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-01 Thread Travis Johnson
And then the issue becomes how much that vendor is going to mark-up the product, in addition to the FCC cert costs for all their time, efforts, etc. Isn't the reason most people are using MT is because of the cost? How many people would buy a RB532 if it was $500? or $1,000? What is

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-01 Thread Jack Unger
As Butch states (in general) each complete system needs to be individually certified however, the lab that I work with has advised that: IF the vendor (or WISP) that obtains the original certification Grant chooses to make their complete system specifications public rather than asking the FCC

RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-03-31 Thread Mac Dearman
So I wonder what Butch thinks about MikroTik? :-) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 4:00 PM To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-03-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Coolness! Welcome aboard Butch! marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans I am sure many of you know a friend

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-03-31 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
individual unit/vendor need an FCC certification? - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans Coolness! Welcome

[WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-03-30 Thread John Scrivner
I am sure many of you know a friend of mine, Butch Evans, who has been here helping for as long as I can remember on all the WISP lists out there. Butch is one of my favorite people in this industry. He is not just a good consultant, he is a good person who genuinely cares about the people as